How do I stop people parking on a grass verge?
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Who owns the land?
Ask the owner to fence or put rocks there, assuming that there is nothing which legally prevents them from doing so.
I'm sure that they don't want their property continually churned up.
In the extreme, pass photos of the offending cars, with number plates, to the landowners who may wish to claim for damage caused to their land.
Of course the owners may not be interested.
Ask the owner to fence or put rocks there, assuming that there is nothing which legally prevents them from doing so.
I'm sure that they don't want their property continually churned up.
In the extreme, pass photos of the offending cars, with number plates, to the landowners who may wish to claim for damage caused to their land.
Of course the owners may not be interested.
The posts or rocks suggestion is a good one provided all of your neighbours agree with the siting of them even if you don't own the land.
If you wanted to make it 100% ok then contact the land owner (whilst highways are responsible for maitenance they might not be the land owner) but it's not really necessary as most land owners are more than happy for local residents to ensure that their land is not mistreated.
If you wanted to make it 100% ok then contact the land owner (whilst highways are responsible for maitenance they might not be the land owner) but it's not really necessary as most land owners are more than happy for local residents to ensure that their land is not mistreated.
slapmatt said:
I live in a nice little close, where every house has a private driveway and most have garages.
My house faces a grass verge that runs alongside a neighbour's fence. I enjoy being able to look out the front of my house and not into someone else's living room, but increasingly this grass verge is being used as a car park, mainly by retarded women in 4x4s who have quickly turned the grass into something resembling a ploughed field. I have politely requested to a few of them that they not park there, which is usually greeted with a blank stare and a grunt.
I genuinely don't want to start putting up "No Parking" signs, as I think that's a little anally retentive, but both myself and my next-door neighbour have commented as on more than one occasion we've found it difficult to get our cars on and off the driveway.
I thought about planting some small conifers along the edge of the verge, but I'm sure aforementioned 4x4 drivers would simply park over the top of them.
Any ideas?
If you/your neighbour own the land you can definitely do what you like with it. A few one foot high posts and a decorative chain for a start. Then you plant it up with something nice - in due course you'll have something very pleasant to look at.
You could even dig it over completely and plant it up as a bed - very few "grunters" would take their car over the top of a flower bed!
If you don't own the land as Simpo and others have said you are stuffed. Mind you - you and your neighbour could investigate seeing if you could claim ownership or even buy it! Then you'll be able to do whatever you want with it.
In the mean time. Go buy a jalopy. Park it there. At least it belongs to *you*.
slapmatt said:
I don't know who, if anyone owns the land. I contacted the council and they politely referred to it as "no man's land, opposite number XXX"!
XXX being where I live!
You need one of us kind lawerly people to do an index map search for you. You really need to find some kind of a plan of the area though if it doesn't have an address.
If you really want to sort it - go to Landregistry.co.uk and look at the details for your own house online (it'll cost you a couple of quid) download the plan and hopefully this should have the suspect bit of land on it) let me have it and I'll do an index map search for you to find out who owns it.
Is it an estate of sorts that you live on? When were the houses built? My guess is that if this is land adjacent to the highway there is every possibility it was adopted by the Council under a S.38 agreement so they have responsibility for it.
If the drivers are mounting kerbs to get to the grass then flag this with the council anyway as a hazard.
slapmatt said:
I don't know who, if anyone owns the land. I contacted the council and they politely referred to it as "no man's land, opposite number XXX"!
XXX being where I live!
SQUAT IT!!!!!!!!!
I'm telling you, right now!
Take action to claim the land as yours. Stay there for 20 years, then have it added to the records of the house.
To claim the land as yours, just demark it. That's all you need to do. Lil fence would do nicely ... as well as sorting out the parking problem. Do it before the car parker claims that they have a right to the land through constant usage (of parkingtheir car there).
If it's registered land there are recent cases that have affected the ability to claim prescriptive rights of land. It's highly unlikely to be a go'er.
Even if it's unregistered land then you have to exclude all others from the using the land and make it obvious that you are occupying it for your own purposes.
Can't see that working on either front from what we're told.
Even if it's unregistered land then you have to exclude all others from the using the land and make it obvious that you are occupying it for your own purposes.
Can't see that working on either front from what we're told.
Piglet said:
If it's registered land there are recent cases that have affected the ability to claim prescriptive rights of land. It's highly unlikely to be a go'er.
Even if it's unregistered land then you have to exclude all others from the using the land and make it obvious that you are occupying it for your own purposes.
Can't see that working on either front from what we're told.
Awwww ... c'mon, Piglet - we both know it's been done.
It's a grass verge. It's administered by the Highways Agency, it's owned by the Local Authority and no-one's ever registered it. At the very least it's worth three lil wooden poles and a length of chain. Mow the grass through the summer .... see where it leads.
J1mmyD said:
If it's registered land there are recent cases that have affected the ability to claim prescriptive rights of land. It's highly unlikely to be a go'er.
Even if it's unregistered land then you have to exclude all others from the using the land and make it obvious that you are occupying it for your own purposes.
Can't see that working on either front from what we're told.
Awwww ... c'mon, Piglet - we both know it's been done.
It's a grass verge. It's administered by the Highways Agency, it's owned by the Local Authority and no-one's ever registered it. At the very least it's worth three lil wooden poles and a length of chain. Mow the grass through the summer .... see where it leads.
Depends how long your attention span is I suppose!! Personally i'd rather not wait 20 years.
Pye v Graham - European Court of Human Rights has almost certainly blown away that option for registered land.
He needs to find out whether it's registered - if it is it appears to be a waste of time trying to claim perscriptive rights from now on.
If it isn't it might be worth a punt but that isn't really the problem he's trying to solve now. He just wants to stop people parking on it - not gain himself an extra bit of land over the road from his house! (which will cause him problems when he sells if he tries to sell with the benefit of it!)
It is annoying when people park on grass verges but I think all of this talk of putting up fences and rocks and if they don't notice it, it's their own fault is a little bit little englander for my liking. It's a bit like people who think they own the bit of road that's in front of their homes....
I'd go for the flower bed idea, that way it looks better and will presumably stop people parking on it. Mind you, if you don't keep it pretty then it just becomes a dirt patch and nobody is going to give two hoots about parking on that are they?
I'd go for the flower bed idea, that way it looks better and will presumably stop people parking on it. Mind you, if you don't keep it pretty then it just becomes a dirt patch and nobody is going to give two hoots about parking on that are they?
nwtony said:
I'd go for the flower bed idea, that way it looks better and will presumably stop people parking on it. Mind you, if you don't keep it pretty then it just becomes a dirt patch and nobody is going to give two hoots about parking on that are they?
This is the problem - because there are clearly tyre tracks across the grass (from said 4x4) all and sundry think it is now the local car park.
I'd happily put down half a dozen little confiers if I knew it would make a different and the bastards wouldn't simply park on top of them, but given that they seem completely oblivious to the fact that are ruining the grass and blocking people's driveways, I don't think a few 1ft height trees are going to make alot of difference.
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