5" gauge Stanier Duchess steam loco
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Just thought I'd show the latest addition to the family - a 5" gauge live steam scale replica of 46256 Sir William A Stanier FRS named after the designer. Original worked between London Euston and Glasgow 1947 - 1964
My father built this to 90% completion from works drawings and scaling off photos. He died in 2008 and so I thought I'd get someone to finish it.
Lynx model works in Mablethorpe did it - and what a result. At 7ft long it's not the easiest to move...
My father built this to 90% completion from works drawings and scaling off photos. He died in 2008 and so I thought I'd get someone to finish it.
Lynx model works in Mablethorpe did it - and what a result. At 7ft long it's not the easiest to move...
Edited by Dawg on Saturday 9th November 20:54
Never seen that photo of 46256 before. Thanks . It was the very last Stanier pacific to run at the end of September 1964. By December it had been cut up - it really should have been preserved, but the sheer speed that this class of loco were despached by the oxyacetylene torch was quite astonishing. A lot of other types of locos hung around in other scrapyards for at least a couple of years, however Cashmores at Great Bridge were, sadly, super efficient. By early 1965, they'd all gone apart from 3..
At first, i had the idea to finish it, and i completed the cladding with washout plugs around the firebox, however it quickly transpired that there was a lot of fiddly work which really was beyond me - especially as there were no scale drawings available..
As for running - I belong to the Wigan & District Model Engineering Society and we have an extensive track (3 1/2" and 5" gauge) at Haigh Hall. I'll be running it in the spring. It's already been hydraulic and steam tested by Lynx however I have to get this done again at the club.
Roll on March!
At first, i had the idea to finish it, and i completed the cladding with washout plugs around the firebox, however it quickly transpired that there was a lot of fiddly work which really was beyond me - especially as there were no scale drawings available..
As for running - I belong to the Wigan & District Model Engineering Society and we have an extensive track (3 1/2" and 5" gauge) at Haigh Hall. I'll be running it in the spring. It's already been hydraulic and steam tested by Lynx however I have to get this done again at the club.
Roll on March!
Edited by Dawg on Sunday 10th November 18:27
Dawg said:
Never seen that photo of 46256 before. Thanks . It was the very last Stanier pacific to run at the end of September 1964. By December it had been cut up - it really should have been preserved, but the sheer speed that this class of loco were despached by the oxyacetylene torch was quite astonishing. A lot of other types of locos hung around in other scrapyards for at least a couple of years, however Cashmores at Great Bridge were, sadly, super efficient. By early 1965, they'd all gone apart from 3..
At first, i had the idea to finish it, and i completed the cladding with washout plugs around the firebox, however it quickly transpired that there was a lot of fiddly work which really was beyond me - especially as there were no scale drawings available..
As for running - I belong to the Wigan & District Model Engineering Society and we have an extensive track (3 1/2" and 5" gauge) at Haigh Hall. I'll be running it in the spring. It's already been hydraulic and steam tested by Lynx however I have to get this done again at the club.
Roll on March!
The photo came from a retired Rugby Driver who got it from another Rugby man who actually took, my print is is a second generation copy of the original. It has been posted online elsewhere once or twice though! There is another somewhere taken on the same day from a different angle, if I can find it I'll post it on here.At first, i had the idea to finish it, and i completed the cladding with washout plugs around the firebox, however it quickly transpired that there was a lot of fiddly work which really was beyond me - especially as there were no scale drawings available..
As for running - I belong to the Wigan & District Model Engineering Society and we have an extensive track (3 1/2" and 5" gauge) at Haigh Hall. I'll be running it in the spring. It's already been hydraulic and steam tested by Lynx however I have to get this done again at the club.
Roll on March!
Edited by Dawg on Sunday 10th November 18:27
By '64 the remaining Big Uns were often seen at Rugby on parcels trains and the odd overnight freight ;-)
Here's another but the caption says it's taken at Camden.
46256, Sir William Stanier FRS. by steventoogood53, on Flickr
46256, Sir William Stanier FRS. by steventoogood53, on Flickr
Absolutely stunning.
I have relatives who used to build & run (what I assume was 5" guage) locomotives at the model railway in Quainton, Buckinghamshire when I was a kid- I was fortunate enough to get the opportunity to drive various steam & electric ones after the circuit had closed to the public for the evening (an incredible experience, especially at that age!) and I can only wonder at the level of skill and dedication required to build such a thing.
Would love to see more photos!
I have relatives who used to build & run (what I assume was 5" guage) locomotives at the model railway in Quainton, Buckinghamshire when I was a kid- I was fortunate enough to get the opportunity to drive various steam & electric ones after the circuit had closed to the public for the evening (an incredible experience, especially at that age!) and I can only wonder at the level of skill and dedication required to build such a thing.
Would love to see more photos!
I'll get some more pics up this weekend - it's currently boxed up in my front room
Weight? Not sure, but I need at least one other (fit) person to move it. I have a portable hydraulic lift to get it into the back of my car.
My dad started this back in 1980 - it followed a 3 1/2" gauge Stanier pacific Duchess Of Hamilton and an 0-4-0 5" gauge Ajax tank loco which I still have and are about to be refurbished - I can do this at least... Anyhow, he had a massive heart attack in '84 when he was only 44 and was not in good shape after that. Two more heart attacks and a stroke hindered any progress - he completed a 5" gauge 0-4-0 saddle tank I started when I was 14.
Yes, he was a hugely talented man - at the same time he started this loco he started a Union Pacific Big Boy 4-8-8-4 in 3 1/2" gauge. He had done about 60% of that - I had to sell because I could not afford to have it completed (probably £20k's worth of work) and it was starting to deteriorate in the garage.. I'll dig out a photo..
Weight? Not sure, but I need at least one other (fit) person to move it. I have a portable hydraulic lift to get it into the back of my car.
My dad started this back in 1980 - it followed a 3 1/2" gauge Stanier pacific Duchess Of Hamilton and an 0-4-0 5" gauge Ajax tank loco which I still have and are about to be refurbished - I can do this at least... Anyhow, he had a massive heart attack in '84 when he was only 44 and was not in good shape after that. Two more heart attacks and a stroke hindered any progress - he completed a 5" gauge 0-4-0 saddle tank I started when I was 14.
Yes, he was a hugely talented man - at the same time he started this loco he started a Union Pacific Big Boy 4-8-8-4 in 3 1/2" gauge. He had done about 60% of that - I had to sell because I could not afford to have it completed (probably £20k's worth of work) and it was starting to deteriorate in the garage.. I'll dig out a photo..
Dawg said:
I'll get some more pics up this weekend - it's currently boxed up in my front room
Weight? Not sure, but I need at least one other (fit) person to move it. I have a portable hydraulic lift to get it into the back of my car.
My dad started this back in 1980 - it followed a 3 1/2" gauge Stanier pacific Duchess Of Hamilton and an 0-4-0 5" gauge Ajax tank loco which I still have and are about to be refurbished - I can do this at least... Anyhow, he had a massive heart attack in '84 when he was only 44 and was not in good shape after that. Two more heart attacks and a stroke hindered any progress - he completed a 5" gauge 0-4-0 saddle tank I started when I was 14.
Yes, he was a hugely talented man - at the same time he started this loco he started a Union Pacific Big Boy 4-8-8-4 in 3 1/2" gauge. He had done about 60% of that - I had to sell because I could not afford to have it completed (probably £20k's worth of work) and it was starting to deteriorate in the garage.. I'll dig out a photo..
Amazing work, and a great legacy from your father.Weight? Not sure, but I need at least one other (fit) person to move it. I have a portable hydraulic lift to get it into the back of my car.
My dad started this back in 1980 - it followed a 3 1/2" gauge Stanier pacific Duchess Of Hamilton and an 0-4-0 5" gauge Ajax tank loco which I still have and are about to be refurbished - I can do this at least... Anyhow, he had a massive heart attack in '84 when he was only 44 and was not in good shape after that. Two more heart attacks and a stroke hindered any progress - he completed a 5" gauge 0-4-0 saddle tank I started when I was 14.
Yes, he was a hugely talented man - at the same time he started this loco he started a Union Pacific Big Boy 4-8-8-4 in 3 1/2" gauge. He had done about 60% of that - I had to sell because I could not afford to have it completed (probably £20k's worth of work) and it was starting to deteriorate in the garage.. I'll dig out a photo..
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