JD Classics, what have they been up to?
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ettore said:
DodgyGeezer said:
Exactly this ^^^ trying to cash in on the good quality of the work that JD did - however (virtually)none of the then engineering/bodywork/trim staff are still there...
The commercial side (Derek) of JD is worth a Netflix miniseries but the quality of work from the workshop was always peak. Mortimer W is formed from the old JD workshop team so the quality is probably similarly top notch. The reprise of the name in relation to the quality of the work is possibly justified although deeply high risk if associated with the crooked bit of the past:Does changing the name back to JD Classics indicate that the current company isn't doing so well ?
GoodOlBoy said:
ettore said:
DodgyGeezer said:
Exactly this ^^^ trying to cash in on the good quality of the work that JD did - however (virtually)none of the then engineering/bodywork/trim staff are still there...
The commercial side (Derek) of JD is worth a Netflix miniseries but the quality of work from the workshop was always peak. Mortimer W is formed from the old JD workshop team so the quality is probably similarly top notch. The reprise of the name in relation to the quality of the work is possibly justified although deeply high risk if associated with the crooked bit of the past:Does changing the name back to JD Classics indicate that the current company isn't doing so well ?
It's all a bit of a shame. I recently tried to use them but had an awful experience with one individual.
I don't think the PH rules allow me to go into any detail but needless to say I won't be returning or recommending them! It's frustrating because the technicians I spoke to were fantastic, but let down by a terrible sales person.
I don't think the PH rules allow me to go into any detail but needless to say I won't be returning or recommending them! It's frustrating because the technicians I spoke to were fantastic, but let down by a terrible sales person.
RichB said:
They are certainly bigging up the JD Classics name on their website https://woodham-mortimer.com/
They can puff as hard as they like but an S2 E-type FHC was recently sold, in immaculate condition, for under half that sum. Probably not as good as this one, but one that had won a concours a few years back and hardly used since. And Dodgy Geezer, would you care to explain the "irregularities" going on with WM? I'd be happy to know.
lowdrag said:
They can puff as hard as they like but an S2 E-type FHC was recently sold, in immaculate condition, for under half that sum. Probably not as good as this one, but one that had won a concours a few years back and hardly used since.
And Dodgy Geezer, would you care to explain the "irregularities" going on with WM? I'd be happy to know.
I'm not going all 'secret squirrel' all I'll say is I know few people who've worked there before and after, the general consensus being that the new outfit wasn't run any better than before.The saving grace that Derek had was that he was passionate about cars (and the money, but that's a whole different issue obviously) And Dodgy Geezer, would you care to explain the "irregularities" going on with WM? I'd be happy to know.
Lile father like son, it seems. Have any of you seen that the Millie Miglia have issued the following statement stripping the company (J D Classics) of any rights to say they are the sponsors of the rally? So we seem to be back to square one, when the pld company was sold and quickly went under due to fraud and are still being sued for a mere £64 million, were bought by Woodhall Mortimer, decided the original name was "more appropriate" asnd where we go from here heaven knows
There is a thread on Facebook JDC Historic Replica where a person seems to have bought a place in the rally but has received no paperwork nor been refunded. So round we go again, it seems
There is a thread on Facebook JDC Historic Replica where a person seems to have bought a place in the rally but has received no paperwork nor been refunded. So round we go again, it seems
Edited by lowdrag on Sunday 21st May 13:50
The world of dealing in valuable old cars seems to be a minefield with more than its fair share of shysters, much like the world of fine art dealing. I've recently read Brian Sewell's autobiographies. His time at Christie's and his general knowledge of the art world is a bit of an eye-opener.
Hampster took along one of his employees (body work specialist) to view the car. In the specialist’s opinion the car need a bare metal respray due to micro blistering. The dealer just wanted paint rectification for an upcoming show (Salon Prive).
The specialist pointed that any work would only provide temporary relief and the problem would return. Richard undertook the work in the hope of gaining future business.
Some of the terminology l’ve used may be a bit off, as I’m not au fait with these things.
The specialist pointed that any work would only provide temporary relief and the problem would return. Richard undertook the work in the hope of gaining future business.
Some of the terminology l’ve used may be a bit off, as I’m not au fait with these things.
rovermorris999 said:
The world of dealing in valuable old cars seems to be a minefield with more than its fair share of shysters, much like the world of fine art dealing. I've recently read Brian Sewell's autobiographies. His time at Christie's and his general knowledge of the art world is a bit of an eye-opener.
Always has been. Lots of money and no formal regulation so like any such market it is rife with fraud and criminality. People generally know which of the big cars have dubious history and there's no shortage of fake Jags out there. The issue is that owners are quick to stamp on anyone who may speak out and years of effort have gone into masking and deleting any evidence to support someone who knows the truth.
My father is the last of three people who knew the true history of one particular Jaguar. They know because they had the engine and know what they did with it and that it ceased to exist many decades ago. It's a tale that involves a famous engineer, a famous racing driving, a not so well known driver, a series of class wins one season and a quarry north of London 60 years ago. And today involves the owner of a claimed matching numbers car who's waiting for a 90 year old ex racing driver to clock off before he can sell it.
In reality because most people in the market know the gossip pertaining to particular cars, if there were to be a big sell off in the wider market these particular cars just wouldn't find buyers anywhere close to market value. So long as the market is robust it all keeps ticking along.
Interesting thread on the Mini Cooper S that they are selling: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=20...
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