O.H.M.S.S cougar for sale

Author
Discussion

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
quotequote all
If my numbers come up tonight then this would be in my garage.
Although I’ve not met him in person, only spoken to him on the phone, the current owner comes across as a thoroughly decent chap and although he is sad to see it go I hope it gets a good price
https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/26122/preview_lot...
Originally he bought it 30 years ago out of exchange and Mart!

Edited by stuartmmcfc on Saturday 14th November 12:26

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
quotequote all
neutral 3 said:
Bunghans web site is appallingly dire. Have you a link to the cars history ?
Unfortunately not, only what the owner told me over the phone and what I’ve picked up over the years from the cougar owners club

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
quotequote all
How fro you know?
We’re you conned by all of them?

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
quotequote all
There’s obviously 2 sides to this story but can we concentrate on the car please smile ?

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
quotequote all
It is the 429 cobra jet engine! I know the owners spent a small fortune restoring it over the last 30 years. In his own words, he might have over restored it if anything. It’s better than new.

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
quotequote all
Incidentally, I spoke to the owner today to buy a used drivers door glass for my 69 off him that he had in his loft.
There was absolutely no suggestion it was and no reason why it should be, but imagine it was the original glass from DR’s car before it was restored?!
I won’t ask as I’m sure ill be disappointed but you can dream can’t you!

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
quotequote all
neutral 3 said:
Did he tell you the cars early history ??
Well, as he said, it’s been very difficult to find out exactly how the car was used. He has invoices, letters and a marti report showing the car was one of the 3 cars used in the film (2 survived).
It’s very likely it was the one used in the barn scene filmed at Pinewood and possible it was the one from the beach scene at the start. No one knows for certain about either anymore.

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
quotequote all
A good theory, but just to throw a spanner in the works the other survivor was in Sweden for the first 20 years I think. It must be this one that was in the Bond display in Covent Garden a couple of years ago. It wasn’t in great condition but didn’t seem to have any serious dents although it did have an authentic looking ski rack on the trunk.
Is this the Portugal one with a later added ski rack and then found it’s way to Sweden or did the Portuguese one get ruined by salt and mad driving?
No records seem to have been kept and it seems anyone who would know for certain is probably dead now and tbh no seemed to know for certain or care much almost straight after filming stopped.
It does seem very likely that this is the barn scene one and it is certain that only 2 out of 3 survived.

Edited by stuartmmcfc on Sunday 15th November 21:22

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
quotequote all
neutral 3 said:
Be interesting to know, just why a Mercury Cougar was chosen ?
It’s only a guess but maybe it was used because the convertible was a new model that year, it was designed to be a luxury sports car designed with European influences and so suited the characters wild but sophisticated style?

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
quotequote all
I don’t think so. The owner was telling me he has a report confirming the details of the sale from Lois Eminger and the Marti report with supply details.
I’m sure they would have got a decent discount though smile

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Monday 16th November 2020
quotequote all
I’m not sure tbh. You have to remember I only had a 20 minute conversation with the owner about all things Cougar and it was only half way through that the penny dropped that he was the owner of one of the Bond cars.
As I understand it, there’s no original records in existence anymore. However there is the Marti report and a report from Lois Eminger (“the invoice lady”) which confirm it is one of the Bond cars.
What this report says exactly I don’t know.

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Monday 16th November 2020
quotequote all
Here’s another photo he sent me off recent prep work for the auction. I dont think I’m betraying any confidence -he sent them to me with no caveat attached, and at the end of the day, it’s all publicity for the sale

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Monday 16th November 2020
quotequote all
Best colour wink

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Monday 16th November 2020
quotequote all
Probably a bit of both but who knows for certain anymore smile

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Monday 16th November 2020
quotequote all
I had a look how much those mascots cost. If you can find one theyre about 70 quid and a divorce!

Edited by stuartmmcfc on Monday 16th November 17:10

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Wednesday 16th December 2020
quotequote all
£310 000!,
Nice result!

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
quotequote all
I’m genuinely pleased for him. In my short dealings with him last month he came across as a really nice guy and was very helpful to me.
I sent him a short congratulations message last night and he said he was in total shock!
I watched the auction live and it was quite exciting. The auctioneer made the joke, “there’s no rush for this sale, in fact we have all the time in the world!”

Incidentally, I’ve read a bit more about it on the Cougar forums in the US from people who know far more than me and it seems that initially 2 were ordered and both were used in. Switzerland. As it became apparent that they were being damaged, this one was ordered.
All 3 came back to the uk initially where 1 was scrapped.
This one was definitely used in the barn scene. It went through 8 owners, was drag raced etc until Rob bought it 30 years ago. It wasn’t advertised as a Bond car and it’s former role seems to be have been forgotten ! No one seems to know for sure which car was used in Portugal anymore.
I’ve no idea where’s it’s gone.

stuartmmcfc

Original Poster:

8,672 posts

194 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
quotequote all
If I had a LOT of money I’d have bought this, and paid more!
It’s been one of my dream cars for a long time but I’d also need a lot more cash to build a purpose built house with an indoor display area.
There’s NO way I’d take it outside and I suspect this will be its future unfortunately.