Classics dwarfed by moderns
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RichB said:
gary71 said:
911 v 991
You can trace the DNA, but only just
Crikey, in that picture for a moment I thought the one on the left was a Panamera You can trace the DNA, but only just
nalaeroom said:
My 1983 Janspeed Turbo 2.8 injection Capri and my 2011 Mondeo Titanium X Sport Estate having a snog !!!!!!
What strikes me the most is the wheels 13" on Capri and 19" on Mondeo.....
Alan M
VinceFox said:
daemonoid said:
Are you lupin the third?VinceFox said:
...Years ago when i was till building my capri i spent ages looking for brookies because they were massive. I'm looking at them right now and they look like castors on a shopping trolley.
Yet the Capri went well. Make you realise how much of this fashion for humugeous wheel is driven by fashion and nothing else. RichB said:
Yet the Capri went well. Make you realise how much of this fashion for humugeous wheel is driven by fashion and nothing else.
here, hereand wheel and tyre width, so much so sometimes that rain and snow beats even the multitude of electronic aids on the car
and of course road noise, so much so that we now have to have labels to tell us how noisy they are
When I had my first car (Triumph 1500 fwd) I remember saying I could never drive a Mini because it just seemed too small to be safe in traffic. Now, having driven the Herald alongside modern traffic, that argument's out the window and I'm thinking I could probably shoehorn a mini in, sideways on, in the garage behind the herald!
na said:
RichB said:
Yet the Capri went well. Make you realise how much of this fashion for humugeous wheel is driven by fashion and nothing else.
here, here - and wheel and tyre width, so much so sometimes that rain and snow beats even the multitude of electronic aids on the car - and of course road noise, so much so that we now have to have labels to tell us how noisy they areRichB said:
f course because cars have got bigger they've increased in weight meaning they need ever bigger and more powerful brakes and these typically dictate bigger rims to accommodate the discs - and so it goes on...
yes partly but it's also about fashion, tyre tread patterns are fashionable for crying out loudalso the bigger wheels for the brakes case falls down when the car is offered offered with say 14" wheels with the option of 15" wheels with even lower profile tyres, the brakes are the same size for both wheel sizes and on a lot of small cars with big wheel options you can just make out on the rear wheels, behind the centre hub cuddly little drum covers, arhhhh, sweet little things they are
just my personal taste but a lot of these very big wheels on some cars remind me of (the old) pram wheels
brakes are a sexy cool thing, well to show them off is, look at my painted calipers, my cars so fast it needs these huge brakes and wheels
of course I'd sooner the brakes were over sized than undersized but just hope the rest of the braking system is in good order and maintained regularly, same with these large wide tyres I hope the replacement costs don't discourage change well before they wear down to the legal limit yet alone beyond that
each to there own and it would be a boring world if we were all the same
300bhp/ton said:
NotNormal said:
eh?mph1977 said:
300bhp/ton said:
all that demonstrates is that cars now are a 'size bigger' than they were 20 summat years ago, compare modern Astra with the Vectra A and the current Corsa with a Mk2or 3 Astra... TheInternet said:
CDP said:
gary71 said:
911 v 991
...the 991 isn't a bloated car by any means...mph1977 said:
all that demonstrates is that cars now are a 'size bigger' than they were 20 summat years ago, compare modern Astra with the Vectra A and the current Corsa with a Mk2or 3 Astra...
probably some are two sizes bigger, the MK1 Golf compared to the latest version, I'd guess the Mk1 Golf might be smaller than the smallest VW (I've no idea what that is now, was there a Fox a few years ago?)all the cars need to be bigger because of all the extra items on them, for pedestrian safety, because adults and children are generally much bigger now, perhaps more padding inside - I'm sure a lot of modern cars have less room for the driver and passengers than the older smaller versions or models
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