A 'period' classics pictures thread (Mk III)
Discussion
dandarez said:
DickyC said:
moffspeed said:
Henniker Mews ??
Ten points. IIRC developers had a go at renaming it Vantage Place or somesuch, but I can't find any reference to it.
11 yrs earlier and another famous Brit roaming the back roads of a south coast town.
'Smile love, we're on camera.'
The horseshoe shaped bracket at the front is a mounting for one of the massive headlights.
South Coast might make you think Brighton - and as the Napier would have been a very rare sight on British roads in 1905 could this be Clifford Earp on his way to compete (and win) in the inaugural Brighton Speed Trials that year. Nice idea, but contemporary photos on Madeira Drive show Earp in a stripped down L48 with an "A" prefix number plate.
Edited by moffspeed on Monday 18th April 14:27
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Turbobanana said:
dandarez said:
...a lot of stuff...
OK, I'm all for a bit of off-topic banter, but this is too much dandarez.I too love all the stories on here, particularly from before my time (born 1968, got into cars 1969 - my first word was "car").
And I am a hoot at parties, mainly because I try to spend as much time as possible with children - both mine and my friends'. They're far more entertaining than the grown ups.
moffspeed said:
dandarez said:
DickyC said:
moffspeed said:
Henniker Mews ??
Ten points. IIRC developers had a go at renaming it Vantage Place or somesuch, but I can't find any reference to it.
South Coast might make you think Brighton - and as the Napier would have been a very rare sight on British roads in 1905 could this be Clifford Earp on his way to compete (and win) in the inaugural Brighton Speed Trials that year. Nice idea, but contemporary photos on Madeira Drive show Earp in a stripped down L48 with an "A" prefix number plate.
Mr lestat said:
DickyC said:
Prototype Vantage 30 years ago arriving at a lecture about its development. Interesting registration number.
Isn’t that a Virage though ? Or Virage body anyway ?
DickyC said:
The production cars shared little with the Virage IIRC but that was where the protypes started.
In fact, a regular Vantage buyer came to the lecture to grill the AML engineer giving the talk about the car being so different from the standard car he should have his deposit back.Blimey this thread has been quiet for a few days...
IIRC developers had a go at renaming it Vantage Place or somesuch, but I can't find any reference to it.Aston started there (Henniker Mews) in 1913 if I have my yrs right.
11 yrs earlier and another famous Brit roaming the back roads of a south coast town.
'Smile love, we're on camera.'
Looks like a Napier L48 to me - but surely 1904 (or more likely 1905) at the earliest - 15 litres and 6 cylinders, so 2.5 Litres per pot, serious (and notably first 100mph) British road car.
The horseshoe shaped bracket at the front is a mounting for one of the massive headlights.
South Coast might make you think Brighton - and as the Napier would have been a very rare sight on British roads in 1905 could this be Clifford Earp on his way to compete (and win) in the inaugural Brighton Speed Trials that year. Nice idea, but contemporary photos on Madeira Drive show Earp in a stripped down L48 with an "A" prefix number plate.Sorry for gap in replying, too much to do.
Yeah, it's a L48 so you're right it's too early for 1902 but I jumped to earlier conclusion as 'Bexhill' is scribbled on the photo reverse.
Don't think clean shaven guy at the wheel in the photo is Earp. Didn't his L48 at the first Brighton trials in 1905 have wires if I recall?
I still think that's where it is (Bexhill) but probably like you say somewhere between 1904-07.
Racing on the seafront at Bexhill began that year 1902 continuing through to 1907, the year of course when Brooklands first opened and a certain S F Edge broke the 24 hr distance record in his Napier.
Interestingly, and not so well known, his sometime riding mechanic and cousin, Cecil Edge, was at Bexhill in 1907 (Aug 17th to be precise) inspecting (along with many others keen to be in the picture!) the remains of his crashed 24hp Napier which had gone over the the 'edge' of Galley Hill.
It doesn’t say so on the top left hand but Napier Heritage Trust actually agreed with me that they too think it is Cecil (wearing cap, far right).
moffspeed said:
dandarez said:
DickyC said:
moffspeed said:
Henniker Mews ??
Ten points. IIRC developers had a go at renaming it Vantage Place or somesuch, but I can't find any reference to it.
11 yrs earlier and another famous Brit roaming the back roads of a south coast town.
'Smile love, we're on camera.'
The horseshoe shaped bracket at the front is a mounting for one of the massive headlights.
South Coast might make you think Brighton - and as the Napier would have been a very rare sight on British roads in 1905 could this be Clifford Earp on his way to compete (and win) in the inaugural Brighton Speed Trials that year. Nice idea, but contemporary photos on Madeira Drive show Earp in a stripped down L48 with an "A" prefix number plate.
Yeah, it's a L48 so you're right it's too early for 1902 but I jumped to earlier conclusion as 'Bexhill' is scribbled on the photo reverse.
Don't think clean shaven guy at the wheel in the photo is Earp. Didn't his L48 at the first Brighton trials in 1905 have wires if I recall?
I still think that's where it is (Bexhill) but probably like you say somewhere between 1904-07.
Racing on the seafront at Bexhill began that year 1902 continuing through to 1907, the year of course when Brooklands first opened and a certain S F Edge broke the 24 hr distance record in his Napier.
Interestingly, and not so well known, his sometime riding mechanic and cousin, Cecil Edge, was at Bexhill in 1907 (Aug 17th to be precise) inspecting (along with many others keen to be in the picture!) the remains of his crashed 24hp Napier which had gone over the the 'edge' of Galley Hill.
It doesn’t say so on the top left hand but Napier Heritage Trust actually agreed with me that they too think it is Cecil (wearing cap, far right).
bigothunter said:
P5BNij said:
Instant oversteer until the rear swing axle was deleted in 1965 I like the looks of the early ones but prefer the '65 onwards styling...
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