Z-Scale railways

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Stew2000

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2,776 posts

180 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Due to lack of space these days it's difficult to use my OO-scale. so I was thinking about getting a simple Z-scale set to start with. but why are they so expensive?
Does anyone know of any specialist websites?

DieselGriff

5,160 posts

261 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Can't think of any off the top of my head but I would suggest the Warley show in November as there's always a few z specialists there. Personally if I were going to think about a layout then I would go for N Gauge - I know the space saving is not as great as Z but it is still substantially smaller than OO and there is much more choice in terms of trains and accessories.

As regards cost then a lot of people associate size with costs but in reality material costs are only a small % of overall costs. When you design smaller this often means using more specialised parts that often cost more than their larger off the shelf counterparts.

Stew2000

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2,776 posts

180 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Most of the locomotives you can understand being expensive because of the amount of detail.
I'll have a look at N-scale too.

DieselGriff

5,160 posts

261 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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When pricing you also need to take into account the market - supply and demand - the demand for Z or N is substantially smaller than OO in the UK so manufacturers don't benefit from same economies of scale.

Stew2000

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2,776 posts

180 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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That is true.
Most hobbies are costly anyway.
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For now I could try and find a Graham Farish Junior Starter Set (when it's available) and expand it when possible.

Edited by Stew2000 on Sunday 18th September 15:08

DieselGriff

5,160 posts

261 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Antics have a number of starter sets available see here and obviously lots of other retailers as well - modelzone, Ian Allen as well as loads of independents. BH Enterprises are an independent that is dedicated to N Gauge and seem to attend nearly every railway model show in the country.

You've just missed the country's dedicated N Gauge show which is always worth a visit, both for inspiration and for buying. Funnily enough there were a number of Z Gauge layouts as well this year.

You may want to get involved with the N Gauge Forum I've met a couple of the organisers and they do seem a friendly bunch, certainly worth popping in and telling them your plans as I'm sure you'll get good friendly feedback.


Edited for grammar.


Edited by DieselGriff on Sunday 18th September 15:54

richtea78

5,574 posts

160 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Have you considered narrow gauge stuff like 009, my dad started off with a very small 009 layout. I guess it depends what you are into but he likes the scenery stuff more than actually running them

Stew2000

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180 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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The 009 idea sounds interesting. At the moment i'm trolling around ebay for affordable N-gauge.
With not alot of space I like doing small and simple dioramas.


richtea78

5,574 posts

160 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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009 is very interesting if you like scenary.

I have seen several layouts based on small prototypes in 4 foot by 2 foot boards.

I particularly like the slate quarries

The advantage with 009 (or disadvantage depending on your outlook) is that you can scratch build a lot of the locos using n-guage running gear.

http://www.009society.com/mems_layouts.php

Have a look at those for inspiration.

Id love to build one but I lack the time, the skills and the patience to learn!

Vixpy1

42,634 posts

266 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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have you seen T Scale eek

Stew2000

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180 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Vixpy1 said:
have you seen T Scale eek
OMG! it's so tiny!
http://www.hobbiesplus.com.au/t_gauge_.htm

richtea78

5,574 posts

160 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Vixpy1 said:
have you seen T Scale eek
Wow, that is small!

Vixpy1

42,634 posts

266 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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I've not looked at a Model Railway shop for prob 20 years, keep looking nat various bits now

Between that and the Lego Technic sitting on my desk, you lot have a lot to answer for! hehe

richtea78

5,574 posts

160 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Vixpy1 said:
I've not looked at a Model Railway shop for prob 20 years, keep looking nat various bits now

Between that and the Lego Technic sitting on my desk, you lot have a lot to answer for! hehe
Probably best to avoid the Watch forum, at least Lego is relatively cheap!

Nevin

2,999 posts

263 months

Saturday 24th September 2011
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richtea78 said:
Vixpy1 said:
have you seen T Scale eek
Wow, that is small!


Must keep credit card in pocket. For something I so clearly don't need, why do I want it so much?

www.tgauge.co.uk

Stew2000

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2,776 posts

180 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Random silly question time...
I was sorting out my old track and found this one by Lima.
Is it some sort of re-railer?


richtea78

5,574 posts

160 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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Yes thats exactly what its for

Stew2000

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180 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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I got my Ebay bargain today. £43 for an old (very old) Lima N-gauge set.
The engine needed a quick service and now it's great.
All I need to do now is plan a layout and spend lots of money.


drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

213 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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Stew2000 said:
Random silly question time...
I was sorting out my old track and found this one by Lima.
Is it some sort of re-railer?

Yes. If a bogie has the front set on the rear off, the check rails will keep the leading set on whilst the outer guide rails will pull the off rails wheels first on to and the back on to the rail. I've not seen one of those for a long time.

ChrisW_77

101 posts

188 months

Tuesday 4th October 2011
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Seeing as we've drifted from Z to N, here's my work-in-progress N gauge layout: