Airfix 1:24th Scale mossie - CAD on youtube
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Ayahuasca said:
Eric Mc said:
I reckon it would take me 100 years to build that Mossie - seeing as it's taking me months to build a "simple" 1/72 Skua.
You sure you are not stuck becuse you can't find the gull wings and the Jumo engine in the kit?633 Squadron on ITV4 now... according to Wiki' they used 8 real Mossies in the filming and there's plenty of weathering apparent 
The Mosquitos used in the film were:
RS709 - flown in the film
RS712 - flown
RS715 - cockpit section only
TA639 - flown
TA719 - flown
TJ118 - cockpit section only
TV959 - at Bovington Airfield, but was not flown
TW117 - flown
The Mosquitos used in the film were:
RS709 - flown in the film
RS712 - flown
RS715 - cockpit section only
TA639 - flown
TA719 - flown
TJ118 - cockpit section only
TV959 - at Bovington Airfield, but was not flown
TW117 - flown
Edited by RichB on Wednesday 30th December 20:53
RichB said:
633 Squadron on ITV4 now... according to Wiki' they used 8 real Mossies in the filming and there's plenty of weathering apparent
The Mosquitos used in the film were:
RS709 - flown in the film
RS712 - flown
RS715 - cockpit section only
TA639 - flown
TA719 - flown
TJ118 - cockpit section only
TV959 - at Bovington Airfield, but was not flown
TW117 - flown
The Mossies were specially painted up for the film. The WW2 colours and "weathering" you see would have been applied by the studio art and props department. Prior to filming, the Mossies were in the trainer sceme in use at the time of painted aluminium and yellow bands on the fuselage and wings.The Mosquitos used in the film were:
RS709 - flown in the film
RS712 - flown
RS715 - cockpit section only
TA639 - flown
TA719 - flown
TJ118 - cockpit section only
TV959 - at Bovington Airfield, but was not flown
TW117 - flown
Edited by RichB on Wednesday 30th December 20:53
Edited by Eric Mc on Wednesday 30th December 23:07
In actual fact, I was a bit sweeping in my comments. The Mossies were in a variety of colours before being repainted for the film. Here's TW117 at the 1961 Farnborough Air Show. You can see it is actually in a camouflage scheme. However,. it is a gloss scheme (as opposed to the normal WW2 matt scheme) and it carries post-war style roundels and serial numbers.
In the 1950s, most RAF camouflage was of a gloss variety for ease of maintenance. Matt colours did not really return until the toning down of markings in the 1970s.
Here's TA719 as she is now. Although she was refurbished in the mid 2000s for display at Duxford, the colours she now wears are the colours she wore prior to "633 Squadron".
My point still stands in that, the colours the aircraft wore in the film were specially applied for filming purposes.
In the 1950s, most RAF camouflage was of a gloss variety for ease of maintenance. Matt colours did not really return until the toning down of markings in the 1970s.
Here's TA719 as she is now. Although she was refurbished in the mid 2000s for display at Duxford, the colours she now wears are the colours she wore prior to "633 Squadron".
My point still stands in that, the colours the aircraft wore in the film were specially applied for filming purposes.
Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 31st December 08:19
It's been ages since I saw 633 sqn but I dont remember seeing any TT Mossies in the film
The Duxford baby is a target tug aircraft with the well defined TT Scheme applied, (Diagonal black stripes across the yellow undersides and black tailplanes with yellow elevators)
The belly mounted target winching kit seems authentic ISTR, faired away when not towing.
Atcherlley, the last time I went to Duxford I tried to see the cockpit framing as mentioned by Eric but they have mounted it so the casual viewer can't see the wrap over rear canopy framing clearly enough
bu*ger
I did see a picture recently that showed the internal framing quite well, was it posted by Dr_gn, I can't remember
(You may guess that if I do return to modelling a Mossie could just be the baby I try out on, I love them to bits. A TT variant might just be the thing for me. Lovely)
The Duxford baby is a target tug aircraft with the well defined TT Scheme applied, (Diagonal black stripes across the yellow undersides and black tailplanes with yellow elevators)
The belly mounted target winching kit seems authentic ISTR, faired away when not towing.
Atcherlley, the last time I went to Duxford I tried to see the cockpit framing as mentioned by Eric but they have mounted it so the casual viewer can't see the wrap over rear canopy framing clearly enough
bu*ger
I did see a picture recently that showed the internal framing quite well, was it posted by Dr_gn, I can't remember
(You may guess that if I do return to modelling a Mossie could just be the baby I try out on, I love them to bits. A TT variant might just be the thing for me. Lovely)
perdu said:
It's been ages since I saw 633 sqn but I dont remember seeing any TT Mossies in the film
The Duxford baby is a target tug aircraft with the well defined TT Scheme applied, (Diagonal black stripes across the yellow undersides and black tailplanes with yellow elevators)
The belly mounted target winching kit seems authentic ISTR, faired away when not towing.
Atcherlley, the last time I went to Duxford I tried to see the cockpit framing as mentioned by Eric but they have mounted it so the casual viewer can't see the wrap over rear canopy framing clearly enough
bu*ger
I did see a picture recently that showed the internal framing quite well, was it posted by Dr_gn, I can't remember
(You may guess that if I do return to modelling a Mossie could just be the baby I try out on, I love them to bits. A TT variant might just be the thing for me. Lovely)
I think they just scrounged together as many flyable Mosquitos as they could - plus a few non-flying ones. It was 1964 after all, and Mossies were geting pretty rare by then.The Duxford baby is a target tug aircraft with the well defined TT Scheme applied, (Diagonal black stripes across the yellow undersides and black tailplanes with yellow elevators)
The belly mounted target winching kit seems authentic ISTR, faired away when not towing.
Atcherlley, the last time I went to Duxford I tried to see the cockpit framing as mentioned by Eric but they have mounted it so the casual viewer can't see the wrap over rear canopy framing clearly enough
bu*ger
I did see a picture recently that showed the internal framing quite well, was it posted by Dr_gn, I can't remember
(You may guess that if I do return to modelling a Mossie could just be the baby I try out on, I love them to bits. A TT variant might just be the thing for me. Lovely)
I agree
I was amazed at how many they did muster for it
great film shame about the movie
there's a reference on a google I found about the Duxford Mossie that says summat like...
(or did I read it here :? )
Actors more wooden than the Mossies
just about summed it up for me
cant wait to see how they mess up the Dam Busters next
will they call the dog "Laddie"
or write him out entirely
I was amazed at how many they did muster for it
great film shame about the movie
there's a reference on a google I found about the Duxford Mossie that says summat like...
(or did I read it here :? )
Actors more wooden than the Mossies
just about summed it up for me
cant wait to see how they mess up the Dam Busters next
will they call the dog "Laddie"
or write him out entirely
Edited by perdu on Thursday 31st December 17:25
Saw a 1/24 Airfix Mossdie in the flesh tonight (part built by one of our club members). It is AMAZING. The instructions look like a full size Mossie assembly manual.
Whatever has been said about it on the net, when you see the real thing you can see the care and thought that Airfix have put into this project.
Still don't know if it's worth the asking price - but that is me just being mean.
Whatever has been said about it on the net, when you see the real thing you can see the care and thought that Airfix have put into this project.
Still don't know if it's worth the asking price - but that is me just being mean.
Eric Mc said:
Saw a 1/24 Airfix Mossdie in the flesh tonight (part built by one of our club members). It is AMAZING. The instructions look like a full size Mossie assembly manual.
Whatever has been said about it on the net, when you see the real thing you can see the care and thought that Airfix have put into this project.
Still don't know if it's worth the asking price - but that is me just being mean.
i have no way of assessing whether it is good value for money but we have sold a few and price was not an issue. the box is quite heavy . made in india too,not sure if that is a good or bad thing.Whatever has been said about it on the net, when you see the real thing you can see the care and thought that Airfix have put into this project.
Still don't know if it's worth the asking price - but that is me just being mean.
Eric Mc said:
Under Hornby, a lot of AIrfix production has moved to India. It's not made any difference to the quality of the mouldings - although some of the decals were appalling. I think the decal issue has now been sorted.
A few people in several high-tech industries have told me anecdotes about producing things in / supplying things to, India. More than a couple said (either implicitly or explicitly) that whatever production equipment goes into India has to be absolutely foolproof to operate, and in some cases quite extensive re-designs have to implemented to ensure a consistent minimum quality of component is produced. Even considering this, it's way cheaper in the end becasue of the pathetic wages they pay the operatives. Basically, if anything is left to operator judgement out there, it will probably turn out to be s
t.dr_gn said:
Eric Mc said:
Under Hornby, a lot of AIrfix production has moved to India. It's not made any difference to the quality of the mouldings - although some of the decals were appalling. I think the decal issue has now been sorted.
A few people in several high-tech industries have told me anecdotes about producing things in / supplying things to, India. More than a couple said (either implicitly or explicitly) that whatever production equipment goes into India has to be absolutely foolproof to operate, and in some cases quite extensive re-designs have to implemented to ensure a consistent minimum quality of component is produced. Even considering this, it's way cheaper in the end becasue of the pathetic wages they pay the operatives. Basically, if anything is left to operator judgement out there, it will probably turn out to be st.jas xjr said:
dr_gn said:
Eric Mc said:
Under Hornby, a lot of AIrfix production has moved to India. It's not made any difference to the quality of the mouldings - although some of the decals were appalling. I think the decal issue has now been sorted.
A few people in several high-tech industries have told me anecdotes about producing things in / supplying things to, India. More than a couple said (either implicitly or explicitly) that whatever production equipment goes into India has to be absolutely foolproof to operate, and in some cases quite extensive re-designs have to implemented to ensure a consistent minimum quality of component is produced. Even considering this, it's way cheaper in the end becasue of the pathetic wages they pay the operatives. Basically, if anything is left to operator judgement out there, it will probably turn out to be st.no i agree. but what i am trying to put across is that india has a traditon of engineering. the repair side is just an example of the resourcefullness of the population. if as a company you want to pay the lowest of wages then you will not get the best candidates working for you.
a lot of companies outsource their it departments to india. if they pay decent money and attract the best people and train them adequately , then there is a good chance things might work out. if they follow the herd and try to do things on the cheap they end up with an unholy mess that some call centres are.
i have spent a fair proprtion of my life in india and have seen shoddy work practices, but in the end i learnt how to specify and oversee a job that i needed doing or employ somebody that could.
a lot of companies outsource their it departments to india. if they pay decent money and attract the best people and train them adequately , then there is a good chance things might work out. if they follow the herd and try to do things on the cheap they end up with an unholy mess that some call centres are.
i have spent a fair proprtion of my life in india and have seen shoddy work practices, but in the end i learnt how to specify and oversee a job that i needed doing or employ somebody that could.
jas xjr said:
no i agree. but what i am trying to put across is that india has a traditon of engineering. the repair side is just an example of the resourcefullness of the population. if as a company you want to pay the lowest of wages then you will not get the best candidates working for you.
a lot of companies outsource their it departments to india. if they pay decent money and attract the best people and train them adequately , then there is a good chance things might work out. if they follow the herd and try to do things on the cheap they end up with an unholy mess that some call centres are.
i have spent a fair proprtion of my life in india and have seen shoddy work practices, but in the end i learnt how to specify and oversee a job that i needed doing or employ somebody that could.
A friend of mine works for a company that sometimes needs extra help with computer 3-D modelling. They use a consultancy in India, and get perfect solid models back from their e-mailed drawings, usually within 24 hours. These are fairly complex parts too. It seems there is perhaps (understandably) a very sharp division between the educated and uneducated workforce in India.a lot of companies outsource their it departments to india. if they pay decent money and attract the best people and train them adequately , then there is a good chance things might work out. if they follow the herd and try to do things on the cheap they end up with an unholy mess that some call centres are.
i have spent a fair proprtion of my life in india and have seen shoddy work practices, but in the end i learnt how to specify and oversee a job that i needed doing or employ somebody that could.
totally agree , trouble is that in a lot of countries a lot of people have a set of skills by default , as a result of having an education .it is changing slowly but they are using positive discrimination to achieve this, not always a good thing. i believe in best candidate for the job. anyway lets get back to models
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