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nickfrog said:
Mr Pointy said:
You seem very defensive of those managing her. Are you a sockpuppet for IMG or her parents/managers?
I am not defensive of anyone. All I said is "we don't know". I am trying to use some critical thinking but I appreciate everyone is a pundit.
What's a "sockpuppet"?
I did say that she might need to do a Hamilton, didn't I?
It really is that simple Nick.
andyA700 said:
We know because Richardson said it and if it was untrue, then he would probably find himself facing a legal challenge.
It really is that simple Nick.
No. The only thing he says is that it had nothing to do with his son. That still leaves the possibility that he wanted too much money or that other contractual requirements hurdles got in the way.It really is that simple Nick.
We don't know, it is that simple.
Still utterly irrelevant in the context of her injuries either way.
And I still don't see any conflicts of interest.
nickfrog said:
andyA700 said:
We know because Richardson said it and if it was untrue, then he would probably find himself facing a legal challenge.
It really is that simple Nick.
No. The only thing he says is that it had nothing to do with his son. That still leaves the possibility that he wanted too much money or that other contractual requirements hurdles got in the way.It really is that simple Nick.
We don't know, it is that simple.
Still utterly irrelevant in the context of her injuries either way.
And I still don't see any conflicts of interest.
"Andrew Richardson – the British coach who steered Emma Raducanu to the US Open title – has revealed that he was let go via a brief phone call from Raducanu's agent a couple of weeks later."
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andyA700 said:
Why are you refusing to acknowledge this?
"Andrew Richardson – the British coach who steered Emma Raducanu to the US Open title – has revealed that he was let go via a brief phone call from Raducanu's agent a couple of weeks later."
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I am still not refusing to acknowledge anything. I have read the articles in both the DM and the Telegraph."Andrew Richardson – the British coach who steered Emma Raducanu to the US Open title – has revealed that he was let go via a brief phone call from Raducanu's agent a couple of weeks later."
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Again, for the 4th time I think, we don't know. 2 sides to any story. You can't be let go if you haven't got a contract.
"After probably 10 days to two weeks [since the US Open] I didn't have a contract . We were in the process of re-negotiating and then I got a brief call from her agent telling me they were going to go in a different direction, and that was the end of it."
A number of reasons might have led them to make a different choice. Maybe he wanted too much money and/or they couldn't agree on terms, or a combination of many factors, as is always the case when you make a sporting or business decision. Maybe he is disgruntled, maybe not. Who knows? I certainly don't but perhaps you do if you were part of the negotiations?
Still, utterly irrelevant compared to the positive and significant changes she is making in getting her body to work.
And I still don't see any conflicts of interest. Nor see what this has to do with Guardiola.
Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 6th June 14:42
Ohio7274 said:
She should really be paying them the money tbh. It would be far more lucrative for her to start an OnlyFans.
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"Top coaches afraid to sign up with trigger-happy Emma Raducanu says her agent"
"Top coaches afraid to sign up with trigger-happy Emma Raducanu says her agent"
Apparently the turnover of coaches is due to her asking too many questions. I’d suggest from the outside it seems that both her and her parents know better, and if it doesn’t fit with their ideology then it doesn’t work and clearly that is the fault of the coach.
If everyone you meet is difficult, chances are it isn’t them.
I’m of the opinion she is well down the slide to mediocre obscurity and that her triumph was simply luck. It might be worth her employing someone like Boris Becker who at least ticks the box of having been there and done it, repeatedly.
If everyone you meet is difficult, chances are it isn’t them.
I’m of the opinion she is well down the slide to mediocre obscurity and that her triumph was simply luck. It might be worth her employing someone like Boris Becker who at least ticks the box of having been there and done it, repeatedly.
Magikarp said:
Apparently the turnover of coaches is due to her asking too many questions. I’d suggest from the outside it seems that both her and her parents know better, and if it doesn’t fit with their ideology then it doesn’t work and clearly that is the fault of the coach.
If everyone you meet is difficult, chances are it isn’t them.
I’m of the opinion she is well down the slide to mediocre obscurity and that her triumph was simply luck. It might be worth her employing someone like Boris Becker who at least ticks the box of having been there and done it, repeatedly.
If everyone you meet is difficult, chances are it isn’t them.
I’m of the opinion she is well down the slide to mediocre obscurity and that her triumph was simply luck. It might be worth her employing someone like Boris Becker who at least ticks the box of having been there and done it, repeatedly.
You don't win the US Open through "luck"
Clearly, she's in a process to replicate the form that won her the tournament, but let's not be under the false illusion that she got lucky at a local county tournament....
Magikarp said:
Apparently the turnover of coaches is due to her asking too many questions. I’d suggest from the outside it seems that both her and her parents know better, and if it doesn’t fit with their ideology then it doesn’t work and clearly that is the fault of the coach.
If everyone you meet is difficult, chances are it isn’t them.
I’m of the opinion she is well down the slide to mediocre obscurity and that her triumph was simply luck. It might be worth her employing someone like Boris Becker who at least ticks the box of having been there and done it, repeatedly.
What, jail?If everyone you meet is difficult, chances are it isn’t them.
I’m of the opinion she is well down the slide to mediocre obscurity and that her triumph was simply luck. It might be worth her employing someone like Boris Becker who at least ticks the box of having been there and done it, repeatedly.
Muzzer79 said:
Magikarp said:
Apparently the turnover of coaches is due to her asking too many questions. I’d suggest from the outside it seems that both her and her parents know better, and if it doesn’t fit with their ideology then it doesn’t work and clearly that is the fault of the coach.
If everyone you meet is difficult, chances are it isn’t them.
I’m of the opinion she is well down the slide to mediocre obscurity and that her triumph was simply luck. It might be worth her employing someone like Boris Becker who at least ticks the box of having been there and done it, repeatedly.
If everyone you meet is difficult, chances are it isn’t them.
I’m of the opinion she is well down the slide to mediocre obscurity and that her triumph was simply luck. It might be worth her employing someone like Boris Becker who at least ticks the box of having been there and done it, repeatedly.
You don't win the US Open through "luck"
Clearly, she's in a process to replicate the form that won her the tournament, but let's not be under the false illusion that she got lucky at a local county tournament....
It was a case of a perfect storm and beating the person on the other side of the net. It currently appears to resemble a black swan event.
rjfp1962 said:
Maybe no more perfect storms, but she'll be back 
You think? She won't be back. Andy Murray might be a decent shout for coaching due to his ability to train himself to very best level of his ability, but I doubt she'd accept even his advice. Her questions statement conjure up an image of that overly-confident , pedantic student questioning a teacher. I work with someone like that - doesn't ever listen to any answer and has pre-prepared objections readily to hand at all times. Mr Pointy said:
rjfp1962 said:
Maybe no more perfect storms, but she'll be back
That depends on whether she really wants to be slogging around qualifying tournaments in no-namessville USA or being a sleb with a billionaire boyfriend. I hope she does this sooner rather than later as I would hate to see her waste her talent and not fulfil that level of potential again.
It would be great to see her doing well again from a tennis fan's point of view, but on the flip side I'm not sure I'd care if we never heard about her again. Far too much media drama surrounding her now, it's all a bit tedious given she's done very little of note since that big win.
g4ry13 said:
Muzzer79 said:
Magikarp said:
Apparently the turnover of coaches is due to her asking too many questions. I’d suggest from the outside it seems that both her and her parents know better, and if it doesn’t fit with their ideology then it doesn’t work and clearly that is the fault of the coach.
If everyone you meet is difficult, chances are it isn’t them.
I’m of the opinion she is well down the slide to mediocre obscurity and that her triumph was simply luck. It might be worth her employing someone like Boris Becker who at least ticks the box of having been there and done it, repeatedly.
If everyone you meet is difficult, chances are it isn’t them.
I’m of the opinion she is well down the slide to mediocre obscurity and that her triumph was simply luck. It might be worth her employing someone like Boris Becker who at least ticks the box of having been there and done it, repeatedly.
You don't win the US Open through "luck"
Clearly, she's in a process to replicate the form that won her the tournament, but let's not be under the false illusion that she got lucky at a local county tournament....
It was a case of a perfect storm and beating the person on the other side of the net. It currently appears to resemble a black swan event.
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