Car control - Do you know anything that fits the bill?

[Silentz]

OK, first off sorry for YET ANOTHER "what course" post!

Some friends and I are looking to improve our skills and survivability, now we all have powerful RWD cars

We are looking for a course that:

- Does not include us driving our own cars (chicken? yes. tyres are expensive things, and bodywork even more so)
- Involves skid control
- Includes causing, controlling and recovering from oversteer
- Can be done as a group of 3 or 4
- Is preferably in the North West... or at least not in Kent, Norfolk, Fife or any other far-flung corner of this sceptered isle.

I've done the IAM, but it doesn't really cover anything like what we are looking for. I've seen adverts for Don Palmer, Andy Walsh, Carlimits etc etc but they involve driving our own cars. And you can go do track days, but i just dont think we would get the 'education' part we are looking for.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

[Silentz]

Thanks.

Re: Tyre costs - this is the killer really. My tyres are BMW runflats, which are fairly expensive.. however the two friends who are definitely interested have a 911 (fat tyres) and a Jag XK (£250 per corner). Carving a couple of mm off each £250 tyre isn't top of his agenda. It's not necessarily a deal-breaker though.

I do know what you're saying as well - transferring skills from an elise to a two-ton estate or coupe is going to be hard. And the 911 is just going to be totally different.

Any other ideas?