Sex change teen to become pop star

[Poledriver]

sprinter885 said:

"Roll on" ?
Not spray?

I was thinking of the environment, don't want to lose too much Oxygen, it's needed to help power my engine!

[tonyvid]

PhilLL said:

bob1179 said:

She does look like a right little hottie, it's a bit scary really.

There you are in a bar, chatting to a tidy little blonde, you've had a few beers, then she suggests you go back to her house 'Happy days!' you think to yourself. So you're at hers, getting funky on the sofa, having a fondle, you work your hand all the way down to her clunge only to find that she isn't getting moist, you try some more, she gives you that wink, you notice the prominent voice box and the narrow hips, it suddenly dawns on you...

What do you do now?

OXO? In for a penny, in for a pound..

And the difference between doing that and going gay is?......

[Poledriver]

tonyvid said:

PhilLL said:

bob1179 said:

She does look like a right little hottie, it's a bit scary really.

There you are in a bar, chatting to a tidy little blonde, you've had a few beers, then she suggests you go back to her house 'Happy days!' you think to yourself. So you're at hers, getting funky on the sofa, having a fondle, you work your hand all the way down to her clunge only to find that she isn't getting moist, you try some more, she gives you that wink, you notice the prominent voice box and the narrow hips, it suddenly dawns on you...

What do you do now?

OXO? In for a penny, in for a pound..

And the difference between doing that and going gay is?......

On average? About 6 inches!

[sadako]

Famous Graham said:

sadako said:

If you don't have the condition and take oestrogen you would also become impotent, sterile, and suicidal...

If you treat the disease...

Since when did the age of consent have anything to do with treating a disease...

Hang on a minute. While I don't mean to denigrate transexuals, or dismiss the possibility that someone could really feel they were the "wrong" gender, I was always under the impression it was a psychological/consciousness kind of thing rather than physiological.

Early results from pet scans and brain dissections suggest physiological with m2f brains showing characteristics closer to f brains than m brains, but such studies need more time as there is a hell of a lot of unknowns in neuroscience. The current theory is that it is caused by the same chemical imbalances as causes hermaphrodites since related conditions are often present in transexuals such as hypospadias or are hermaps who had it 'corrected' as a baby but the doctors just plain guessed wrong.

[Sciroccology]

ali_kat said:

Famous Graham said:

Edmund - "Well, when I fell in love with her, I thought she was a boy."
Melchitt - "Oh well, of course, that's perfectly acceptable."

I knew you would quote something about 'Bob'

Is that "Bury me in a Y-shaped coffin" Bob?

[BigLepton]

sadako said:

BigLepton said:

Depends who paid for all the surgery and drugs. When she started she was legally deemed below the age of consent to have sex, but it was OK for her to choose to change sex?

Since when did the age of consent have anything to do with treating a disease? Do you feel that people need to be over 16 to get a tumour removed? I gather in the UK they tend to prescribe anti-androgens to prevent puberty if they can diagnose it early enough, then use oestrogen later. Most are not that lucky, don't make the connection, and go through puberty wondering why they are different and having their symptoms blamed on teenage angst. Remember we are not talking about trannies who put on a skirt to get off, we are talking about people who feel nauseous when they look at themselves in the mirror.

He doesn't have a disease. He just thinks he'd prefer to be a girl. If he gets to the relevant age of majority and still feels the same and if he has the money to pay for his sex change, then he may go ahead. If he is not mature enough to choose to have sex, he is not mature enough to decide what sex he wants to be. No prat pretending that there is any equivalency between this and a poor kid with a brain tumour will change that.

Edited by BigLepton on Tuesday 23 September 14:48

[hugoagogo]

surely pre-puberty children don't really feel male or female in any real sense (in their own minds, you perverts), only what society tells them they are

this boy might well have completely changed his feelings when he started puberty (assuming there weren't any other outside influences telling him he was really a girl all the time)

[Badgerboy]

Hmmm, what to do.....

I'm not fussy;

[gjc10212]

Badgerboy said:

Hmmm, what to do.....

I'm not fussy;

...but there's a white stringy looking thing dangling out!

[stuttgartmetal]

PhilLL said:

Does he/she have.. you know... a functioning ladygarden??!!

We use to perform Transgender Reassignments at here in the eighties.
Some of the specimens coming through the door would make you shudder.
However some would certainly make you consider.

The op is quite straight forward.
Remove the testis, and associated plumbing.
shape the scrotum to use as thee skin for the labia.
Trim the penile artery, and shape it to poke through the labia to form a clitoris.
Disect the outside of the phallus from the tissue within, and suture it up inside out to form a tube.
A bit of jiggery pokery to push the tube inside to form the vagina, and pull the stump of the penile artery through a preformed hole to form the clit.
Then suture around the edges of the scrotum, pulling it up tight.
They don't look that convincing.
Post-op a dilator has to be used regularly to stop the vagina prolapsing and flopping out.

Still fancy a go?

[Badgerboy]

stuttgartmetal said:

PhilLL said:

Does he/she have.. you know... a functioning ladygarden??!!

Post-op a dilator has to be used regularly to stop the vagina prolapsing and flopping out.

Christ, thats a new level of wrongness. Imagine your new pseudo gash falling out!

[stuttgartmetal]

Badgerboy said:

stuttgartmetal said:

PhilLL said:

Does he/she have.. you know... a functioning ladygarden??!!

Post-op a dilator has to be used regularly to stop the vagina prolapsing and flopping out.

Christ, thats a new level of wrongness. Imagine your new pseudo gash falling out!

Shaped like an inflatable cock with all the air out.

Quite an image eh ?

[A8VIP]

We were doing just fine until I stumbled on this pic...



Which looks a bit 'drag queen' from this angle!

[Heskey]

Badgerboy said:

Hmmm, what to do.....

I'm not fussy;

I get the feeling this picture may become infamous on here

[Famous Graham]

Sciroccology said:

ali_kat said:

Famous Graham said:

Edmund - "Well, when I fell in love with her, I thought she was a boy."
Melchitt - "Oh well, of course, that's perfectly acceptable."

I knew you would quote something about 'Bob'

Is that "Bury me in a Y-shaped coffin" Bob?

That was Jane Harrington I believe.

[Famous Graham]

sadako said:

Famous Graham said:

sadako said:

If you don't have the condition and take oestrogen you would also become impotent, sterile, and suicidal...

If you treat the disease...

Since when did the age of consent have anything to do with treating a disease...

Hang on a minute. While I don't mean to denigrate transexuals, or dismiss the possibility that someone could really feel they were the "wrong" gender, I was always under the impression it was a psychological/consciousness kind of thing rather than physiological.

Early results from pet scans and brain dissections suggest physiological with m2f brains showing characteristics closer to f brains than m brains, but such studies need more time as there is a hell of a lot of unknowns in neuroscience. The current theory is that it is caused by the same chemical imbalances as causes hermaphrodites since related conditions are often present in transexuals such as hypospadias or are hermaps who had it 'corrected' as a baby but the doctors just plain guessed wrong.

Ta for the info

[Poledriver]

stuttgartmetal said:

PhilLL said:

Does he/she have.. you know... a functioning ladygarden??!!

We use to perform Transgender Reassignments at here in the eighties. Things have moved on since then though!

They don't look that convincing. The one that I've seen did! (apart from the pee hole!)

Post-op a dilator has to be used regularly to stop the vagina prolapsing and flopping out. (Is that the glass dildo that they have to "use" every night?

Edited by Poledriver on Tuesday 23 September 15:21

[King Herald]

Cara Van Man said:

King Herald said:

hugoagogo said:

terrible affliction

I myself am trapped in the body of a fat bald bloke

I'm a lesbian, trapped in a man's body!

You mean you hate all men, like a strap-on up the butt and wear dungerees?

They're not quite the words I would use myself.

[stuttgartmetal]

King Herald said:

Cara Van Man said:

King Herald said:

hugoagogo said:

terrible affliction

I myself am trapped in the body of a fat bald bloke

I'm a lesbian, trapped in a man's body!

You mean you hate all men, like a strap-on up the butt and wear dungerees?

They're not quite the words I would use myself, I'd be gurgling past the ball gag

efa

Edited by stuttgartmetal on Tuesday 23 September 16:30

[sadako]

BigLepton said:

sadako said:

BigLepton said:

Depends who paid for all the surgery and drugs. When she started she was legally deemed below the age of consent to have sex, but it was OK for her to choose to change sex?

Since when did the age of consent have anything to do with treating a disease? Do you feel that people need to be over 16 to get a tumour removed? I gather in the UK they tend to prescribe anti-androgens to prevent puberty if they can diagnose it early enough, then use oestrogen later. Most are not that lucky, don't make the connection, and go through puberty wondering why they are different and having their symptoms blamed on teenage angst. Remember we are not talking about trannies who put on a skirt to get off, we are talking about people who feel nauseous when they look at themselves in the mirror.

He doesn't have a disease. He just thinks he'd prefer to be a girl. If he gets to the relevant age of majority and still feels the same and if he has the money to pay for his sex change, then he may go ahead. If he is not mature enough to choose to have sex, he is not mature enough to decide what sex he wants to be. No prat pretending that there is any equivalency between this and a poor kid with a brain tumour will change that.

Edited by BigLepton on Tuesday 23 September 14:48

Sounds like you are about as stuck in the past as charing cross' GID surgery techniqes. Do you also believe homosexuality is just a lifestyle choice? I sincerely hope that noone in your family is born with it...