Truck driving question

[m3jappa]

angoooose said:

I was told that now we've left the EU, HGVs can now be limited to 60MPH rather than 90km/h.

I can believe this. I have a 7.5t tipper and it does 56mph

On a recent journey on a motorway it felt dangerous tbh in that massive fking hgvs were constantly up my arse trying to get past, i quickly realised that its easier to anticipate them coming and let them past. When i would be back behind them they would be clearly pulling away from me while im doing the 56mph.

It wasn't one or two either, it was most of them.

[stupidbutkeen]

m3jappa said:

angoooose said:

I was told that now we've left the EU, HGVs can now be limited to 60MPH rather than 90km/h.

I can believe this. I have a 7.5t tipper and it does 56mph

On a recent journey on a motorway it felt dangerous tbh in that massive fking hgvs were constantly up my arse trying to get past, i quickly realised that its easier to anticipate them coming and let them past. When i would be back behind them they would be clearly pulling away from me while im doing the 56mph.

It wasn't one or two either, it was most of them.

funny enough I shall be in a 7.5t lorry tomorrow.( had a call today that I couldn't fit a 18t into) I am looking forward it tbh. 7.5t are usually a tad bouncy and just do not feel planted with a touch of weight in the back.
As for tacos You may find when a lorry gets its taco calibrated it could have tyres on that need replaced hence new tyres give a 1ish kph boost, but thats hearsay tbh.
I know my lorry gives a touch of overboast when i WOT from around 45mph and will hit around 93kph before the limiter kicks in and takes me back to 90.
Although most of the supermarket lorries are now limited to 50mph and you may find more companys doing that in the quest to save money on fuel.

ps most of the fast lorries I see are irish reg, They seem to have the limiter set for 60mph which is the legal nsl for lorries tbh.

[911hope]

SSBB said:

Highway Code applies even on dual carriageways.

Agreed and it has specific instructions for overtaking on dual carriageways.. which of course few people follow.

[Glenn63]

Sounds like lorry catches car, moves out to overtake, car speeds up leaving lorry out to dry in outside lane. Lorry then pulls back to lane 1, car slows down, pull out to overtake again, car speeds up, repeat for 10 hours and you’ve got a standard shift as a truck driver.

[m3jappa]

stupidbutkeen said:

funny enough I shall be in a 7.5t lorry tomorrow.( had a call today that I couldn't fit a 18t into) I am looking forward it tbh. 7.5t are usually a tad bouncy and just do not feel planted with a touch of weight in the back.
As for tacos You may find when a lorry gets its taco calibrated it could have tyres on that need replaced hence new tyres give a 1ish kph boost, but thats hearsay tbh.
I know my lorry gives a touch of overboast when i WOT from around 45mph and will hit around 93kph before the limiter kicks in and takes me back to 90.
Although most of the supermarket lorries are now limited to 50mph and you may find more companys doing that in the quest to save money on fuel.

ps most of the fast lorries I see are irish reg, They seem to have the limiter set for 60mph which is the legal nsl for lorries tbh.

I have got an isuzu n75 190 and to say its bouncy is an understatement, i have to contemplate bumps because anything thats a bit bad can see everything in the cab flying and me bouncing out the seat it is savage unloaded and loaded its nearly as bad

it is fking quick though, up to 56 it pulls away from most hgv's with ease. Then it hits 56 and they are soon up my arse

[911hope]

Glenn63 said:

Sounds like lorry catches car, moves out to overtake, car speeds up leaving lorry out to dry in outside lane. Lorry then pulls back to lane 1, car slows down, pull out to overtake again, car speeds up, repeat for 10 hours and you’ve got a standard shift as a truck driver.

Except that isn't what the OP described.

[Glenn63]

911hope said:

Glenn63 said:

Sounds like lorry catches car, moves out to overtake, car speeds up leaving lorry out to dry in outside lane. Lorry then pulls back to lane 1, car slows down, pull out to overtake again, car speeds up, repeat for 10 hours and you’ve got a standard shift as a truck driver.

Except that isn't what the OP described.

Sounds like the truck was overtaking then OP sped up matching the trucks speed but slightly ahead so the truck just pulled back behind so not to hold all the other traffic up and stayed close probably to annoy the OP.

[Majorslow]

Van/Lorry should not have been trying to break the limit of 60 for it's class of vehicle on a D/C NSL road anyway.

maybe OP could have pulled further away then settled down to a cruising speed, as you shouldn't really allow yourself to be overtaken by HGV's owing to safety, or just slowly lost speed, allow overtake and just let him get on with tailgating someone else.

Avoiding conflict on the roads is always the best solution, never any winners

[Mandat]

Based on the OP's own description, it sounds like they could have done things differently to avoid being tailgated by a HGV.

In fact, you've got to work pretty hard to find yourself being tailgated by a HGV in free flowing traffic.

[anonymous-user]

Mandat said:

Based on the OP's own description, it sounds like they could have done things differently to avoid being tailgated by a HGV.

In fact, you've got to work pretty hard to find yourself being tailgated by a HGV in free flowing traffic.

Not entirely sure what I couldve done differently tbh. Cars infront of me, a stream of cars to my right (due to leaving average speed zone and entering nsl zone) with no space for me to move over ….

[911hope]

Mandat said:

Based on the OP's own description, it sounds like they could have done things differently to avoid being tailgated by a HGV.

In fact, you've got to work pretty hard to find yourself being tailgated by a HGV in free flowing traffic.

HGVs even tailgate each other on a regular basis on the motorway, rendering themselves blind to the road ahead.

If you are in L1 near their max speed, they will tailgate you (intimidate) to try to get you to speed up. If that doesn't work, they will try to overtake you, using the microscopic speed differential, so it may take several minutes.

When they do overtake, it is normal for the indicate and go method to be used. Not necessary to care about the vehicle approaching in that lane...they need to brake or change lane to prevent the lorry crashing into them.

This is what happens on every journey, in the real world.

Of course driving in L1 at slow speeds if busy is very stressful and dangerous because of this and sensible people avoid it. There is too much reliance on others (in very heavy objects) to save your skin.

[Gary C]

JenAGH67 said:

NortonES2 said:

Any reason why you didn't accelerate upto 70?

That particular area has had 5 crashes in 2 weeks due to people being eager to hit 70mph on exit of the average speed limit zone. I kept to 60mph to keep my wits about me and drive sensibly.

Edited by JenAGH67 on Thursday 4th August 18:23

bks.

accident caused by accelerating to 70 ?

No

Driving badly while accelerating to 70 yes.

It sounds to me if the lorry started the overtake in the 50 ? then you accelerated sedately (as is your right) and left him hanging and had to pull back in ? Sounds as if the lorry was miffed then acted badly.

but I would ask why you didn't know exactly where the lorry was before, when it pulled out etc. More spatial awareness would be good. You should know if a lorry has started an overtake and decide then how to respond rather than leaving someone hanging.

Edited by Gary C on Saturday 6th August 17:57

[WilliamWoollard]

JenAGH67 said:

Hi everyone

I was driving today along a dual carriageway (UK) positioned in the left lane. I was just exiting out of a 50mph average speed zone and had entered a NSL zone, therefore I obviously increased my speed. However, shortly after entering the NSL zone, I glanced out of my right hand mirror and noticed a highways maintenance truck (lorry size) attempting to overtake me and I think it had cars queuing up behind it, he therefore then pulled in unbelievably close behind me and lingered there as if he were annoyed. Am I in the wrong here at all?

For reference my speed was approx a steady 60mph and I wasn’t trying to go faster when I saw the truck in my right hand mirror.

The driver did then overtake multiple cars after this.

Cheers

Edited by JenAGH67 on Thursday 4th August 17:09

Edited by JenAGH67 on Thursday 4th August 17:21

The lorry will have been on his limiter at 56 through the 50 limit. 60 on your Speedo is likely to be 56 on his. Check your mirrors before accelerating. It’s poor form to accelerate when a lorry is attempting to pass you, unless it’s to boot it away into the NSL so he has room to move left into the space you were in.

As he pulled into the lane closely behind you you could have immediately gone into the lane he was in and got out of there.

You should be aware of what’s around you at all times, especially in situations where people are likely to be increasing or decreasing speed or changing lanes.

You can anticipate tipper trucks to drive like their hair is on fire, they all do it.