Cue PH brainiacs - logic puzzle!

[gorvid]

So the relationship between the wheels and the conveyor belt is limited, in that it does not affect the aircraft (force not passed on)....
If this was done with a car it would remain still (yes?) (hence the 'no airspeed' argument)
But because of the propulsion of the aircraft, it moves along the 'runway' as normal...just that the wheels (and only the wheels) are going ballistic to keep up with the converor belt...?

[GasBlaster]

gorvid said:

So the relationship between the wheels and the conveyor belt is limited, in that it does not affect the aircraft (force not passed on).... If this was done with a car it would remain still (yes?) (hence the 'no airspeed' argument) But because of the propulsion of the aircraft, it moves along the 'runway' as normal...just that the wheels (and only the wheels) are going ballistic to keep up with the converor belt...?

By Jove I think he's got it!

[BliarOut]

Sounds good so far....

[JonRB]

gorvid said:

So the relationship between the wheels and the conveyor belt is limited, in that it does not affect the aircraft (force not passed on).... If this was done with a car it would remain still (yes?) (hence the 'no airspeed' argument) But because of the propulsion of the aircraft, it moves along the 'runway' as normal...just that the wheels (and only the wheels) are going ballistic to keep up with the converor belt...?

Yep, that's pretty much the size of it.

They key point is the interaction between the wheels and the rest of the aircraft, because that is the only path for force to be transferred from the conveyor belt to the airframe. The propulsion (be it jet or propellor) acts on the airframe, and the conveyor belt acts on the wheels.

[gorvid]

...yep, as I first said: the plane will not take off...

[BliarOut]

gorvid said:

...yep, as I first said: the plane will not take off...

This is going to be good... So let's hear how the force magically transfers from the wheels into the airframe then

[gorvid]

You are correct - the force cannot be transfered effectively into the airframe...
All I said is that the plane will not take off.

[dieseljohn]

This thread is making me depressed.

[BliarOut]

gorvid said:

You are correct - the force cannot be transfered effectively into the airframe... All I said is that the plane will not take off.

You're going to have to do a bit better than that to convince us I'm afraid.

[joust]

Not really, just this thread is full of silly people who should get out more....