GB: Academy : DR_GN
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have to say many of the pics I've taken have been fit for the bin but last night I tried my little tripod and macro and they worked far better, as you say
All of dr_gn's pictures have far exceeded mine though
More stuff to learn and well worth the learning of
doc you say the wheel well green is darkening as you play with the surface, is there a varnish finish that might lighten the effects at all?
I'm blimmin' glad the Typhoon has more basic detailing for the doors than the Tempest, it would keep me up all night trying to rework those!
All of dr_gn's pictures have far exceeded mine though
More stuff to learn and well worth the learning of
doc you say the wheel well green is darkening as you play with the surface, is there a varnish finish that might lighten the effects at all?
I'm blimmin' glad the Typhoon has more basic detailing for the doors than the Tempest, it would keep me up all night trying to rework those!
Perdu,
As the previous poster said: Tripod and self timer. I use a normal tungsten Anglepoise lamp for light. Daylight is best, but there isn't any at the moment!
Light varnish? Yup, but I've only just eliminated getting a lightening effect! It looked terrible on the '109 and had to be re-coated with Klear before getting it better at second attempt.
As the previous poster said: Tripod and self timer. I use a normal tungsten Anglepoise lamp for light. Daylight is best, but there isn't any at the moment!
Light varnish? Yup, but I've only just eliminated getting a lightening effect! It looked terrible on the '109 and had to be re-coated with Klear before getting it better at second attempt.
I see what you mean about the instrument panel, it should be a little towards the back but I expect this is to allow the substructure that carries the reflector sight to sit just in front of it. I'm just making up that part for the Tiffie today I hope (plans - mice - men - etcetera!)
I think it will all pull together when closed up
Still looks good
far busier than mine but I have to draw a line, with my present eyesight restrictions
Didn't realise I have become as blindasabat
I think it will all pull together when closed up
Still looks good
far busier than mine but I have to draw a line, with my present eyesight restrictions
Didn't realise I have become as blindasabat
perdu said:
I see what you mean about the instrument panel, it should be a little towards the back but I expect this is to allow the substructure that carries the reflector sight to sit just in front of it. I'm just making up that part for the Tiffie today I hope (plans - mice - men - etcetera!)
I think it will all pull together when closed up
Still looks good
far busier than mine but I have to draw a line, with my present eyesight restrictions
Didn't realise I have become as blindasabat
Having looked a bit further, what makes it seem bad is the fact that the area underneath the windscreen is pretty much solid on the Academy kit. It should actually be completely cut away so that the front of the cockpit opening is defined by the lower edges of the windscreen:I think it will all pull together when closed up
Still looks good
far busier than mine but I have to draw a line, with my present eyesight restrictions
Didn't realise I have become as blindasabat
The instrument panel is then obviously much more visible because it's not hidden underneath a cover. I did this tonight, and it looks better. Probably still a couple of mm out, but it'll have to do: nothing much to be done considering how the detail kit fits together.
BTW the Tempest II and Typhoon are different in this area.
They are you are 100% rght there
The Tiffie's framework for the reflector sight seems more prominent
as per the "very black in there" picture I posted ages ago
Since the whole front end structure is somewhat elongated on the Tempest you would expect a different structural fix around there
Anyway
You are still looking to be making another good'un
The Tiffie's framework for the reflector sight seems more prominent
as per the "very black in there" picture I posted ages ago
Since the whole front end structure is somewhat elongated on the Tempest you would expect a different structural fix around there
Anyway
You are still looking to be making another good'un
Hawkers moved very slowly from tube framing to monocoque. I was chatting to someone at my model club on Monday and he said that they more or less used a similar spaceframe in the cockpit area from the Fury bi-plane right through to the Tempesy and only went completely monocoque with the Fury/Sea Fury.
Almost the first thing I noticed when I started on the Typhoon was that lack of an instrument coaming in the front end, so I cut away the Frog plastic to be clear under the windscreen.
It makes a huge difference in practise!
Sorry
I ought to have mentioned it to all you guys on the GB, it is similar on both machines but the Typhoon has a more noticable tubular structure where "ordinary airyplanes" have dash coaming
The whole point of making notes is to help others after all.
It makes a huge difference in practise!
Sorry
I ought to have mentioned it to all you guys on the GB, it is similar on both machines but the Typhoon has a more noticable tubular structure where "ordinary airyplanes" have dash coaming
The whole point of making notes is to help others after all.
perdu said:
Almost the first thing I noticed when I started on the Typhoon was that lack of an instrument coaming in the front end, so I cut away the Frog plastic to be clear under the windscreen.
It makes a huge difference in practise!
Sorry
I ought to have mentioned it to all you guys on the GB, it is similar on both machines but the Typhoon has a more noticable tubular structure where "ordinary airyplanes" have dash coaming
The whole point of making notes is to help others after all.
...I think there are only about 5 people actually building one!It makes a huge difference in practise!
Sorry
I ought to have mentioned it to all you guys on the GB, it is similar on both machines but the Typhoon has a more noticable tubular structure where "ordinary airyplanes" have dash coaming
The whole point of making notes is to help others after all.
perdu said:
Almost the first thing I noticed when I started on the Typhoon was that lack of an instrument coaming in the front end, so I cut away the Frog plastic to be clear under the windscreen.
It makes a huge difference in practise!
Sorry
I ought to have mentioned it to all you guys on the GB, it is similar on both machines but the Typhoon has a more noticable tubular structure where "ordinary airyplanes" have dash coaming
The whole point of making notes is to help others after all.
I think what I'll do is cut the blind flying rectangle off the Resin Art panel, detail it a bit and then glue it over the existing, too far back panel. This will move it forward a bit, and also make the Academy panel more realistic.It makes a huge difference in practise!
Sorry
I ought to have mentioned it to all you guys on the GB, it is similar on both machines but the Typhoon has a more noticable tubular structure where "ordinary airyplanes" have dash coaming
The whole point of making notes is to help others after all.
Yertis said:
dr_gn said:
...I think there are only about 5 people actually building one!
Well I'm still in, although you two have set the bar pretty high for me! 
It's good to have such high standards to aim for – one of my questions was going to be "what colour is the coaming?". Now I know.
I'll update the Tiffie thread this evening, spent today in A&E for Xrays. It seems clavicles don't bend well.
Hope everything OK with Perdu! A&E is the worst place to wait. And it usually is a wait.
So I cut the central instrument panel out of the Resin Art set and glued it onto my already fitted one to move it back a bit (retaining the angled side pieces of the original) I also used 6 of RedFirecrackers excellent instrument decals to make it even more noticable! In conjunction with the opened up instrument panel cover, It all looks much better now. Control column is posed forward (nearly touching the compass!) because the elevators will be drooped.
I've decided to use the Resin Art acetate canopy becasue it gives less distortion, and looks good with a coat of Klear:
Next job, final sanding and rescribing. Then paint, weathering and finished. Learning a lot from this one, which is good.
So I cut the central instrument panel out of the Resin Art set and glued it onto my already fitted one to move it back a bit (retaining the angled side pieces of the original) I also used 6 of RedFirecrackers excellent instrument decals to make it even more noticable! In conjunction with the opened up instrument panel cover, It all looks much better now. Control column is posed forward (nearly touching the compass!) because the elevators will be drooped.
I've decided to use the Resin Art acetate canopy becasue it gives less distortion, and looks good with a coat of Klear:
Next job, final sanding and rescribing. Then paint, weathering and finished. Learning a lot from this one, which is good.
Edited by dr_gn on Saturday 19th February 00:12
Really nice work.
FYI
Posted this is BTP
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/xforums/topic.asp?h=0...
I know it's off topic but your thread is the most active and would gain the most exposure, there is a nice colour shot of a Walrus in the collection.
FYI
Posted this is BTP
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/xforums/topic.asp?h=0...
I know it's off topic but your thread is the most active and would gain the most exposure, there is a nice colour shot of a Walrus in the collection.
That does look the business
I like the canopy too, far better than any moulded polystyrene one
I'll be moulding mine too and adding the roof bulge that allows the rear view mirror to be out of the airflow
The reflector sight looks nice, a definite bonus from your resin kit and RFs instruments are dead cool too
(mine will be less impressive but it'll have to do)
Seems I snapped the very outer end of the collar bone last Monday, I found something sticking up, pressed down on it and made it go where it should have. Lucky huh! Lots of sling work now, just when I don't need it.
Three hours fifty eight minutes in the car park at the Hospital
Two more minutes and we'd have been up another quid
I like the canopy too, far better than any moulded polystyrene one
I'll be moulding mine too and adding the roof bulge that allows the rear view mirror to be out of the airflow
The reflector sight looks nice, a definite bonus from your resin kit and RFs instruments are dead cool too
(mine will be less impressive but it'll have to do)
Seems I snapped the very outer end of the collar bone last Monday, I found something sticking up, pressed down on it and made it go where it should have. Lucky huh! Lots of sling work now, just when I don't need it.
Three hours fifty eight minutes in the car park at the Hospital
Two more minutes and we'd have been up another quid
Gokartmozart said:
Really nice work.
FYI
Posted this is BTP
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/xforums/topic.asp?h=0...
I know it's off topic but your thread is the most active and would gain the most exposure, there is a nice colour shot of a Walrus in the collection.
Thanks for posting those they are a great find. The Walrus is even in the 3 tone camo I wanted to model!FYI
Posted this is BTP
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/xforums/topic.asp?h=0...
I know it's off topic but your thread is the most active and would gain the most exposure, there is a nice colour shot of a Walrus in the collection.
Some good illustrations of weathering in amongst those too. Someone was asking about the validity of pre-shading panel lines, there's a desert camo Spitfire in there that shows it up quite well.
Cheers
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