Most expensive E-Types ??
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Interesting comment. Commemoratives (as they are known) appear on the market from time to time and fetch around £125,000 as a general rule. The part about being numbered I don't get - every car has a chassis number. Yes, there were 50 made, 49 black and one green, and yes they had the option of the commemorative plaque on the dashboard but it was really only a ploy to get rid of the last cars. If you remember it was during the petrol crisis and no Jaguar dealer could give a V12 away at the time. Frankly, I really can't see why they fetch so much money.
Now, if you want to talk about the first cars, like 9600 HP or 77RW, then surely there is the real value - the very first E types made, not a cynical marketing exercise. I spent years trying to buy Lofty England's demonstrator, chassis 004 roadster but in the end it was sold to CMC as a wreck for about £65,000 a few years back. I missed buying chassis 21 at auction at the beginning of the 90's after the crash and it went for £22,000 with over £60,000 of restoration by Southern Classics. Chassis 22 has been in bits for 25 years now and he won't sell. Ah well, I guess I am stuck with my flat floor 152 but I've always wanted an outside locker. Now my friend has chasis 002 fixed head, one of the four RHD outside locker coupés made. That would sell much dearer in my book.
Now, if you want to talk about the first cars, like 9600 HP or 77RW, then surely there is the real value - the very first E types made, not a cynical marketing exercise. I spent years trying to buy Lofty England's demonstrator, chassis 004 roadster but in the end it was sold to CMC as a wreck for about £65,000 a few years back. I missed buying chassis 21 at auction at the beginning of the 90's after the crash and it went for £22,000 with over £60,000 of restoration by Southern Classics. Chassis 22 has been in bits for 25 years now and he won't sell. Ah well, I guess I am stuck with my flat floor 152 but I've always wanted an outside locker. Now my friend has chasis 002 fixed head, one of the four RHD outside locker coupés made. That would sell much dearer in my book.
Edited by lowdrag on Wednesday 20th May 21:00
It's the same case with most end of the line cars over the years....always struggled to get them gone, but that was then.
Always the first and last of any model that becomes the most sought after.
Outside catch and flat floors are becoming sought after almost over night. Finally they are being recognised for the great car they are and originalatity counts for alot even if it needs a full resto
Always the first and last of any model that becomes the most sought after.
Outside catch and flat floors are becoming sought after almost over night. Finally they are being recognised for the great car they are and originalatity counts for alot even if it needs a full resto
Apologies for reviving an old thread but it seemed relevant.
Can someone give me an idea of how much an Eagle E-Type or a something similar from JD Classics cost ? Looking at the Eagle website it seems that they have a second hand Series 1 Roadster for £225,000 ? Is that a premium because of the waiting list or is that what they really cost ? Certainly looking at old press coverage it seems like they used to cost £100,000 about five years ago so even taking into account that a suitable car for Eagle to start with is going to costs £50k today (taking an example from their website) it seems like the Eagle upgrade has got an awful lot more expensive ?
Can someone give me an idea of how much an Eagle E-Type or a something similar from JD Classics cost ? Looking at the Eagle website it seems that they have a second hand Series 1 Roadster for £225,000 ? Is that a premium because of the waiting list or is that what they really cost ? Certainly looking at old press coverage it seems like they used to cost £100,000 about five years ago so even taking into account that a suitable car for Eagle to start with is going to costs £50k today (taking an example from their website) it seems like the Eagle upgrade has got an awful lot more expensive ?
I think that is a "how long is a piece of string" question.
My impression is that you go to Eagle and discuss your requirements and they then produce a car to meet what ever exacting standards you require. I imaging JD Classics are the same. There was an article in Octane a couple of months ago about a Mk2 which JD's had built for someone. The final bill was astronomical but most of the cost was in effectively funding R&D. If you want something they've done before then presumably the price is much lower. If you want something totally original (as in a one off just for you and not original as in how it left the factory) then I guess you get to pay for it.
If you look back through this group then I remember at least one other poster having been in discussion with Eagle about having a car built.
My impression is that you go to Eagle and discuss your requirements and they then produce a car to meet what ever exacting standards you require. I imaging JD Classics are the same. There was an article in Octane a couple of months ago about a Mk2 which JD's had built for someone. The final bill was astronomical but most of the cost was in effectively funding R&D. If you want something they've done before then presumably the price is much lower. If you want something totally original (as in a one off just for you and not original as in how it left the factory) then I guess you get to pay for it.
If you look back through this group then I remember at least one other poster having been in discussion with Eagle about having a car built.
Hell, you can't compare chalk and cheese dear fellow! If it's the firstcar you are looking at, the racing lightweight, it has a full alloy block engine - £37,000 from Crosthwaite and Gardner to you.
It has triple Webers but if they are the old DCO3 carbs add another £7,000 or a measly £1,000 if DCOE45s.
It has an alloy body shell - add another £30,000 say (frankly I don't know but damned expensive). An alloy bonnet is about £7,000 IIRC from RS Panels.
Alloy rad, correct manifolds which go inside the A frames, full FIA papers and a hell of a history. It's like comparing a DB4 standard car with a DB4 Zagato. If you talk to Henry Pearman he'll offer you what you want - at a price though but you pay for what you get. Henry makes the best E-types in the world. He always changes the A frames fully injected so they can never rust from the inside for example. He has some really beautiful cars around £135,000 but if you join the clubs you'll find a perfectly usable roadster in damned good condition around £35,00 to £50,000 depending on the model and the quality of rebuild. But always get an expert to look at one if you don't know them yourselves - bad ones which look good can cost a fortune to put right.
It has triple Webers but if they are the old DCO3 carbs add another £7,000 or a measly £1,000 if DCOE45s.
It has an alloy body shell - add another £30,000 say (frankly I don't know but damned expensive). An alloy bonnet is about £7,000 IIRC from RS Panels.
Alloy rad, correct manifolds which go inside the A frames, full FIA papers and a hell of a history. It's like comparing a DB4 standard car with a DB4 Zagato. If you talk to Henry Pearman he'll offer you what you want - at a price though but you pay for what you get. Henry makes the best E-types in the world. He always changes the A frames fully injected so they can never rust from the inside for example. He has some really beautiful cars around £135,000 but if you join the clubs you'll find a perfectly usable roadster in damned good condition around £35,00 to £50,000 depending on the model and the quality of rebuild. But always get an expert to look at one if you don't know them yourselves - bad ones which look good can cost a fortune to put right.
It wasn't the racing lightweight I was referring to, it was this one
http://www.eaglegb.com/etypes/50-1965-e-type-serie...
That seems to be the only one they have that has actually had the Eagle treatment? I know it's not comparing apples with apples but it's considerably more than this car
http://www.eaglegb.com/etypes/48-1965-e-type-serie...
which obviously looks to be in fabulous condition. So it seems like you're paying £100k more than a car that is in already very good condition. So that's my point really whilst you are obviously getting an incredible product with an Eagle E type it seems like the cost of a car being fully refurbished to their standards has maybe doubled in the last 5 years? Excluding the cost of the "donor car" ?
http://www.eaglegb.com/etypes/50-1965-e-type-serie...
That seems to be the only one they have that has actually had the Eagle treatment? I know it's not comparing apples with apples but it's considerably more than this car
http://www.eaglegb.com/etypes/48-1965-e-type-serie...
which obviously looks to be in fabulous condition. So it seems like you're paying £100k more than a car that is in already very good condition. So that's my point really whilst you are obviously getting an incredible product with an Eagle E type it seems like the cost of a car being fully refurbished to their standards has maybe doubled in the last 5 years? Excluding the cost of the "donor car" ?
In the Januaryy edition of the Jaguar Drivers Club magazine there is an Eagle modified E-type for sale, albeit LHD, at £62,000. 1967, series 1.5, and 10,000 miles since it was rebuilt and it's been advertised for several months without being sold. Like I said, join the clubs and look for a car therein. You'll find what you want if you look around. Drop me an email and willingly (I'm back in the UK on Wednesday for a week) I am sure I can find you a superb E-type a damned sight cheaper than these prices. You'll owe me a beer, but you'll save a lot of money. Not long back one of the concours winning cars was sold at £60,000 but there again I know of a very early car in poor condition that was sold for £75,000 and the owner has spent over £100,000 to make it absolutely concours to win championships. It will never be worth the money he's put in it but such cars do come up for sale from time to time, like the concours car that won championships (quite a few in fact) and was sold at £60,000. They exist, but it takes time to find a really good one rather than rush in. But, if you want the best, then Henry Pearman never sells a duff car.
Thanks very much for the offer Lowdrag. I am actually just starting to look as I am thinking about buying during the course of the next year or so, I live in London at the moment and don't have anywhere to keep the car but we're moving out of town in the next few months so will a have the space to keep a car then.
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