England cricket 2023 & 2024
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Scabutz said:
Baron Greenback said:
England spinner Jack Leach has been ruled out of the Ashes series against Australia with a back stress fracture.
Just seen that. Bloody hell.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/65805317
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Gutted for him, and for us. I would imagine he'd have been really looking forward to it.
Since we now have Stokes as the non-batting and non-bowling skipper I guess that means Root is now the team's all-rounder.
Dermot O'Logical said:
Scabutz said:
Stokes going to have to ask Ali to come back into Test cricket
Yes. Mo offers something with the bat as well.Or Liam Dawson.
Mo or Liam, really????
Interesting dilemma for England. With Stokes knee not looking anything like 100% you could well imagine Australia having decided Leach was the bowler they wanted to attack and thus make our remaining three seamers work harder with less rest. With the Tests tightly packed in you can see how that becomes an issue.
I reckon given Stokes/Baz have apparently asked for flat tracks we might end up going with four seamers plus Stokes. Better to have an extra higher class seamer than a spinner the Aussies will get after. I’d go for Moeen Ali I think if he’s up for it.
Stokes said in his interview after the game that he bowled in the nets that day for the first time since he came home from the IPL and is fully confident he’ll be fit. Let’s hope so. Balance of the side will be tested severely if he’s not fit.
Root is going to get plenty of overs this summer….
I reckon given Stokes/Baz have apparently asked for flat tracks we might end up going with four seamers plus Stokes. Better to have an extra higher class seamer than a spinner the Aussies will get after. I’d go for Moeen Ali I think if he’s up for it.
Stokes said in his interview after the game that he bowled in the nets that day for the first time since he came home from the IPL and is fully confident he’ll be fit. Let’s hope so. Balance of the side will be tested severely if he’s not fit.
Root is going to get plenty of overs this summer….
Cheib said:
Interesting dilemma for England. With Stokes knee not looking anything like 100% you could well imagine Australia having decided Leach was the bowler they wanted to attack and thus make our remaining three seamers work harder with less rest. With the Tests tightly packed in you can see how that becomes an issue.
I reckon given Stokes/Baz have apparently asked for flat tracks we might end up going with four seamers plus Stokes. Better to have an extra higher class seamer than a spinner the Aussies will get after. I’d go for Moeen Ali I think if he’s up for it.
Stokes said in his interview after the game that he bowled in the nets that day for the first time since he came home from the IPL and is fully confident he’ll be fit. Let’s hope so. Balance of the side will be tested severely if he’s not fit.
Root is going to get plenty of overs this summer….
Could be a long summer if Stokes can’t bowl and we have no spinner. Can’t rely on Root to bowl a load of overs. He is great to try something new and get a wicket, but not to hold up an end. Might have to blood someone and hope it works. I reckon given Stokes/Baz have apparently asked for flat tracks we might end up going with four seamers plus Stokes. Better to have an extra higher class seamer than a spinner the Aussies will get after. I’d go for Moeen Ali I think if he’s up for it.
Stokes said in his interview after the game that he bowled in the nets that day for the first time since he came home from the IPL and is fully confident he’ll be fit. Let’s hope so. Balance of the side will be tested severely if he’s not fit.
Root is going to get plenty of overs this summer….
I'd go with Livingstone to replace Leach. He can share the spinning load with Root. His inclusion strengthens the batting lineup and allows Crawley to be benched. Pope can open - there's bugger all difference between number 2 and 3. That then makes room for the fourth seamer.
My pure Bazball 11 would be;
1 Duckett
2 Pope
3 Root
4 Brook
5 Bairstow
6 Livingston
7 Stokes
8 Woakes
9 Broad
10 Wood
11 Anderson
Eight batsmen and seven bowlers.
My pure Bazball 11 would be;
1 Duckett
2 Pope
3 Root
4 Brook
5 Bairstow
6 Livingston
7 Stokes
8 Woakes
9 Broad
10 Wood
11 Anderson
Eight batsmen and seven bowlers.
According to The Cricketer, Ali has confirmed he has been approached by England Management and is seriously considering a return.
His batting of late hasn't been great although there were a few games in the Hundred last year he smashed a few good scores. Might be good Nighthawk or just a low end batter to come out and entertain for a few shots and add a few runs.
His batting of late hasn't been great although there were a few games in the Hundred last year he smashed a few good scores. Might be good Nighthawk or just a low end batter to come out and entertain for a few shots and add a few runs.
Leithen said:
I'd go with Livingstone to replace Leach. He can share the spinning load with Root. His inclusion strengthens the batting lineup and allows Crawley to be benched. Pope can open - there's bugger all difference between number 2 and 3. That then makes room for the fourth seamer.
My pure Bazball 11 would be;
1 Duckett
2 Pope
3 Root
4 Brook
5 Bairstow
6 Livingston
7 Stokes
8 Woakes
9 Broad
10 Wood
11 Anderson
Eight batsmen and seven bowlers.
I was going to say, with Archer and Leach out, that's the Ashes gone - early injuries always seem to stuff a side's chances. My pure Bazball 11 would be;
1 Duckett
2 Pope
3 Root
4 Brook
5 Bairstow
6 Livingston
7 Stokes
8 Woakes
9 Broad
10 Wood
11 Anderson
Eight batsmen and seven bowlers.
But reading that line-up actually gives scope for optimism. Even swapping Ali for Livingston.
Lotusgone said:
Leithen said:
I'd go with Livingstone to replace Leach. He can share the spinning load with Root. His inclusion strengthens the batting lineup and allows Crawley to be benched. Pope can open - there's bugger all difference between number 2 and 3. That then makes room for the fourth seamer.
My pure Bazball 11 would be;
1 Duckett
2 Pope
3 Root
4 Brook
5 Bairstow
6 Livingston
7 Stokes
8 Woakes
9 Broad
10 Wood
11 Anderson
Eight batsmen and seven bowlers.
I was going to say, with Archer and Leach out, that's the Ashes gone - early injuries always seem to stuff a side's chances. My pure Bazball 11 would be;
1 Duckett
2 Pope
3 Root
4 Brook
5 Bairstow
6 Livingston
7 Stokes
8 Woakes
9 Broad
10 Wood
11 Anderson
Eight batsmen and seven bowlers.
But reading that line-up actually gives scope for optimism. Even swapping Ali for Livingston.
Tony Angelino said:
Lotusgone said:
Leithen said:
I'd go with Livingstone to replace Leach. He can share the spinning load with Root. His inclusion strengthens the batting lineup and allows Crawley to be benched. Pope can open - there's bugger all difference between number 2 and 3. That then makes room for the fourth seamer.
My pure Bazball 11 would be;
1 Duckett
2 Pope
3 Root
4 Brook
5 Bairstow
6 Livingston
7 Stokes
8 Woakes
9 Broad
10 Wood
11 Anderson
Eight batsmen and seven bowlers.
I was going to say, with Archer and Leach out, that's the Ashes gone - early injuries always seem to stuff a side's chances. My pure Bazball 11 would be;
1 Duckett
2 Pope
3 Root
4 Brook
5 Bairstow
6 Livingston
7 Stokes
8 Woakes
9 Broad
10 Wood
11 Anderson
Eight batsmen and seven bowlers.
But reading that line-up actually gives scope for optimism. Even swapping Ali for Livingston.
Clearly we would want Anderson producing curving wonder balls, but perhaps the clever way to approach the series is to only pick him when the forecast offers some hope of a swinging masterclass.
And once again, don't over bowl anyone. It's buggered countless England prospects, Archer most recently. Seven bowlers, five or six over spells, no more, keep rotating them.
Leithen said:
I think if Woakes could stay fit (don't over bowl him), then there are enough seamers to mix and match for the other three bowling slots. He can bat.
Clearly we would want Anderson producing curving wonder balls, but perhaps the clever way to approach the series is to only pick him when the forecast offers some hope of a swinging masterclass.
And once again, don't over bowl anyone. It's buggered countless England prospects, Archer most recently. Seven bowlers, five or six over spells, no more, keep rotating them.
As an asside I was recently listening to Andersons book on Audible. He himself doesn't believe overcast conditions produce swing.Clearly we would want Anderson producing curving wonder balls, but perhaps the clever way to approach the series is to only pick him when the forecast offers some hope of a swinging masterclass.
And once again, don't over bowl anyone. It's buggered countless England prospects, Archer most recently. Seven bowlers, five or six over spells, no more, keep rotating them.
Scabutz said:
Leithen said:
I think if Woakes could stay fit (don't over bowl him), then there are enough seamers to mix and match for the other three bowling slots. He can bat.
Clearly we would want Anderson producing curving wonder balls, but perhaps the clever way to approach the series is to only pick him when the forecast offers some hope of a swinging masterclass.
And once again, don't over bowl anyone. It's buggered countless England prospects, Archer most recently. Seven bowlers, five or six over spells, no more, keep rotating them.
As an asside I was recently listening to Andersons book on Audible. He himself doesn't believe overcast conditions produce swing.Clearly we would want Anderson producing curving wonder balls, but perhaps the clever way to approach the series is to only pick him when the forecast offers some hope of a swinging masterclass.
And once again, don't over bowl anyone. It's buggered countless England prospects, Archer most recently. Seven bowlers, five or six over spells, no more, keep rotating them.
UTH said:
Scabutz said:
Leithen said:
I think if Woakes could stay fit (don't over bowl him), then there are enough seamers to mix and match for the other three bowling slots. He can bat.
Clearly we would want Anderson producing curving wonder balls, but perhaps the clever way to approach the series is to only pick him when the forecast offers some hope of a swinging masterclass.
And once again, don't over bowl anyone. It's buggered countless England prospects, Archer most recently. Seven bowlers, five or six over spells, no more, keep rotating them.
As an asside I was recently listening to Andersons book on Audible. He himself doesn't believe overcast conditions produce swing.Clearly we would want Anderson producing curving wonder balls, but perhaps the clever way to approach the series is to only pick him when the forecast offers some hope of a swinging masterclass.
And once again, don't over bowl anyone. It's buggered countless England prospects, Archer most recently. Seven bowlers, five or six over spells, no more, keep rotating them.
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