The Range Rover Classic thread

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I've kept mine on air, it's a great system and pretty simple to fix/maintain. These days you can build a lead and use the free RSWSolutions EAS software to do pretty much all things EAS related including altering ride heights and clearing faults. I've got a cheap windows 10 tablet with the software for EAS, Hotwire EFI and the LPG kit along with a copy of RAVE. More use than a set of spanners these days!

Most faults are caused by lack of maintenance or ignoring leaks. Bags need replacing every 10 years or so and the valve block will eventually need a service, you can buy a kit for this.

How much of the original EAS system remains?

[MrMoonyMan]

DonkeyApple said:

MrMoonyMan said:

DonkeyApple said:

I bought the Halfords ones and spent five minutes in the car park faffing about transplanting the pins and lo they fit.

The ones I bought had the same holes stamped so the pins could be transplanted.

Ah, I see. Okay, will head back and have another go then.

Many thanks for the quick reply!

I just fitted a new set today. I bought the SP18's that the halford guide said were correct. They aren't and are in fact a different design to the ones I bought from Halfords last year but they still fit. You just pop out the plastic fitting to leave the metal frame and then I put the locating pin through the smaller of the two sets of holes and then into the fitting in the wiper arm.

Thank you for the detailed description there DA. As it turned out we didn't take the RR as the planned car was finished in time - by a matter of hours!

When I return to England I shall head to Halfords and detail the fitting of them in case it helps anyone else out.

Merry Christmas

[ClaphamGT3]

Genuinely don't know whether this is potentially rather splendid or absolutely gash. Would love to know a little more about its provenance.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/range-rover-1975-LWB-hun...

In other news, my 4 door will shortly be back from its long sojourn at Churchill 4x4 where Jonathan and the team have been sorting out various mechanical niggles and fitting a correct early 80s lower tailgate, complete with hinged number plate plinth.

[wildcat45]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Genuinely don't know whether this is potentially rather splendid or absolutely gash. Would love to know a little more about its provenance.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/range-rover-1975-LWB-hun...

In other news, my 4 door will shortly be back from its long sojourn at Churchill 4x4 where Jonathan and the team have been sorting out various mechanical niggles and fitting a correct early 80s lower tailgate, complete with hinged number plate plinth.

I don't get the advert. It's not a 1975 model by the look of it. An early 4-door. Monteverdi?

[Huntsman]

I haven't got a clue about thr RR market, but thought this looked ok.

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/land+rover/ran...

[DonkeyApple]

wildcat45 said:

ClaphamGT3 said:

Genuinely don't know whether this is potentially rather splendid or absolutely gash. Would love to know a little more about its provenance.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/range-rover-1975-LWB-hun...

In other news, my 4 door will shortly be back from its long sojourn at Churchill 4x4 where Jonathan and the team have been sorting out various mechanical niggles and fitting a correct early 80s lower tailgate, complete with hinged number plate plinth.

I don't get the advert. It's not a 1975 model by the look of it. An early 4-door. Monteverdi?

It's a weird one. The sloping floor under the rear seats means the rear, at least, is post '82 as that change came in with the 4 door. The front is probably 2 door as the front doors are 2 door. There's also no mention of who did the conversion so one has to assume that it was done by a maniac in a council lock up.

At a guess it's a cut and shut of the two types and as it's being sold by a Dutch car vendor I would consider it safe to assume that it is total junk.

[DonkeyApple]

Huntsman said:

I haven't got a clue about thr RR market, but thought this looked ok.

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/land+rover/ran...

Looks lovely but an 'A1 solid underside' seems at odds with a car that needed a full respray. And the market for cars of this quality is around the £12k+ mark so seems almost half price if the description is accurate. My gut feeling is that 3 mins with a screwdriver under the car may explain all?

[ClaphamGT3]

DonkeyApple said:

Huntsman said:

I haven't got a clue about thr RR market, but thought this looked ok.

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/land+rover/ran...

Looks lovely but an 'A1 solid underside' seems at odds with a car that needed a full respray. And the market for cars of this quality is around the £12k+ mark so seems almost half price if the description is accurate. My gut feeling is that 3 mins with a screwdriver under the car may explain all?

Studious lack of reference to the integrity of the inner tub suggsts the vendor doesn't know how these things go together or knows only too well the horrors that lurk there, neither of which bode well. Also, lathe list of mechanical/service items suggests a stubborn running problem

The Dutch one intrigues somewhat. I'd love to hope that it is a gem with a fascinating and valuable provenance lost in translation. That said, I'm not about to drop a grand and two days of my life to go to Holland just to find that, far from being the long-lost hunting Range Rover of Prince Bernhard, it was in fact cobbled together with an angle grinder and a mig welder by Darryl in a lock-up in Burnley

[DonkeyApple]

This one looks interesting at first glance:

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/land+rover/ran...

The pictures look as if it's just had a good clean up rather than an overhaul and redo. Looks like there is sun fading on the palomino and clearly the carpets have the marks of life on them. The engine bay just looks like it's been washed and no real tarting up. I'd want to see if it had been resprayed as that paint looks very good but it looks like a car that would warrant closer inspection and if solid and true would be a much better car than the later ones.

[ClaphamGT3]

DonkeyApple said:

This one looks interesting at first glance:

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/land+rover/ran...

The pictures look as if it's just had a good clean up rather than an overhaul and redo. Looks like there is sun fading on the palomino and clearly the carpets have the marks of life on them. The engine bay just looks like it's been washed and no real tarting up. I'd want to see if it had been resprayed as that paint looks very good but it looks like a car that would warrant closer inspection and if solid and true would be a much better car than the later ones.

Similar condition to mine. Poor positioning of rear number plate and lack of drop-down plinth suggests that's not original and the headlining would want sorting. Could be a good one though, if the structure's solid

[DonkeyApple]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Similar condition to mine. Poor positioning of rear number plate and lack of drop-down plinth suggests that's not original and the headlining would want sorting. Could be a good one though, if the structure's solid

Yup. Tailgate replaced with a later style or reskinned. Not sure if that year should still have the glass bubble rear plate lamps? This one looks to have the later style. The shabby headlining is one of the things that made me suspect it could be quite an honest car on the grounds that if it was a total dog then they'd have fixed that to glam it up a bit.

[wildcat45]

It's been for sale for a few weeks.

[squirdan]

DonkeyApple said:

Looks lovely but an 'A1 solid underside' seems at odds with a car that needed a full respray. And the market for cars of this quality is around the £12k+ mark so seems almost half price if the description is accurate. My gut feeling is that 3 mins with a screwdriver under the car may explain all?

"we have undersealed"... in other words any nasty stuff is now covered in bitumenous paint !

[squirdan]

wildcat45 said:

It's been for sale for a few weeks.

it was on at Bicester Sports Cars http://bicestersportscars.co.uk/car-sales/range-ro...

obviously got jobbed on to another dealer

[squirdan]

my main project car ( Y reg 4 door ) is booked into paint shop 19th Jan

I've been busy thinking about colours and have decided LR "mid grey" aka welsh grey.

I cant find a RRC in it, but it is period-ish for Land Rovers
just a bit different to silver, period but unusual

the beauty of this era of RRC is the inside, engine bay, door shuts etc were satin black regardless of body colour. So if I did ever want to, in the words of Amy Winehouse, go back to black, it wouldnt be ruinous

http://www.arkonik.com/defender/Land-Rover-Defende...





the original plan was to leave it black, but I've decided against that because:

- non metallic black doesnt look that great
- notoriously difficult colour to paint
- some of the details like the grille get a bit lost
- dont want it to look like a poor mans CSK

Edited by squirdan on Tuesday 27th December 14:35

Edited by squirdan on Tuesday 27th December 14:42

[squirdan]

so by way of update:

- early 4 door - bought for its extremely clean condition (although I did hope it was ex SAS being special order black - it wasnt sadly )
- brand new JE 4 litre engine already in, on carbs, looks period but pokier
- R380 5 speed box and V8 bellhousing acquired
- interior to be soundproofed / dynamat type stuff
- seats and door cards retrimmed in tan leather. Seats will be the slightly later type with armrests and the headrest cushions...just like those better
- CSK / LSE type alloys (unless I find someone that can safely widen Rostyles)
- correct lower tailgate with number plate flap
- stiffer dampers, ARBs
- later brakes with new master cylinder
- new upper tailgate (maybe Famous Four alu kit)
- Becker Mexico or similar stereo with bluetooth streaming

what I'm hoping the result will be:

a fun, usable, early 4 door Rangie, with uprated handling, braking and a bit more oomph than standard
should be able to sit on a motorway without going deaf !
should be OK for round town (OK mpg wont be great)
has PAS as standard
225 tyres for a bit wider footprint
not a garage queen so bike or dog in the back as and when
but should also look cool - to me (and if anyone else likes it thats a bonus)

I'm not chasing power as I dont want to be travelling that fast in it...others may disagree but with no ABS, thin pillars etc I dont want a big accident. I never used to think that way with classic Porsche, but then again I didnt really have the kids in, and even my tamest one had a half cage.










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Edited by squirdan on Tuesday 27th December 14:39

Edited by squirdan on Tuesday 27th December 14:48

[DonkeyApple]

squirdan said:

my main project car ( Y reg 4 door ) is booked into paint shop 19th Jan

I've been busy thinking about colours and have decided LR "mid grey" aka welsh grey.

I cant find a RRC in it, but it is period-ish for Land Rovers
just a bit different to silver, period but unusual

the beauty of this era of RRC is the inside, engine bay, door shuts etc were satin black regardless of body colour. So if I did ever want to, in the words of Amy Winehouse, go back to black, it wouldnt be ruinous

http://www.arkonik.com/defender/Land-Rover-Defende...





the original plan was to leave it black, but I've decided against that because:

- non metallic black doesnt look that great
- notoriously difficult colour to paint
- some of the details like the grille get a bit lost
- dont want it to look like a poor mans CSK

Edited by squirdan on Tuesday 27th December 14:35

Edited by squirdan on Tuesday 27th December 14:42

Black is so much the colour of minicabs and Escort transport these days that it's just not a brilliant colour at present. And as you say, a bugger to avoid orange peel and it will clash with the CSK.

I had an LSE that had been resprayed in Aston's Cumberland Grey and it did look nice. Maybe swerve the LR colour chart altogether and just chose the exact colour that you would like best?

Which is, of course, a deep Burgundy.

[squirdan]

DonkeyApple said:

Black is so much the colour of minicabs and Escort transport these days that it's just not a brilliant colour at present. And as you say, a bugger to avoid orange peel and it will clash with the CSK.

I had an LSE that had been resprayed in Aston's Cumberland Grey and it did look nice. Maybe swerve the LR colour chart altogether and just chose the exact colour that you would like best?

TBH i am still thinking about that.

I might still do Porsche Slate Grey (non metallic, the colour Steve McQueen had his 911s in). can look greeny / grey depending on light

I had my 2.7 hotrod in it



forgot I nearly bought a CSK once!

[DonkeyApple]

That's a lovely porker and a good colour. I saw a Rangie done in a very gloss grey chosen from the fiat500 range. That looked very nice.

[NomduJour]

Sure I've seen that 2/4 door hybrid/lash-up somewhere before but I can't place it. Fact that it looks like it's a proper 70s+80s cut-and-shut puts me off immediately - be more interested if it was converted when new.