Everyday Classic

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//j17

4,547 posts

225 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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NiceCupOfTea said:
  • When it was my only car I was doing about 13k a year. Now I'm only doing 4-6k and bizarrely it's become less reliable frown
Nothing bizzar about that - cars are made to be used, not sat around. Use it every day and you start to spot minor issues before they become major ones. Leave it sat for 6 months and that failing hose is ready to pop when you turn the key, that stone chip is a rust patch and your fuel a sticky mass just waiting to gum something up.


dinkel

27,025 posts

260 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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VetteG said:
dinkel said:
BTW: Hi Graeme wavey
Hi Albert, be in touch soon about next year, but in the mean time how do you fancy being my passenger on http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Drop me a note.

G
Now that is a tempting invitation G . . . I'll dicuss diaries with the missus.

chrisr29

1,256 posts

199 months

Monday 8th December 2008
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Currently using a 1989 Merc 190 2.5 cossy. Does about 25 to gal average. Brilliant winter car - great heater, heated mirrors, good lights, brilliant head light washers to get rid of the perpetual film of winter road grime. RWD fun in the slippery conditions. Solid and reliable. Service items as cheap as chips from German and Swedish etc. Actually, it's almost too good to be considered a 'classic'!

It's also a bit scruffy so I don't give a stuff about it being damaged ;o)

Monza Phil

138 posts

226 months

Tuesday 9th December 2008
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In fact, I've never run a modern as a daily...... for more than 3 months. Modern cars suck arse.

jith

2,752 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th December 2008
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Marquis_Rex said:
jith said:
Marquis_Rex said:
I want to hear from people who use their classic as an every day car/daily driver.
What do you drive?
What kind of engine?
What kind of fuel economy do you get?
What's the yearly mileage in said classic?
Do you commute to work in said car- if so how far?
Who looks after the car- you-or someone else?
What do you do about rust?
Is rust even a problem?

just interested mainly, that who in the face of new cheap cars all over is eccentric enough to use an old car as every day transport....
Hello Rup, how the hell are you?

I did use this every day, and it is surprisingly economical for a 5 litre, although it's running KE-Jet which explains the economy.

Totally and utterly reliable and bloody quick for such a big car, but so refined as well.

Do you still have your 323 and did you ever get it to run with port throttles?



Hi mate, how have you been?
Looks like I'm in the USA now and BTW me and Jonna_Rex broke up. She never did get that 2002 BMW and my E21 is getting totally rebuilt/refurbished at a place in Holland.
I havent had time to pursue the 3.1 litre M20 project with mechanical injection. I had some adaptors made with mate S50 M3 port thorttles to the 2 valve M20 cylinder head and I have a Porsche 2.4 S mechnical Bosch pump and was trying to aquire a Mercedes S class one also as it has bigger diameter distributor pistons. I've also well versed myself with rocker arm cam profile design- with an eye to lubrication and wear also, but havent had time to exercise this. But since buying and using my Dodge as an every day car, I've been consumed by that. I intend that my BMW and Porsche join me sometime in the future.
BTW you're totally right- American women are nuts! silly

That Mercedes is very nice lick
Did you know that the R107 560 SL type are much cheaper and usually always in far better condition here than over there or Germany? I'm realising how rusty my BMW was, by some of the cars here. Series 1 XJ6 Jags with no rust at all, incredible.
Unfortunately, due to project/work changes, I'll most likely be moving up north to snowy country and will have to get some kind of truck as an every day car frown
Sorry to hear about you and your lady. I am in the MB owner's club; if you like I'll see if anyone has a pump from an old 280SE, that's the one with the larger pistons.

I used to do a lot of muscle cars for the lads in the Polaris base when it was based in Dunoon, and some of these were truly mental, but always fun. It's great that you made it to the States. My oldest son is moving to Chicago in January. You two should meet up. He trained with me and is a real petrolhead and worked with Audi for several years. He has a nice old 350 SL and an M5 Alpina. Drop me an e mail and I'll put you in touch with him.

All the best.

DickyC

50,201 posts

200 months

Friday 12th December 2008
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Classic? A future classic? You decide. My daily car is a 1995 Audi RS2. To the untrained eye, it's an Audi 80 estate, but...

It does everything, including making guys driving scary fast moderns - and who should know better - work very hard to get away from it.

There aren't enough to go round, but if you have the opportunity to have one, jump at it. It's the first car I've owned for a long time that I take out for a drive just for the pleasure of driving it.

For those who don't know, the RS2 was the grandad of the Audi RS range, built by Porsche in a unique tie-up between the two companies. Around 3,000 were built in '94 and '95 including 182 RHD UK spec cars of which 129 survive.

Porsche's work, on Audis already competent S2 Quattro Avant (Audi-speak for estate car), included an engine upgraded to 315 bhp, brakes from the 968 Club Sport, wheels and mirrors from the 911 of the time, suspension lowered and stiffened, air con, Recaro electric seats and numerous detail changes to trim.

Hanging-on-grimly wind-in-the-hair car-in-the-hedge classic motoring it isn't. But it is a classic, I reckon.

The figures? It's limited to 165mph and will do 0-60 in 4.9. It's hilarious.

NiceCupOfTea

25,298 posts

253 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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Definately a modern classic Dicky - I love them in Nogaro(?) blue especially.

Marquis_Rex

Original Poster:

7,377 posts

241 months

Saturday 13th December 2008
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jith said:
Marquis_Rex said:
jith said:
Marquis_Rex said:
I want to hear from people who use their classic as an every day car/daily driver.
What do you drive?
What kind of engine?
What kind of fuel economy do you get?
What's the yearly mileage in said classic?
Do you commute to work in said car- if so how far?
Who looks after the car- you-or someone else?
What do you do about rust?
Is rust even a problem?

just interested mainly, that who in the face of new cheap cars all over is eccentric enough to use an old car as every day transport....
Hello Rup, how the hell are you?

I did use this every day, and it is surprisingly economical for a 5 litre, although it's running KE-Jet which explains the economy.

Totally and utterly reliable and bloody quick for such a big car, but so refined as well.

Do you still have your 323 and did you ever get it to run with port throttles?



Hi mate, how have you been?
Looks like I'm in the USA now and BTW me and Jonna_Rex broke up. She never did get that 2002 BMW and my E21 is getting totally rebuilt/refurbished at a place in Holland.
I havent had time to pursue the 3.1 litre M20 project with mechanical injection. I had some adaptors made with mate S50 M3 port thorttles to the 2 valve M20 cylinder head and I have a Porsche 2.4 S mechnical Bosch pump and was trying to aquire a Mercedes S class one also as it has bigger diameter distributor pistons. I've also well versed myself with rocker arm cam profile design- with an eye to lubrication and wear also, but havent had time to exercise this. But since buying and using my Dodge as an every day car, I've been consumed by that. I intend that my BMW and Porsche join me sometime in the future.
BTW you're totally right- American women are nuts! silly

That Mercedes is very nice lick
Did you know that the R107 560 SL type are much cheaper and usually always in far better condition here than over there or Germany? I'm realising how rusty my BMW was, by some of the cars here. Series 1 XJ6 Jags with no rust at all, incredible.
Unfortunately, due to project/work changes, I'll most likely be moving up north to snowy country and will have to get some kind of truck as an every day car frown
Sorry to hear about you and your lady. I am in the MB owner's club; if you like I'll see if anyone has a pump from an old 280SE, that's the one with the larger pistons.

I used to do a lot of muscle cars for the lads in the Polaris base when it was based in Dunoon, and some of these were truly mental, but always fun. It's great that you made it to the States. My oldest son is moving to Chicago in January. You two should meet up. He trained with me and is a real petrolhead and worked with Audi for several years. He has a nice old 350 SL and an M5 Alpina. Drop me an e mail and I'll put you in touch with him.

All the best.
Hi Jith!
I'll let you know when (if) I start up in Melrose park in Chicago and if its not Michigan.
If you could look for a 280 SL pump please let me know-although the E21 project is on more of a back burner right now. I fly into Edinburgh this coming Wednesday and I'll be driving into Mainland Europe to see how the progress on the E21 Body goes.

DBSV8

5,958 posts

240 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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daily drive in in France last year, good for picking up the croissants from the local Boulangerie




NiceCupOfTea

25,298 posts

253 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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That's lovely.

SB - Nigel

7,898 posts

236 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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what's the yellow sticker on the windscreen?

NiceCupOfTea

25,298 posts

253 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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SB - Nigel said:
what's the yellow sticker on the windscreen?
Looks like an MU one!



(this one's been doctored wink)

SB - Nigel

7,898 posts

236 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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No it's not that

NiceCupOfTea

25,298 posts

253 months

Sunday 14th December 2008
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SB - Nigel said:
No it's not that
You've got better eyesight than me!

DBSV8

5,958 posts

240 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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SB - Nigel said:
what's the yellow sticker on the windscreen?
its the club Lotus 50th Anniversary sticker


http://www.club-lotus.co.uk/

SB - Nigel

7,898 posts

236 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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Thank you, I thought it might be something else as you were in France

NCoT you shouldn't be driving if your eyes are worse than mine as my optician tells me I shouldn't be driving without my glasses but as I tell him they're too expensive to wear and risk them getting damaged smile

3Dom

345 posts

201 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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What do you drive? 1972 Fiat 500R





What kind of engine?
Upgraded from 499cc to 650cc (from a Fiat 126) with Larger side-draft carb, fast road cam, sports exhaust, electronic ignition. All mods for better usability and reliability.

What kind of fuel economy do you get?
Estimated 45mpg

What's the yearly mileage in said classic?
About 10k

Do you commute to work in said car- if so how far?
Yes, 18 mile round trip (Hammersmith to Teddington)

Who looks after the car- you-or someone else?
I look after it's mechanicals. The bodywork doesn't get looked after, and is crying out for a back to metal resto + respray.

What do you do about rust?
Try to use Waxoyl to prevent it as much as possible (The floor is solid), but am ultimately losing that battle.

Is rust even a problem?
Yes, under the doors, the wheel arches, sills etc. Not a massive problem. I am saving up for the one day where I will get the whole thing sorted and would love to have it galvanised.

shoestring7

6,139 posts

248 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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pie-eater said:
1884 W123 Merc 230E - pics in seperate thread.
2299cc fuel injected 4 cyl, petrol
20 - 35mpg
5k
Use it for pleasure only
I do some stuff - my mechanic mate does the rest
It's rust-free, and kept under cover.
Rust can be an issue but not as yet;)
1884??!

I run a Golf mk3 vr6 as a daily driver along with a modern Porsche. I only dare to mention here as recently Classic & Sports Car magazine named it a future classic to watch, and it is insured on a classic policy!

I get 30-35mpg. I don't do much town driving, mostly A road and suburban and only 800 miles/month. I do a bit of commuting but mostly pleasure use.

Its no great handler with a big lump of a 2.8l engine in the nose, although a Bilstein suspension kit made a huge difference. The big narrow angle 6 is smooth, and picks up well from 3500rpm onwards. It can usually surprises other road users with its pace as it has no body kit or wings. The VW crew give it a respectful nod though.

Its quite civilsed inside with a/c and leather and the original VW/Sony stereo. The dirving position is poor, too high from a wheel that doesn't adjust for reach.

Rust isn't a problem, although a wheel arch is showing signs.

SS7

SB - Nigel

7,898 posts

236 months

Monday 15th December 2008
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3Dom said:
What do you drive? 1972 Fiat 500R

[IMG]http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f341/screwingforchastity/IMG_1675.jpg/[IMG]
Good man, sweet car thumbup

And nice car just behind it

Nick_F

10,154 posts

248 months

Tuesday 16th December 2008
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DickyC said:
Classic? A future classic? You decide. My daily car is a 1995 Audi RS2. To the untrained eye, it's an Audi 80 estate, but...

It does everything, including making guys driving scary fast moderns - and who should know better - work very hard to get away from it.

There aren't enough to go round, but if you have the opportunity to have one, jump at it. It's the first car I've owned for a long time that I take out for a drive just for the pleasure of driving it.

For those who don't know, the RS2 was the grandad of the Audi RS range, built by Porsche in a unique tie-up between the two companies. Around 3,000 were built in '94 and '95 including 182 RHD UK spec cars of which 129 survive.

Porsche's work, on Audis already competent S2 Quattro Avant (Audi-speak for estate car), included an engine upgraded to 315 bhp, brakes from the 968 Club Sport, wheels and mirrors from the 911 of the time, suspension lowered and stiffened, air con, Recaro electric seats and numerous detail changes to trim.

Hanging-on-grimly wind-in-the-hair car-in-the-hedge classic motoring it isn't. But it is a classic, I reckon.

The figures? It's limited to 165mph and will do 0-60 in 4.9. It's hilarious.
I saw a nice dark (Ragussa?) green RS2 in Bruton this morning; smashing cars. I used to run an S2 Avant in a slightly less subtle shade:





That was about seven years old when I sold it, so not really a 'classic' at that stage, anyway.