MOT exemption consultation result
Discussion
It's official - 40 years.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
The interesting bit... The 8pt rule won't be used for "substantially original" test - they're drafting a new test. Pre-88 mods will be excluded. Effective May 2018.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
The interesting bit... The 8pt rule won't be used for "substantially original" test - they're drafting a new test. Pre-88 mods will be excluded. Effective May 2018.
Edited by TooMany2cvs on Thursday 14th September 14:44
Not sure I agree with the outcome. (Owner of cars from 1929 to present day so used to this no MOT malarky already).
'60s car just failed it's MOT on a couple of small points that were tricky for me to pick up on, (especially as I don't have a ramp!)
Just reading this, wonder if pre '88 mods means the mods were done before 1988 or that they are of the type that could be done pre 1988?
How could you tell when the engine was changed in a 1970 car if the new engine was also a 1970 engine for instance? IE A Morris Minor with a 1275 engine in it. Could have been done at any time.
'60s car just failed it's MOT on a couple of small points that were tricky for me to pick up on, (especially as I don't have a ramp!)
Just reading this, wonder if pre '88 mods means the mods were done before 1988 or that they are of the type that could be done pre 1988?
How could you tell when the engine was changed in a 1970 car if the new engine was also a 1970 engine for instance? IE A Morris Minor with a 1275 engine in it. Could have been done at any time.
TooMany2cvs said:
It's official - 40 years.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
The interesting bit... The 8pt rule won't be used for "substantially original" test - they're drafting a new test. Pre-88 mods will be excluded. Effective May 2018.
hold your horses, not official yet, it needs secondary legislation, which may get ditched to make way for.....time for Brexit legislation.https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
The interesting bit... The 8pt rule won't be used for "substantially original" test - they're drafting a new test. Pre-88 mods will be excluded. Effective May 2018.
Edited by TooMany2cvs on Thursday 14th September 14:44
Pica-Pica said:
hold your horses, not official yet, it needs secondary legislation, which may get ditched to make way for.....time for Brexit legislation.
That's as official as we're going to get, I think.They HAVE to do something prior to brexit, anyway, because the current everything-pre-60 has in breach of the Roadworthiness Directive since 2014. 20th May 2018 is not a coincidence - it's the date that the current MOT rules would actually become unlawful.
https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/how-the-eu-ro...
The only detail is the "originality" test - somebody's sent me a single page from an official-looking doc giving some of the draft, but no URL for it. Up to 15% more power doesn't count, for a start.
Edited by TooMany2cvs on Thursday 14th September 16:09
TooMany2cvs said:
The only detail is the "originality" test - somebody's sent me a single page from an official-looking doc giving some of the draft, but no URL for it. Up to 15% more power doesn't count, for a start.
Yer tiz.https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
mgv8 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Keep it stiff said:
Good result!
No, it really really really isn't.(And I've got four vehicles that will fall under this exemption, another in two years, and another two years after that...)
TooMany2cvs said:
Because it means that the pre60 MOT exemption - already a bloody stupid idea - will now bring in nearly two decades more of vehicles that have zero control over their condition.
Did you actually read the paper with the stats as to why they are doing this? Hardly any accidents in any car are down to a mechanical failure, let alone one that would be spotted in an MOT. Add to the fact hardly any accidents involve cars over 40 years old and what's the point in the test? 57 Chevy said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Because it means that the pre60 MOT exemption - already a bloody stupid idea - will now bring in nearly two decades more of vehicles that have zero control over their condition.
Did you actually read the paper with the stats as to why they are doing this? Hardly any accidents in any car are down to a mechanical failure, let alone one that would be spotted in an MOT. Add to the fact hardly any accidents involve cars over 40 years old and what's the point in the test? I've also seen some utter chod that's got through MOTs, and wonder what the hell's going to be going un-detected...
Mid-late 70s stuff is much more sensible-daily-usable than pre-60.
TooMany2cvs said:
Yes, I did.
I've also seen some utter chod that's got through MOTs, and wonder what the hell's going to be going un-detected...
Mid-late 70s stuff is much more sensible-daily-usable than pre-60.
I have a 57 Chevy and a 78 Plymouth, the mechanical technology is identical I've also seen some utter chod that's got through MOTs, and wonder what the hell's going to be going un-detected...
Mid-late 70s stuff is much more sensible-daily-usable than pre-60.
TooMany2cvs said:
Yes, I did..
Including this ??Transport Research Laboratory estimated in 2011 that just 3% of road casualties could be associated with vehicle defects. The effect of MOTs on the rate of vehicle defects contributing to crashes amongst these older vehicles is difficult to assess. Our conclusion is there could be a small negative effect on road safety. The impact assessment uses an estimate of close to two serious injuries per year. However there is no specific evidence that not testing vehicles of historic interest will lead to a safety risk materialising
57 Chevy said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Yes, I did.
I've also seen some utter chod that's got through MOTs, and wonder what the hell's going to be going un-detected...
Mid-late 70s stuff is much more sensible-daily-usable than pre-60.
I have a 57 Chevy and a 78 Plymouth, the mechanical technology is identical I've also seen some utter chod that's got through MOTs, and wonder what the hell's going to be going un-detected...
Mid-late 70s stuff is much more sensible-daily-usable than pre-60.
TooMany2cvs said:
The only detail is the "originality" test - somebody's sent me a single page from an official-looking doc giving some of the draft, but no URL for it. Up to 15% more power doesn't count, for a start.
So back to this. Welcome for your spot inspection sir, please pull onto that dyno over there and then the scales so we can measure your power to weight ratio. Then we'll look up the factory figures in our archives, that were of course proven and legally binding. Once you've done all that can you accompany us in our time machine back to 1988 so we can check what your car looked like at the time. Edited by TooMany2cvs on Thursday 14th September 16:09
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