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warch

2,941 posts

156 months

Monday 29th April 2019
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The Mad Monk said:
jbswagger said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/48090055

Alex Hales withdrawn from England World Cup squad
Why is that?
As widely reported, due to cocaine being detected following a random drugs test. Exacerbated by his involvement in Stokesgate no doubt. Shame really because England really need him in the squad, but he's behaving like a cock.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

125 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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Not denying that Hales is a bit of a cock (drugs, fights, cheating on his gf while on tour etc) however the ECB haven’t handled this very well. They punished him for a specific offence (the drugs) only to them increase the punishment just because the media found out about it.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 30th April 2019
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I recall him suggesting he deserved a second after “stokesgate”, which he’s had, and blown. He’s clearly an utter, utter gimboid.

jbswagger

766 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Alex Hales' England World Cup omission follows 'breakdown in trust'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/48136881

thegreenhell

15,903 posts

221 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Maiden wicket for Jofra Archer in an England shirt today.

ETA - nice to have TMS back on the BBC after they lost the rights to the winter series'.

thegreenhell

15,903 posts

221 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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England in trouble here.

Baron Greenback

7,067 posts

152 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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thegreenhell said:
England in trouble here.
^^ yes even more now!

Black can man

31,884 posts

170 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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66-5

eek

SydneyBridge

8,796 posts

160 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Just got home and expected it to be nearly over...
Home advantage?

Baron Greenback

7,067 posts

152 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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The newbie is going to have a hang over tonight!

chunder27

2,309 posts

210 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Managed about 10 minutes but the inane and incessant drivel coming from the Irish wicketkeeper made me turn it off.

Wish an umpire sometimes would step in with this crap as it was monotonous, offputting (the point I suppose) and utterly ruined the experience of watching as a fan

It cant have any effect on geeing up players surely as it is the same thing every ball if it was me I would tell him to STFU, even if he was on my team!.

Dermot O'Logical

2,653 posts

131 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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chunder27 said:
Managed about 10 minutes but the inane and incessant drivel coming from the Irish wicketkeeper made me turn it off.

Wish an umpire sometimes would step in with this crap as it was monotonous, offputting (the point I suppose) and utterly ruined the experience of watching as a fan

It cant have any effect on geeing up players surely as it is the same thing every ball if it was me I would tell him to STFU, even if he was on my team!.
Perhaps he's trying the "Warner" scam of trying to get the stump mics turned down or off - the Reverend David Warner kept swearing, and calling out the names of companies who were competitors to the series sponsors to get the mics turned right down. After which, the level and intensity of sledging increased.

I can't remember when this was, but it was recent, and preceded the sandpaper issue, in which Warner played a prominent role.

Black can man

31,884 posts

170 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Foakes & Curren doing themselves plenty of favours today. Wish they could help my floundering Surrey right now.

Going to be a selection nightmare come the world cup squad.

carinatauk

1,415 posts

254 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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I have been reading back on Hales and Stokes.

Why is it that Aussie Cricket can accept that people fk up and after their suspension they can rejoin the World Cup team [although the Barmy Army will give them hell!]; yet English cricket can't accept the same principle.

To me it seems that the the ECB and some of the "senior" players don't like outliers and can't wait for the chance of eliminating them from the team. Yes, the likes of Hales has done wrong but has served his sentence.

This could have a big impact on England and the World stage.

zetec

4,481 posts

253 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Dermot O'Logical said:
chunder27 said:
Managed about 10 minutes but the inane and incessant drivel coming from the Irish wicketkeeper made me turn it off.

Wish an umpire sometimes would step in with this crap as it was monotonous, offputting (the point I suppose) and utterly ruined the experience of watching as a fan

It cant have any effect on geeing up players surely as it is the same thing every ball if it was me I would tell him to STFU, even if he was on my team!.
Perhaps he's trying the "Warner" scam of trying to get the stump mics turned down or off - the Reverend David Warner kept swearing, and calling out the names of companies who were competitors to the series sponsors to get the mics turned right down. After which, the level and intensity of sledging increased.

I can't remember when this was, but it was recent, and preceded the sandpaper issue, in which Warner played a prominent role.
David Warner, a nasty piece of work. I read somewhere he’s a bit like John Terry, if he wasn’t so talented he would be in prison by now.

chunder27

2,309 posts

210 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Warner is a totally nasty piece of work, the worst kind of Australian. Most of them play hard and party hard, but this guy is just a nasty man.

Just don't need his type in the game, regardless of how good he bats.

Hales is just a footballer playing cricket, looks a bit of a chav, seemingly thinks he can handle himself and also hasn't learned his lesson.

I have no sympathy at all I am afraid, to be in that privileged position, this year of years and to do something so stupid tells you all you need to know about him, selfish, dumb and rather thick.

Gargamel

15,056 posts

263 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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It is not a one of with Alex, he just doesn’t learn

One of those, I want everything whenever I want it, and if you take something away its unfair, regardless of my behavior.

A proper man child.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/8693254/alex-hales-...


I don’t need to like someone to enjoy their sporting achievements, but he was told how to behave and didn’t listen, seems he never listens.


warch

2,941 posts

156 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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Bear in mind footballers get banned for months if found to have cocaine in their system. Adrian Mutu got a 7 month ban and had his contract with Chelsea torn up after testing positive for cocaine back in the early 00s. Rio Ferdinand got an eight month ban for failing to provide a test sample.


Hales is been punished because he seems incapable of behaving in a manner befitting a member of the England Cricket Team.


ralphrj

3,559 posts

193 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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I think that the ECB used to have a more draconian approach to failed recreational drug tests (like the football examples posted above) but they were revised following the death of Tom Maynard.

Maynard was killed by a train when he ran from the Police who spotted him driving erratically. Maynard was well over the drink drive limit and had taken cocaine and ecstasy. There was some concern at the ECB that Maynard may have taken the risk of crossing a railway line because he feared that, if he had been arrested and tested positive for drugs, his playing career would be over. Whilst players should not take drugs the penalty for doing so should not be so severe that someone is prepared to risk death.

As a result the ECB issued new penalties for failing a drug test.

1st offence - letter to County Medical Officer and put in contact with rehabilitation and counselling services

2nd offence - 21 day ban

3rd offence - both County and ECB can tear up player's contract

Hales had 2 failed tests so was automatically banned for 21 days. To protect his privacy this was described as being unavailable for "personal reasons". However, given the expose of his infidelity on tour in Caribbean this alerted the press that there was probably more to the story and they dug up the information on the drug test.

I think his complaints (via his management) of harsh treatment illustrate just how immature his behaviour has been and continues to be.

chunder27

2,309 posts

210 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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Think a lot of us have no sympathy.

All he can do is go back to county, come back and perhaps look a bit guilty.

He never does.