A 'period' classics pictures thread (Mk III)

A 'period' classics pictures thread (Mk III)

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moffspeed

2,718 posts

209 months

Monday 18th April 2022
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dandarez said:
DickyC said:
moffspeed said:
Henniker Mews ??
Ten points.

IIRC developers had a go at renaming it Vantage Place or somesuch, but I can't find any reference to it.
Aston started there (Henniker Mews) in 1913 if I have my yrs right.

11 yrs earlier and another famous Brit roaming the back roads of a south coast town.

'Smile love, we're on camera.'

Looks like a Napier L48 to me - but surely 1904 (or more likely 1905) at the earliest - 15 litres and 6 cylinders, so 2.5 Litres per pot, serious (and notably first 100mph) British road car.

The horseshoe shaped bracket at the front is a mounting for one of the massive headlights.

South Coast might make you think Brighton - and as the Napier would have been a very rare sight on British roads in 1905 could this be Clifford Earp on his way to compete (and win) in the inaugural Brighton Speed Trials that year. Nice idea, but contemporary photos on Madeira Drive show Earp in a stripped down L48 with an "A" prefix number plate.



Edited by moffspeed on Monday 18th April 14:27

Turbobanana

6,361 posts

203 months

Monday 18th April 2022
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Turbobanana said:
dandarez said:
...a lot of stuff...
OK, I'm all for a bit of off-topic banter, but this is too much dandarez.
I bet you're a hoot at parties.
Alright Charles, calm down. I probably should have added that it was the political bit I don't like. Politics don't mix with anything as far as I am concerned: cars, sport, entertainment, you name it. But that's just my view and I didn't articulate it well.

I too love all the stories on here, particularly from before my time (born 1968, got into cars 1969 - my first word was "car").

And I am a hoot at parties, mainly because I try to spend as much time as possible with children - both mine and my friends'. They're far more entertaining than the grown ups.

RichB

51,821 posts

286 months

Monday 18th April 2022
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moffspeed said:
dandarez said:
DickyC said:
moffspeed said:
Henniker Mews ??
Ten points.
IIRC developers had a go at renaming it Vantage Place or somesuch, but I can't find any reference to it.
Aston started there (Henniker Mews) in 1913 if I have my yrs right. 11 yrs earlier and another famous Brit roaming the back roads of a south coast town. 'Smile love, we're on camera.'
Looks like a Napier L48 to me - but surely 1904 (or more likely 1905) at the earliest - 15 litres and 6 cylinders, so 2.5 Litres per pot, serious (and notably first 100mph) British road car. The horseshoe shaped bracket at the front is a mounting for one of the massive headlights.

South Coast might make you think Brighton - and as the Napier would have been a very rare sight on British roads in 1905 could this be Clifford Earp on his way to compete (and win) in the inaugural Brighton Speed Trials that year. Nice idea, but contemporary photos on Madeira Drive show Earp in a stripped down L48 with an "A" prefix number plate.
But why is there a chap's head sticking out of the bonnet? eek

DickyC

50,000 posts

200 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Prototype Vantage 30 years ago arriving at a lecture about its development. Interesting registration number.

Mr lestat

4,318 posts

192 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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DickyC said:


Prototype Vantage 30 years ago arriving at a lecture about its development. Interesting registration number.
The plate is from The Living Daylights V8 also seen in latest film

Isn’t that a Virage though ? Or Virage body anyway ?

DickyC

50,000 posts

200 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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Mr lestat said:
DickyC said:


Prototype Vantage 30 years ago arriving at a lecture about its development. Interesting registration number.
The plate is from The Living Daylights V8 also seen in latest film

Isn’t that a Virage though ? Or Virage body anyway ?
The production cars shared little with the Virage IIRC but that was where the protypes started.

DickyC

50,000 posts

200 months

Tuesday 19th April 2022
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DickyC said:
The production cars shared little with the Virage IIRC but that was where the protypes started.
In fact, a regular Vantage buyer came to the lecture to grill the AML engineer giving the talk about the car being so different from the standard car he should have his deposit back.

dandarez

13,323 posts

285 months

Monday 25th April 2022
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Blimey this thread has been quiet for a few days...

moffspeed said:
dandarez said:
DickyC said:
moffspeed said:
Henniker Mews ??
Ten points.

IIRC developers had a go at renaming it Vantage Place or somesuch, but I can't find any reference to it.
Aston started there (Henniker Mews) in 1913 if I have my yrs right.

11 yrs earlier and another famous Brit roaming the back roads of a south coast town.

'Smile love, we're on camera.'

Looks like a Napier L48 to me - but surely 1904 (or more likely 1905) at the earliest - 15 litres and 6 cylinders, so 2.5 Litres per pot, serious (and notably first 100mph) British road car.

The horseshoe shaped bracket at the front is a mounting for one of the massive headlights.

South Coast might make you think Brighton - and as the Napier would have been a very rare sight on British roads in 1905 could this be Clifford Earp on his way to compete (and win) in the inaugural Brighton Speed Trials that year. Nice idea, but contemporary photos on Madeira Drive show Earp in a stripped down L48 with an "A" prefix number plate.
Sorry for gap in replying, too much to do.

Yeah, it's a L48 so you're right it's too early for 1902 but I jumped to earlier conclusion as 'Bexhill' is scribbled on the photo reverse.
Don't think clean shaven guy at the wheel in the photo is Earp. Didn't his L48 at the first Brighton trials in 1905 have wires if I recall?

I still think that's where it is (Bexhill) but probably like you say somewhere between 1904-07.
Racing on the seafront at Bexhill began that year 1902 continuing through to 1907, the year of course when Brooklands first opened and a certain S F Edge broke the 24 hr distance record in his Napier.

Interestingly, and not so well known, his sometime riding mechanic and cousin, Cecil Edge, was at Bexhill in 1907 (Aug 17th to be precise) inspecting (along with many others keen to be in the picture!) the remains of his crashed 24hp Napier which had gone over the the 'edge' of Galley Hill.



It doesn’t say so on the top left hand but Napier Heritage Trust actually agreed with me that they too think it is Cecil (wearing cap, far right).



P5BNij

15,875 posts

108 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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A nice contrast between the early Corvair and the Cadillac in this '60s shot...


CharlesdeGaulle

26,528 posts

182 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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P5BNij said:
A nice contrast between the early Corvair and the Cadillac in this '60s shot...

I really hope that leather shoes, mid-calf-length socks and shorts never comes back into fashion.

bigothunter

11,446 posts

62 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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P5BNij said:
A nice contrast between the early Corvair and the Cadillac in this '60s shot...
Oops eek


daveenty

2,359 posts

212 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
I really hope that leather shoes, mid-calf-length socks and shorts never comes back into fashion.
What do you mean "comes back"? confused

Turbobanana

6,361 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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What the heck is that?

nicanary

9,833 posts

148 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Turbobanana said:


What the heck is that?
Position of the spare wheel on offside rear suggests a Willys Jeep, with homebuilt enclosed body.

P5BNij

15,875 posts

108 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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bigothunter said:
P5BNij said:
A nice contrast between the early Corvair and the Cadillac in this '60s shot...
Oops eek

Nadar's nadir, so to speak?


(runs off to find out what nadir actually means wink)

littleredrooster

5,557 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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daveenty said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
I really hope that leather shoes, mid-calf-length socks and shorts never comes back into fashion.
What do you mean "comes back"? confused
Indeed - with a slightly more colourful polo shirt, that could have been me in France last year... frown

bigothunter

11,446 posts

62 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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P5BNij said:
bigothunter said:
P5BNij said:
A nice contrast between the early Corvair and the Cadillac in this '60s shot...
Oops eek

Nadar's nadir, so to speak?


(runs off to find out what nadir actually means wink)
Instant oversteer until the rear swing axle was deleted in 1965 hehe

P5BNij

15,875 posts

108 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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bigothunter said:
P5BNij said:
bigothunter said:
P5BNij said:
A nice contrast between the early Corvair and the Cadillac in this '60s shot...
Oops eek

Nadar's nadir, so to speak?


(runs off to find out what nadir actually means wink)
Instant oversteer until the rear swing axle was deleted in 1965 hehe
I don't know what the survival rate is for those early Corvairs but I'm guessing any still around have had some rear ends mods at some point!

I like the looks of the early ones but prefer the '65 onwards styling...








Trip

52 posts

92 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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P5BNij said:
Nadar's nadir, so to speak?


(runs off to find out what nadir actually means wink)
The opposite of zenith. smile

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

30,282 posts

237 months

Tuesday 26th April 2022
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Trip said:
The opposite of zenith. smile
I thought that was Stromberg scratchchin