Taking up Golf
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bigbubba said:
Hitting 300 and averaging 300+ are two very different things!
Everyone has got that one drive that they speak about for months where they could have got over 300 yards but to hit it more often than not, no way!
Look here;
Average Distances
This is the PGA average driving distance for TOURING PRO'S. There are only 24 that are averaging over 300 for the year.
BB
Thats why i made a point of saying if all of those factors were there, he could in theory hit it 300 + yards.I do agree about averaging though, my longest drive with the driver, and rolling a bit is probably about 230 or so, but i would reckon my average is about 170 or so. Zaxxon - unless you play golf near doncaster, and have a hearing aid, then nope, t'wasnt youEveryone has got that one drive that they speak about for months where they could have got over 300 yards but to hit it more often than not, no way!
Look here;
Average Distances
This is the PGA average driving distance for TOURING PRO'S. There are only 24 that are averaging over 300 for the year.
BB
Yoof Full Chav said:
Thats why i made a point of saying if all of those factors were there, he could in theory hit it 300 + yards.I do agree about averaging though, my longest drive with the driver, and rolling a bit is probably about 230 or so, but i would reckon my average is about 170 or so. Zaxxon - unless you play golf near doncaster, and have a hearing aid, then nope, t'wasnt you
This is my biggest, it was June this year and is by far the biggest I have ever hit. It was a combination of wind and a good bounce! 
I keep an average of my 'good' drives. this is not a pure average as I only ever bother markign the decent drives and I am at 230 yards for the year.
BB!
Looking at Jimbo's post again he also mentions hitting 12 out of 15 fairways (80%). This is again impressive, in fact so much so that he would be leading the European Tour driving accuracy stats by over 5% (Current #1 is Richie Ramsay at 74.5%).
So Jimbo not only hits the ball further than all but 9 or 10 of Euro Tour pros but he is also the more accurate than them all.
This combination of distance and accuracy suggests a serious natural talent.
Perhaps he should consider taking up the game professionally. Well that or admit that he is maybe exaggerating a little!
So Jimbo not only hits the ball further than all but 9 or 10 of Euro Tour pros but he is also the more accurate than them all.
This combination of distance and accuracy suggests a serious natural talent.
Perhaps he should consider taking up the game professionally. Well that or admit that he is maybe exaggerating a little!
Edited by coletrickle01 on Wednesday 14th September 23:09
Edited by coletrickle01 on Wednesday 14th September 23:10
bigbubba said:
This is my biggest, it was June this year and is by far the biggest I have ever hit. It was a combination of wind and a good bounce!
I keep an average of my 'good' drives. this is not a pure average as I only ever bother markign the decent drives and I am at 230 yards for the year.
BB!
KLINK - OOMPAH! Bet you were loving watching the distance climb on that puppy.I keep an average of my 'good' drives. this is not a pure average as I only ever bother markign the decent drives and I am at 230 yards for the year.
BB!
And a Clicgear trundler - lovely bit of kit, seem so cheap for what you get.
Just a bit finger trappy though.
Not suggesting that every drive I hit is 1 million yards long, I have always been a long hitter, saved me a good few times, ruined me others.. Frankly if you call BS it doesn't bother me, I was asking for advice, not trying to get into a pissing contest.
Assuming everything i've said about my driving is absolute BS. i'm actually 74, play with my lovely Dunlop flex shaft 13.5 driver, thanks for the advice so far, anymore?... Everyone I speak to gives me different advice around chipping (50 yards in) too much information scrambles the brain, i know the majority is in my head but need to sort it.
To the poster that said "Old woods" my old driver is a cobra 460 SZ stiff shaft 9.5 (i'll go as far as custard), maybe old compared to the R11 (which I want sososososo bad and is my present for getting back down to 18) It still goes, and is only 5 years old, not ancient.
Assuming everything i've said about my driving is absolute BS. i'm actually 74, play with my lovely Dunlop flex shaft 13.5 driver, thanks for the advice so far, anymore?... Everyone I speak to gives me different advice around chipping (50 yards in) too much information scrambles the brain, i know the majority is in my head but need to sort it.
To the poster that said "Old woods" my old driver is a cobra 460 SZ stiff shaft 9.5 (i'll go as far as custard), maybe old compared to the R11 (which I want sososososo bad and is my present for getting back down to 18) It still goes, and is only 5 years old, not ancient.
Jimbo NW said:
Not suggesting that every drive I hit is 1 million yards long, I have always been a long hitter, saved me a good few times, ruined me others.. Frankly if you call BS it doesn't bother me, I was asking for advice, not trying to get into a pissing contest.
Assuming everything i've said about my driving is absolute BS. i'm actually 74, play with my lovely Dunlop flex shaft 13.5 driver, thanks for the advice so far, anymore?... Everyone I speak to gives me different advice around chipping (50 yards in) too much information scrambles the brain, i know the majority is in my head but need to sort it.
To the poster that said "Old woods" my old driver is a cobra 460 SZ stiff shaft 9.5 (i'll go as far as custard), maybe old compared to the R11 (which I want sososososo bad and is my present for getting back down to 18) It still goes, and is only 5 years old, not ancient.
I said that.Assuming everything i've said about my driving is absolute BS. i'm actually 74, play with my lovely Dunlop flex shaft 13.5 driver, thanks for the advice so far, anymore?... Everyone I speak to gives me different advice around chipping (50 yards in) too much information scrambles the brain, i know the majority is in my head but need to sort it.
To the poster that said "Old woods" my old driver is a cobra 460 SZ stiff shaft 9.5 (i'll go as far as custard), maybe old compared to the R11 (which I want sososososo bad and is my present for getting back down to 18) It still goes, and is only 5 years old, not ancient.
I use an R9, I love driving, I wouldn't play golf if smacking the absolute shyte out of a ball wasn't a part of it. The R9 isn't all it's cracked up to be and I assume that the R11 isn't really that mich different, just very clever of Taylormade to have us all chasing the next number up every six months.
I had a Williams F1 driver before the R9 and it would easily hit farther, but I wrapped it round a tree on one of the occasions when it didn't.
If you're driving 300+ with your Cobra thingy why aspire to a R11?
cheddar said:
I said that.
I use an R9, I love driving, I wouldn't play golf if smacking the absolute shyte out of a ball wasn't a part of it. The R9 isn't all it's cracked up to be and I assume that the R11 isn't really that mich different, just very clever of Taylormade to have us all chasing the next number up every six months.
I had a Williams F1 driver before the R9 and it would easily hit farther, but I wrapped it round a tree on one of the occasions when it didn't.
If you're driving 300+ with your Cobra thingy why aspire to a R11?
I have an R9 driver and matching 3 and 5 woods. I've played a round with the R11 - it was no better really. Not that the playing conditions in Cornwall in May were anything like Indonesia...(15 degrees vs 33 degrees plus 90% humidity). I think most drivers are much of a muchness - find one you like with the right shaft (ie get it fitted for your game, not the advertisers) and learn to use it...I use an R9, I love driving, I wouldn't play golf if smacking the absolute shyte out of a ball wasn't a part of it. The R9 isn't all it's cracked up to be and I assume that the R11 isn't really that mich different, just very clever of Taylormade to have us all chasing the next number up every six months.
I had a Williams F1 driver before the R9 and it would easily hit farther, but I wrapped it round a tree on one of the occasions when it didn't.
If you're driving 300+ with your Cobra thingy why aspire to a R11?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h1Ts26S6P8
Having given up this deadful pastime some 12 years ago after suffering a lumbar discectomy 'ouch' I too have rekindled my love of golf.
However!
I can no longer hit a barn door from 10ft with my Flare Graphite shafted Lynx Black Cat Irons. So I spied a ropey old set of steel shafted Parralax irons from fleabay for £30....and now feel much more at ease with my game.
I don't know why but I can still hit an eg. 7 iron blade much easier than a 7 cavity...smash a 1 iron (yes I did say (one) 190 yds straight and yet make a complete abortion of anything I attempt with a 3 or 4 iron.
Have tried numerous different new designs of drivers and 3 woods but can't seem to get on with all this new fangled technology and massively oversized clubheads. have reverted to an old set of Callaway B.Bertha's with firm shafts and somehow seem to be progressing along nicely.
All this is runs against the norm and I have no reason as to why...I have stopped trying to drive the club like a cricket shot and have been told by my playing partners that i have a good swing (if not full/limited backswing) with nice controlled acceleration into the shot.
I accept that I'll never drive anything like the distances I could before my operation, but how the hell do i hit a 1 or 2 iron straight and true, but struggle with the more forgiving clubs?
any help will be greatly accepted.
However!
I can no longer hit a barn door from 10ft with my Flare Graphite shafted Lynx Black Cat Irons. So I spied a ropey old set of steel shafted Parralax irons from fleabay for £30....and now feel much more at ease with my game.
I don't know why but I can still hit an eg. 7 iron blade much easier than a 7 cavity...smash a 1 iron (yes I did say (one) 190 yds straight and yet make a complete abortion of anything I attempt with a 3 or 4 iron.
Have tried numerous different new designs of drivers and 3 woods but can't seem to get on with all this new fangled technology and massively oversized clubheads. have reverted to an old set of Callaway B.Bertha's with firm shafts and somehow seem to be progressing along nicely.
All this is runs against the norm and I have no reason as to why...I have stopped trying to drive the club like a cricket shot and have been told by my playing partners that i have a good swing (if not full/limited backswing) with nice controlled acceleration into the shot.
I accept that I'll never drive anything like the distances I could before my operation, but how the hell do i hit a 1 or 2 iron straight and true, but struggle with the more forgiving clubs?
any help will be greatly accepted.
Cooky said:
I accept that I'll never drive anything like the distances I could before my operation, but how the hell do i hit a 1 or 2 iron straight and true, but struggle with the more forgiving clubs?
any help will be greatly accepted.
If you find out, be sure to sell your secrets to top tour players as not all of them can hit a long iron very well anymore!any help will be greatly accepted.
coletrickle01 said:
Looking at Jimbo's post again he also mentions hitting 12 out of 15 fairways (80%). This is again impressive, in fact so much so that he would be leading the European Tour driving accuracy stats by over 5% (Current #1 is Richie Ramsay at 74.5%).
So Jimbo not only hits the ball further than all but 9 or 10 of Euro Tour pros but he is also the more accurate than them all.
This combination of distance and accuracy suggests a serious natural talent.
Perhaps he should consider taking up the game professionally. Well that or admit that he is maybe exaggerating a little!
Bear in mind the following before the Jimmy Hill Chin is fully extended:So Jimbo not only hits the ball further than all but 9 or 10 of Euro Tour pros but he is also the more accurate than them all.
This combination of distance and accuracy suggests a serious natural talent.
Perhaps he should consider taking up the game professionally. Well that or admit that he is maybe exaggerating a little!
1. Driving distances for pros are usually measured at 2 holes only, not every hole. These are usually a par 5, and a par 4 where the pros will all hit driver.
2. Driving accuracy. The courses the pros play will be set up harder with more rough and narrower fairways than your average muni.
3. Ground/air conditions. I've driven the ball 350 yards plus at St Andrews with little helping wind - catch the down slope on a summer's day and the fairways are faster than most greens. Where I play in the tropics where it rains every day, you get maybe 2-3 yards run at most, so my average of 230-250 yards is all air (hard to do when you grew up playing links golf in West Cornwall)! My driving average is only 61.2% so I'm jealous either way!
Yoof Full Chav said:
It's between wrexham and nantwich, so if you went under the mersey, and across via ellesmere port area, it's probably about an hours drive i guess. For me it's about 4 hrs drive, but that's no hardship
I know where Nantwich is - I go past this on the M6 on the way up North. Not too far at all.I suggest everyone gets their practice in over the winter, and we arrange something for Spring time - before my annual US golfing holiday (May). With regards to dress code - that is no problem. I have all the gear and no-idea
Bing o said:
Bear in mind the following before the Jimmy Hill Chin is fully extended:
1. Driving distances for pros are usually measured at 2 holes only, not every hole. These are usually a par 5, and a par 4 where the pros will all hit driver.
2. Driving accuracy. The courses the pros play will be set up harder with more rough and narrower fairways than your average muni.
3. Ground/air conditions. I've driven the ball 350 yards plus at St Andrews with little helping wind - catch the down slope on a summer's day and the fairways are faster than most greens. Where I play in the tropics where it rains every day, you get maybe 2-3 yards run at most, so my average of 230-250 yards is all air (hard to do when you grew up playing links golf in West Cornwall)! My driving average is only 61.2% so I'm jealous either way!
I did not know that for point 1 - which is interesting. My suggestion was going to be is it not because driving stats are taken on all holes, and pro's will pick position, rathern than length of drives?1. Driving distances for pros are usually measured at 2 holes only, not every hole. These are usually a par 5, and a par 4 where the pros will all hit driver.
2. Driving accuracy. The courses the pros play will be set up harder with more rough and narrower fairways than your average muni.
3. Ground/air conditions. I've driven the ball 350 yards plus at St Andrews with little helping wind - catch the down slope on a summer's day and the fairways are faster than most greens. Where I play in the tropics where it rains every day, you get maybe 2-3 yards run at most, so my average of 230-250 yards is all air (hard to do when you grew up playing links golf in West Cornwall)! My driving average is only 61.2% so I'm jealous either way!
Point 2 - in comparison to Jimbos Kerry Katona comment is very true as well. Target golf vs Tight golf is very different. If you get the chance to play in USA, some of the greens are as wide, as par 3 lengths I play in Europe. Helps me out no end, because my putting and close chipping are way better than the rest of my game.
Point 3 - that is so true. Worst I have known was in India when I played. I am not a large hitter, I have had to re-train myself for accuracy over power, as I do not have ability to do both. If the ball leaves the tee well, and I hit a good one, I am between 230-250 yards by the time the ball stops. In India this was 180 yards for me, humidity also plays a factor in ball flight as well as the ground. I was clubbing up two clubs in India to hit same distance as normal.
Mates of mine I play with are regularly 50 yards in front of me, and often more than that. So I have no issue believing Jimbo. I doubt it is a true average, but what he means is same as my comment above, if he hits it true from the tee, then this is where the ball will end up. He may do that twice a round or ten times a round - but I believe it.
We have one guy in our society that plays off of 24, and his driving is unbelieveable. The rest of his game is crap - I have suggested he enter the long drive comps, and leaves the rest of his clubs at home!
We have 4 or 5 golfers from 3 to 12 handicaps in our society that consistently hit the ball 280+ yards to finish. One guy had a hole in one at a 330 yard par 4 two years ago. I have also won a longest drive with a 380 yard drive before at Princes, with the wind coming in off of the right, and me starting the ball out over the sea spending 80% of its time looking like it was going in the sea, and finishing on the fairway. There are so many unusual things at golf, that nothing is unbelieveable. Just make sure there is someone their to witness it!
Cooky said:
I accept that I'll never drive anything like the distances I could before my operation, but how the hell do i hit a 1 or 2 iron straight and true, but struggle with the more forgiving clubs?
any help will be greatly accepted.
great quote about 1 irons. any help will be greatly accepted.
Lee Treviono said:
If you're caught on a golf course during a storm and are afraid of lightning, hold up a 1-iron. Not even God can hit a 1-iron.
carl carlson said:
Cooky said:
I accept that I'll never drive anything like the distances I could before my operation, but how the hell do i hit a 1 or 2 iron straight and true, but struggle with the more forgiving clubs?
any help will be greatly accepted.
great quote about 1 irons. any help will be greatly accepted.
Lee Treviono said:
If you're caught on a golf course during a storm and are afraid of lightning, hold up a 1-iron. Not even God can hit a 1-iron.
Yoof Full Chav said:
This course, Carden Park, does a twilight deal, play after 2pm, and it's only £20 a head. Also, i believe it supports the 2-fore-1 voucher, so i'll investigate further, could reduce the cost, which helps me out
Oh good, I can take 20 squid off the airfare and hirecar costs...Quoting fail from iPhone, the r11 is so pretty though and White (/slavetofashionpost/)
cheddar said:
I said that.
I use an R9, I love driving, I wouldn't play golf if smacking the absolute shyte out of a ball wasn't a part of it. The R9 isn't all it's cracked up to be and I assume that the R11 isn't really that mich different, just very clever of Taylormade to have us all chasing the next number up every six months.
I had a Williams F1 driver before the R9 and it would easily hit farther, but I wrapped it round a tree on one of the occasions when it didn't.
If you're driving 300+ with your Cobra thingy why aspire to a R11?
I use an R9, I love driving, I wouldn't play golf if smacking the absolute shyte out of a ball wasn't a part of it. The R9 isn't all it's cracked up to be and I assume that the R11 isn't really that mich different, just very clever of Taylormade to have us all chasing the next number up every six months.
I had a Williams F1 driver before the R9 and it would easily hit farther, but I wrapped it round a tree on one of the occasions when it didn't.
If you're driving 300+ with your Cobra thingy why aspire to a R11?
Bing o said:
Bear in mind the following before the Jimmy Hill Chin is fully extended:
1. Driving distances for pros are usually measured at 2 holes only, not every hole. These are usually a par 5, and a par 4 where the pros will all hit driver.
2. Driving accuracy. The courses the pros play will be set up harder with more rough and narrower fairways than your average muni.
3. Ground/air conditions. I've driven the ball 350 yards plus at St Andrews with little helping wind - catch the down slope on a summer's day and the fairways are faster than most greens. Where I play in the tropics where it rains every day, you get maybe 2-3 yards run at most, so my average of 230-250 yards is all air (hard to do when you grew up playing links golf in West Cornwall)! My driving average is only 61.2% so I'm jealous either way!
I have no trouble believing that Jimbo has on rare occasion hit the ball 300yards but that isn't what he said. To usually hit over 300 yards whilst hitting 80% of fairways is so far outside my experience of the game that, frankly, i just don't believe it. 1. Driving distances for pros are usually measured at 2 holes only, not every hole. These are usually a par 5, and a par 4 where the pros will all hit driver.
2. Driving accuracy. The courses the pros play will be set up harder with more rough and narrower fairways than your average muni.
3. Ground/air conditions. I've driven the ball 350 yards plus at St Andrews with little helping wind - catch the down slope on a summer's day and the fairways are faster than most greens. Where I play in the tropics where it rains every day, you get maybe 2-3 yards run at most, so my average of 230-250 yards is all air (hard to do when you grew up playing links golf in West Cornwall)! My driving average is only 61.2% so I'm jealous either way!
I play fairly regularly with some good golfers ranging in handicaps from +2 to 5. Most of them can on occasion hit the ball over 300 yards, none of them would claim to be able to do so regularly. The driving stats for Euro and US tours suggest that professional athletes who dedicate their lives to the game cannot do so regularly.
Yet Jimbo who has recently taken up the game again and has a handicap of 15ish can?! I'm surprised how many people here believe it.
It seems to me to be likely that there was a mixture of exaggeration and misconception of distance in Jimbo's post. I suspect that if Jimbo measures these drives properly he may be surprised.
That said i have no wish to get into a pointless arguement so good luck to him. A couple of lessons from his local pro and plenty of practice will sort the short game nicely.
I'm off to put £5 on Jimbo for 2012 Open.
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