inland revenue p14 / p35 web submission

inland revenue p14 / p35 web submission

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Graham

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16,368 posts

286 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Any one had any problems?


my p35 doesnt add up !!!!


p14's correct, box totals correct, total owing amount incorrect ?

how many different fecking helpdesks do they have arghhhhh

wanty1974

3,704 posts

250 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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Do you have any funding for tax credits? You have to input that into a different page for it to work out the correct amount owed... mine worked fine, which is nice 'cos Mr Taxman owes me over 2 grand!

Eric Mc

122,233 posts

267 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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What paper trail do you generate with this system? If you have to substantiate the figures you entered, you had better make sure you have the ability to show the Inland Revenue how you arrived at the figures submitted.

>> Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 26th April 17:12

Graham

Original Poster:

16,368 posts

286 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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to be honest it shouldnt get any simpler than my returns...


2 employees and only NI and tax to pay... no ssp/student loans or anything...


for the p14 i always phone the helpline every year and get them to confirm all the p14 figures.

This year i even put them in the web forms as i was on the phone.

at the end of the form there is a list of figures and a sub total. no the list doesnt add up to the total, and hence the total owing is wrong... ok its only £60.69p but its still wrong ( to low actually)

im going to send a payment for the correct higher amount anyway. I now have a call ref, only after 8 attempts their fax machine fails to get the full print out.

its driving me insane

I do have a good records ( well their not that complicated) good job as the IR/NI peeps investigated us last year

Muncher

12,219 posts

251 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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I'm about to do this.

Strictly, the company doesn't have any staff at all. Myself, sole director and due to the startup costs not turning a technical profit just yet.

I haven't seen the forms yet, but I take it there is an option to enter "no employees"?

Graham

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16,368 posts

286 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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as a director your classed as an employee, and will be subject to paye.. if you've not paid yourself anything or are below the limits there is a different form p38 i think which you fill out instead of a p14. I think!!!!


one of our other companies only has one director paid and even though its only a few grand i still fill out a p14 and p35 to be on the safe side

G

Muncher

12,219 posts

251 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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That's weird, as from a company law point of view, a director is not classed as an employee unless they have a contract of employment.

Eric Mc

122,233 posts

267 months

Tuesday 26th April 2005
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The P35 shows a summary of PAYE and NI in respect of salaries paid to the directors and employees by the employer during the tax year. If the there were no employees and the director did not draw any salary, then the section showing PAYE and NI can be left blank with the totals at the bottom of the page being shown as "Nil".

Don't forget that the "questionnaire" element of the P35 (the "yes", "no" boxes) on Page 4 are just as important as the tax and NI summary and should be ticked in the appropriate manner whether there was any PAYE or NI deducted during the year.

The P38 is normally reserved for "lower paid employees" and casuals. No matter what a director earned in the year, he/she is never classified as a "lower paid employee".