Cricket - England Ashes Tour - Winter 17-18

Cricket - England Ashes Tour - Winter 17-18

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Murph7355

37,944 posts

258 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Gargamel said:
Take that... terrible shot mind.
Just been looking at it from a few angles - what was he doing?

unrepentant

21,302 posts

258 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Why the fk isn't Broad bowling? Since lunch we haven't looked like taking a wicket and our best bowler hasn't turned his arm over.

motomk

2,155 posts

246 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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www,cricket.com.au has radio from 4 broadcasters. Not sure if it is available outside Oz. You have to register but it is free.
TMS is on the BBC website or it was when I looked.



anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Cook again. Ffs

anonymous-user

56 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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/2


dsmith1990

1,274 posts

148 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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It was all going so well when I went to bed. I wish Steve Smith would go back to being the rubbish successor to Shane Warne. At least Glenn Maxwell didn't make the team though...only the 278 runs for Victoria!

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

166 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Still in this test and now we get to see how strong mentally they are not many people gave them a chance here but if a couple can stand up to the oncoming onslaught we should at least come away with a draw.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

130 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Gandahar said:
Still think Cook is not scoring enough and has not done so for a while yet. I get the feeling he is playing on history.

Our #2 in fine form though, has he got less than 50 yet? Average must be very good.
I have not changed my viewpoint on both ... Cook's average is less than 10 I think for all the matches out there....

Gandahar

9,600 posts

130 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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An interesting test to listen to on TMS, though I keep falling asleep for periods.

We need to get 300 again I think, then the draw more than likely, which will be ok for us from here. The spirit seems pretty good so far.


Gargamel

15,053 posts

263 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Murph7355 said:
Just been looking at it from a few angles - what was he doing?
Played away from his body and then stopped the shot (or slowed it down) He played it away from him and in front of his knee, hence giving a catch. Ideally you'd play the ball with the bat sloping backwards so the ball goes down.

Or if you are going to play like that on the up, then much more bat speed in the swing to clear the infield

Gargamel

15,053 posts

263 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Gandahar said:
An interesting test to listen to on TMS, though I keep falling asleep for periods.

We need to get 300 again I think, then the draw more than likely, which will be ok for us from here. The spirit seems pretty good so far.
Agree a 250+ lead here will be enough for the draw. But getting there might be tough.... Aussie tails are up as they know they are still in with a great shout if they roll us for 250 or less.

Smith scored very very slowly, mostly as the bowling was really tight - so for the Aussies upping the pace of scoring in a chase might give us more opportunities.

Woakes not looking the destroyer though is he ? Suspect on a quicker track he is going to be boundary fodder, there is just something missing. Hard to explain but he doesn't have an aura of threat like top class bowlers.

Marshal, Holding, Ambrose, Willis, Anderson, Donald...Woakes. Just doesn't intimidate.


Gandahar

9,600 posts

130 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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Gargamel said:
Gandahar said:
An interesting test to listen to on TMS, though I keep falling asleep for periods.

We need to get 300 again I think, then the draw more than likely, which will be ok for us from here. The spirit seems pretty good so far.
Agree a 250+ lead here will be enough for the draw. But getting there might be tough.... Aussie tails are up as they know they are still in with a great shout if they roll us for 250 or less.

Smith scored very very slowly, mostly as the bowling was really tight - so for the Aussies upping the pace of scoring in a chase might give us more opportunities.

Woakes not looking the destroyer though is he ? Suspect on a quicker track he is going to be boundary fodder, there is just something missing. Hard to explain but he doesn't have an aura of threat like top class bowlers.

Marshal, Holding, Ambrose, Willis, Anderson, Donald...Woakes. Just doesn't intimidate.
Agree with all your points.

If Root and Stoneman can resist the onslaught tomorrow morning, forget hooking, forward defensive no runs. Boring boring England, then we should get the draw at least and off to better places. And 5-0 is defeated.

It's all in the mind at the moment. A lot of people have written England off, the average score for people on TMS were saying 3-1 to the OZ, Feck them. It's defeatism before we even batted.

Given that has been ok so far from our guys. I think this is making them stronger. To be honest Oz only are up because of the captain so far,

No collapse please. Graft and grit your way to 300 again. Sorted.

Only a few hours to go. I have my trusty AKG headphones and when my wife says" what's that hard thing in the bed?" I can honestly say a Duke County ball

woohoo

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

166 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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what are the odds on an England collapse and an early finish. If they can dig in and tough this out a draw will feel like a win.

Itsallicanafford

2,782 posts

161 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Crucial hour of the series? 1st test, England 2nd innings, 100 infront, 5 down..if we can get a 200 lead minimum we have something to bowl at...

unrepentant

21,302 posts

258 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Ali dismissal absolutely ridiculous. Even the Aussie comms on Channel 9 disagreed with it. They had to go to frame by frame super slo mo and even then it wasn't decisive. Benefit of doubt should have gone to the batsman.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Pretty torrid day for England all round really. More toothless bowling and a failure to score runs.

Adelaide has usually been good for England but apart from that, I can’t see anything better than 4-1 at best based on this test,

spikeyhead

17,483 posts

199 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Doomed

Murph7355

37,944 posts

258 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Not sure what's up with Cook. But this is more like I was expecting from Stoneman and especially Vince unfortunately.

Whitewash back on? I hope not, but the worst Aussie batting line up ever (according to some Aussies) isn't looking to be an insurmountable challenge for them.

anonymous-user

56 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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Anyone else a bit concerned about Root?

I haven't checked the figures but he seems to score a lot of 50s and not convert them.

Smith's big century is effectively the difference between the sides.

GloverMart

11,947 posts

217 months

Sunday 26th November 2017
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desolate said:
Anyone else a bit concerned about Root?

I haven't checked the figures but he seems to score a lot of 50s and not convert them.

Smith's big century is effectively the difference between the sides.
Bit blurry with the figures but he has 33 50's and 13 centuries in test cricket, so given that he has passed fifty 46 times in total, it means he has a conversion rate of 28%. The batsmen with the best records are between 40% and 50% generally.

So yes, you're right.