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Raptor 90 with Quick UK upgrades, OS 90 with Twin Viper head & pump, Radix main blades.
Tamjets F-18F Super Hornet with Jetcat Titan 34 kgs thrust.
HPI Savage with reverse, transmission, Suspension, brake & clutch upgrades.
(Apologies, only picture I have of the Savage).
This winters project, Skymaster F-16.....
Should finish to this:
Tamjets F-18F Super Hornet with Jetcat Titan 34 kgs thrust.
HPI Savage with reverse, transmission, Suspension, brake & clutch upgrades.
(Apologies, only picture I have of the Savage).
This winters project, Skymaster F-16.....
Should finish to this:
PeetBee said:
wacattack said:
where do you race mate?
My local club is in Caldicot, but I did a couple of mid west region meetings this year before I effectively banned myself by going lipo!Was hoping to do the nationals next year, but funds aren't going to allow that
I will be doing at least one more micro national this season though.
The good thing about lipo is that once you have a couple of packs, they should see you through for quite a while. NiHM's, you need several packs, and you are lucky if they last a full season and maintain their performance
I have a question to all those guys that fly jets. I find them very impressive from a technological and engineering standpoint. The turbines themselves are beautifully made and the electronics that drive them very capable. Tuck all this into a nice looking scale or semi scale fuselage and they really are the business, especially the noise...!
The thing I can't get is what you actually do with them. Having seen them fly on numerous occasions, they seem all but useless in that they are so damned fast all you can do is fly them in circles and back and forth along the flightline with a few multi-point rolls thrown in for good measure.
I'd love to own one, but can't help but think I would be disappointed with the flying experience. OK, horses for courses and all that but seeing as you will no doubt have started off with something snaller and IC powered at some point that you could chuck around and have some fun with, how do the jets compare...?
For me a turbine heli is where it's at. You get the noise but also the chance to appreciate it in flight for more than the one second in 20 you get with a jet screaming by...!
PS: I am not trying to be arsey - am genuinely interested...!
The thing I can't get is what you actually do with them. Having seen them fly on numerous occasions, they seem all but useless in that they are so damned fast all you can do is fly them in circles and back and forth along the flightline with a few multi-point rolls thrown in for good measure.
I'd love to own one, but can't help but think I would be disappointed with the flying experience. OK, horses for courses and all that but seeing as you will no doubt have started off with something snaller and IC powered at some point that you could chuck around and have some fun with, how do the jets compare...?
For me a turbine heli is where it's at. You get the noise but also the chance to appreciate it in flight for more than the one second in 20 you get with a jet screaming by...!
PS: I am not trying to be arsey - am genuinely interested...!
wacattack said:
Will be interesting to see if the BRCA allow Lipo for next season.
The good thing about lipo is that once you have a couple of packs, they should see you through for quite a while. NiHM's, you need several packs, and you are lucky if they last a full season and maintain their performance
A proposal has been sent in for 1/10th off road to adopt the current touring car list,with the addition of lipo saddles that meet the same spec. So fingers crossed it'll get voted in at the AGM later this month.The good thing about lipo is that once you have a couple of packs, they should see you through for quite a while. NiHM's, you need several packs, and you are lucky if they last a full season and maintain their performance
It's sooo simple compared to nimhs, another feature I like is being able to charge the cells up days prior to the meeting and just run them.
I've had nimhs vent after just a few uses that have effectively made them 5 cell packs, quite a difference - 2 packs of lipos that'll last a couple of years or goodness knows how many packs of nimhs in the same period!
I like the nice relaxed attitude to the rules the micro section have. Any lipo is fine (no list) as long as it's 7.4v.
Roop said:
I have a question to all those guys that fly jets. I find them very impressive from a technological and engineering standpoint. The turbines themselves are beautifully made and the electronics that drive them very capable. Tuck all this into a nice looking scale or semi scale fuselage and they really are the business, especially the noise...!
The thing I can't get is what you actually do with them. Having seen them fly on numerous occasions, they seem all but useless in that they are so damned fast all you can do is fly them in circles and back and forth along the flightline with a few multi-point rolls thrown in for good measure.
I'd love to own one, but can't help but think I would be disappointed with the flying experience. OK, horses for courses and all that but seeing as you will no doubt have started off with something snaller and IC powered at some point that you could chuck around and have some fun with, how do the jets compare...?
For me a turbine heli is where it's at. You get the noise but also the chance to appreciate it in flight for more than the one second in 20 you get with a jet screaming by...!
PS: I am not trying to be arsey - am genuinely interested...!
Have to agree with that, I've always hankered after a jet, but not that long back I built a one off "thing" that was ludicrously quick, like a pylon racer on steroids - I got bored of it after 3 or flights and it hasn't flown since. Later I got inquisitive again and built a scale electric jet - which also bored me inside a few flights. These were extremely quick for a non-turbine aircraft so I can't see me getting any use out of a proper one other than for technical achievement.The thing I can't get is what you actually do with them. Having seen them fly on numerous occasions, they seem all but useless in that they are so damned fast all you can do is fly them in circles and back and forth along the flightline with a few multi-point rolls thrown in for good measure.
I'd love to own one, but can't help but think I would be disappointed with the flying experience. OK, horses for courses and all that but seeing as you will no doubt have started off with something snaller and IC powered at some point that you could chuck around and have some fun with, how do the jets compare...?
For me a turbine heli is where it's at. You get the noise but also the chance to appreciate it in flight for more than the one second in 20 you get with a jet screaming by...!
PS: I am not trying to be arsey - am genuinely interested...!
Roop said:
I have a question to all those guys that fly jets. I find them very impressive from a technological and engineering standpoint. The turbines themselves are beautifully made and the electronics that drive them very capable. Tuck all this into a nice looking scale or semi scale fuselage and they really are the business, especially the noise...!
The thing I can't get is what you actually do with them. Having seen them fly on numerous occasions, they seem all but useless in that they are so damned fast all you can do is fly them in circles and back and forth along the flightline with a few multi-point rolls thrown in for good measure.
I'd love to own one, but can't help but think I would be disappointed with the flying experience. OK, horses for courses and all that but seeing as you will no doubt have started off with something snaller and IC powered at some point that you could chuck around and have some fun with, how do the jets compare...?
For me a turbine heli is where it's at. You get the noise but also the chance to appreciate it in flight for more than the one second in 20 you get with a jet screaming by...!
PS: I am not trying to be arsey - am genuinely interested...!
I suppose its down to whatever interests the individual, jets are faster than IC, model or real time, You'll get to see much more of a Spitfire over Duxford than you will an F-16 over Fairford.The thing I can't get is what you actually do with them. Having seen them fly on numerous occasions, they seem all but useless in that they are so damned fast all you can do is fly them in circles and back and forth along the flightline with a few multi-point rolls thrown in for good measure.
I'd love to own one, but can't help but think I would be disappointed with the flying experience. OK, horses for courses and all that but seeing as you will no doubt have started off with something snaller and IC powered at some point that you could chuck around and have some fun with, how do the jets compare...?
For me a turbine heli is where it's at. You get the noise but also the chance to appreciate it in flight for more than the one second in 20 you get with a jet screaming by...!
PS: I am not trying to be arsey - am genuinely interested...!
As an engineer the build interests me more, I've built over 20 IC's, all scale but got bored after a few flights of each & moved on to another type, bit like cars I suppose!
The F-16 will be my 2nd jet, unlike all the IC's, I kept the F-18.
Turbine Heli is an unexplored area for me so far but the Raptor 90 is a handful on a less than perfect day for all but the Pro. Like the jet though the realism from the turbine from what I've seen is a bonus, I also dislike the unrealistic IC engine note emitted from all but the best/expensive scale engine.
Jets are the way forward for my interest personally, the turbine technology with ECU programming & datalogging, digital dual receivers with Gyro/GPS/Flight Datalogging, build technology coping with high stress factors gives the builder a challenge whereas the IC airframe & tech is basic to say the least.
As ever, there are pilots and there are show pilots, a good show pilot will keep the jet tight within the "arena" for the crowd to see.
Check the site below, plenty of jet video links that in turn link to IC stuff & compare.
http://www.skymasterjet.com/index2.htm
Edited by roger1197 on Wednesday 8th October 00:50
Thanks for the reply Roger. I too am interested in the technology that goes into these models. I have a great interest in realtime downlinking of flight data from aircraft too. As you say, there are so many more aspects that need to be addressed over a 'regular' r/c model, many of which are for flight safety alone. I'd love to see a jet up close to see how they are operated and such. I have 'flown' one on my RealFlight simulator (not quite the same I know). Once you get used to the speeds it's OK, but you don't get the full realism nor the induced panic factor of having £5k+ worth of your hard earned whizzing about the sky in front of you.
A turbine helicopter is the next step for me as it's a logical step-up. The helicopter mechanics are similar to those of a high-end IC model and all the fundamentals are the same whereas a jet aircraft is night and day when compared to my .46 powered C182...! I am not sure at all that I could safely make the latter jump, but with the helis I'd be fine - especially as bigger = more inertia = more stable.
This said, what are the turbine trainer aircraft like...? The sort of twin-boom jobs with high aspect ratio wings and such...? I saw one fly at a show a few years back in the UK and it looked pretty docile in that it could fly nice and slow, but you could still stand it on it's tail and go like a loon if you wanted, although top speed and looks were nothing like those of the scale jet fighters. I must say I was a little off-put when another jet aircraft at the same show seemingly spontaneously combusted during startup. The guys starting it had an extinguisher, fortunately.
Regards the helis and sticking my neck out for a turbine, I would like to bridge the gap a little by going for one of the larger scale R22's powered by a gasoline motor first, before going the whole way to a turbine. Will get there one day, but with 20+ 30 and 60 sized IC helicopters in my house already, I don't have the space right now, nor a car capable of transporting such large models.
A turbine helicopter is the next step for me as it's a logical step-up. The helicopter mechanics are similar to those of a high-end IC model and all the fundamentals are the same whereas a jet aircraft is night and day when compared to my .46 powered C182...! I am not sure at all that I could safely make the latter jump, but with the helis I'd be fine - especially as bigger = more inertia = more stable.
This said, what are the turbine trainer aircraft like...? The sort of twin-boom jobs with high aspect ratio wings and such...? I saw one fly at a show a few years back in the UK and it looked pretty docile in that it could fly nice and slow, but you could still stand it on it's tail and go like a loon if you wanted, although top speed and looks were nothing like those of the scale jet fighters. I must say I was a little off-put when another jet aircraft at the same show seemingly spontaneously combusted during startup. The guys starting it had an extinguisher, fortunately.
Regards the helis and sticking my neck out for a turbine, I would like to bridge the gap a little by going for one of the larger scale R22's powered by a gasoline motor first, before going the whole way to a turbine. Will get there one day, but with 20+ 30 and 60 sized IC helicopters in my house already, I don't have the space right now, nor a car capable of transporting such large models.
Roop,
The trainer jet is a must, you need to be familiar with starting/shutting down procedures for the turbine, the airframe is loaded with kerosene, compressed air, propane and LiPo's, a terrorists dream.
The fire you witnessed would be a hot start where the ignition sequence has failed 1st time round but ignited on the 2nd firing the unused fuel, its a situation you have to be prepared for but avoidable if the rules are adhered to.
The trainer jets are slow for that reason, to give you time to adjust to the characteristics of jet thrust etc.
Where are you based?
The trainer jet is a must, you need to be familiar with starting/shutting down procedures for the turbine, the airframe is loaded with kerosene, compressed air, propane and LiPo's, a terrorists dream.
The fire you witnessed would be a hot start where the ignition sequence has failed 1st time round but ignited on the 2nd firing the unused fuel, its a situation you have to be prepared for but avoidable if the rules are adhered to.
The trainer jets are slow for that reason, to give you time to adjust to the characteristics of jet thrust etc.
Where are you based?
roger1197 said:
Roop,
The trainer jet is a must, you need to be familiar with starting/shutting down procedures for the turbine, the airframe is loaded with kerosene, compressed air, propane and LiPo's, a terrorists dream.
The fire you witnessed would be a hot start where the ignition sequence has failed 1st time round but ignited on the 2nd firing the unused fuel, its a situation you have to be prepared for but avoidable if the rules are adhered to.
The trainer jets are slow for that reason, to give you time to adjust to the characteristics of jet thrust etc.
Where are you based?
Half way between Geneva and Lausanne. There's a big r/c jet show on each year somewhere in CH. I should go find it next year. It'd have to be a heli though as the places for flying jet fixed wing here are pretty limited (due to noise restrictions, not space - typically Swiss, but I do understand and it's fair enough).The trainer jet is a must, you need to be familiar with starting/shutting down procedures for the turbine, the airframe is loaded with kerosene, compressed air, propane and LiPo's, a terrorists dream.
The fire you witnessed would be a hot start where the ignition sequence has failed 1st time round but ignited on the 2nd firing the unused fuel, its a situation you have to be prepared for but avoidable if the rules are adhered to.
The trainer jets are slow for that reason, to give you time to adjust to the characteristics of jet thrust etc.
Where are you based?
FunkyNige said:
roger1197 said:
Raptor 90 with Quick UK upgrades, OS 90 with Twin Viper head & pump, Radix main blades.
Quick question - why has it got a tail rotor and counter rotating blades?Edited by roger1197 on Thursday 9th October 00:30
Roop said:
roger1197 said:
Roop,
The trainer jet is a must, you need to be familiar with starting/shutting down procedures for the turbine, the airframe is loaded with kerosene, compressed air, propane and LiPo's, a terrorists dream.
The fire you witnessed would be a hot start where the ignition sequence has failed 1st time round but ignited on the 2nd firing the unused fuel, its a situation you have to be prepared for but avoidable if the rules are adhered to.
The trainer jets are slow for that reason, to give you time to adjust to the characteristics of jet thrust etc.
Where are you based?
Half way between Geneva and Lausanne. There's a big r/c jet show on each year somewhere in CH. I should go find it next year. It'd have to be a heli though as the places for flying jet fixed wing here are pretty limited (due to noise restrictions, not space - typically Swiss, but I do understand and it's fair enough).The trainer jet is a must, you need to be familiar with starting/shutting down procedures for the turbine, the airframe is loaded with kerosene, compressed air, propane and LiPo's, a terrorists dream.
The fire you witnessed would be a hot start where the ignition sequence has failed 1st time round but ignited on the 2nd firing the unused fuel, its a situation you have to be prepared for but avoidable if the rules are adhered to.
The trainer jets are slow for that reason, to give you time to adjust to the characteristics of jet thrust etc.
Where are you based?
being put together, I will check and let you have the link.
roger1197 said:
Roop said:
roger1197 said:
Roop,
The trainer jet is a must, you need to be familiar with starting/shutting down procedures for the turbine, the airframe is loaded with kerosene, compressed air, propane and LiPo's, a terrorists dream.
The fire you witnessed would be a hot start where the ignition sequence has failed 1st time round but ignited on the 2nd firing the unused fuel, its a situation you have to be prepared for but avoidable if the rules are adhered to.
The trainer jets are slow for that reason, to give you time to adjust to the characteristics of jet thrust etc.
Where are you based?
Half way between Geneva and Lausanne. There's a big r/c jet show on each year somewhere in CH. I should go find it next year. It'd have to be a heli though as the places for flying jet fixed wing here are pretty limited (due to noise restrictions, not space - typically Swiss, but I do understand and it's fair enough).The trainer jet is a must, you need to be familiar with starting/shutting down procedures for the turbine, the airframe is loaded with kerosene, compressed air, propane and LiPo's, a terrorists dream.
The fire you witnessed would be a hot start where the ignition sequence has failed 1st time round but ignited on the 2nd firing the unused fuel, its a situation you have to be prepared for but avoidable if the rules are adhered to.
The trainer jets are slow for that reason, to give you time to adjust to the characteristics of jet thrust etc.
Where are you based?
being put together, I will check and let you have the link.
Roop said:
roger1197 said:
Roop said:
roger1197 said:
Roop,
The trainer jet is a must, you need to be familiar with starting/shutting down procedures for the turbine, the airframe is loaded with kerosene, compressed air, propane and LiPo's, a terrorists dream.
The fire you witnessed would be a hot start where the ignition sequence has failed 1st time round but ignited on the 2nd firing the unused fuel, its a situation you have to be prepared for but avoidable if the rules are adhered to.
The trainer jets are slow for that reason, to give you time to adjust to the characteristics of jet thrust etc.
Where are you based?
Half way between Geneva and Lausanne. There's a big r/c jet show on each year somewhere in CH. I should go find it next year. It'd have to be a heli though as the places for flying jet fixed wing here are pretty limited (due to noise restrictions, not space - typically Swiss, but I do understand and it's fair enough).The trainer jet is a must, you need to be familiar with starting/shutting down procedures for the turbine, the airframe is loaded with kerosene, compressed air, propane and LiPo's, a terrorists dream.
The fire you witnessed would be a hot start where the ignition sequence has failed 1st time round but ignited on the 2nd firing the unused fuel, its a situation you have to be prepared for but avoidable if the rules are adhered to.
The trainer jets are slow for that reason, to give you time to adjust to the characteristics of jet thrust etc.
Where are you based?
being put together, I will check and let you have the link.
http://www.airtoi.com/ljet.htm
roger1197 said:
FunkyNige said:
roger1197 said:
Raptor 90 with Quick UK upgrades, OS 90 with Twin Viper head & pump, Radix main blades.
Quick question - why has it got a tail rotor and counter rotating blades?The contra heli set-up looks like this....
Edited by roger1197 on Thursday 9th October 00:30
roger1197 said:
roger1197 said:
FunkyNige said:
roger1197 said:
Raptor 90 with Quick UK upgrades, OS 90 with Twin Viper head & pump, Radix main blades.
Quick question - why has it got a tail rotor and counter rotating blades?The contra heli set-up looks like this....
Edited by roger1197 on Thursday 9th October 00:30
Edited by Roop on Friday 10th October 07:45
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