The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
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Great fight, Lomachenko the clear winner but I had a smaller margin in it than the judges, that score definitely doesn't reflect how well Campbell fought!
And Povetkin still effective even heading towards the tail end of his career.
Another decent night of boxing overall, thoroughly enjoyed
And Povetkin still effective even heading towards the tail end of his career.
Another decent night of boxing overall, thoroughly enjoyed
BigMacDaddy said:
Great fight, Lomachenko the clear winner but I had a smaller margin in it than the judges, that score definitely doesn't reflect how well Campbell fought!
And Povetkin still effective even heading towards the tail end of his career.
Another decent night of boxing overall, thoroughly enjoyed
Is Fury actually relevant at world level, or even 'international' level? I've never been impressed with him when he's fought at a level just below the best in the division. And Povetkin still effective even heading towards the tail end of his career.
Another decent night of boxing overall, thoroughly enjoyed
theboyfold said:
Is Fury actually relevant at world level, or even 'international' level? I've never been impressed with him when he's fought at a level just below the best in the division.
No I can't see him achieving anything noteworthy on his current/past form.... Still has a few years left in him though, might surprise us yet but I'm not putting any money on it 
Is anyone giving Ruiz a chance?
View from the commentators last time was that it was his speed that was causing problems - so that could still apply.
I just wonder if AJ will bulldoze his way through him
If I had to put a pound on it, I'd put it on AJ but wouldn't be surprised either way.
Thinking longer term for boxing it would prob be better if AJ won as we all want to see the Fury and Wilder fights.
View from the commentators last time was that it was his speed that was causing problems - so that could still apply.
I just wonder if AJ will bulldoze his way through him
If I had to put a pound on it, I'd put it on AJ but wouldn't be surprised either way.
Thinking longer term for boxing it would prob be better if AJ won as we all want to see the Fury and Wilder fights.
Mojooo said:
Is anyone giving Ruiz a chance?
View from the commentators last time was that it was his speed that was causing problems - so that could still apply.
I just wonder if AJ will bulldoze his way through him
If I had to put a pound on it, I'd put it on AJ but wouldn't be surprised either way.
Thinking longer term for boxing it would prob be better if AJ won as we all want to see the Fury and Wilder fights.
Yes of course he’s got a chance a big one. My biggest concern is that he’s been living the high life to much since and needs to get focussed on the rematch. View from the commentators last time was that it was his speed that was causing problems - so that could still apply.
I just wonder if AJ will bulldoze his way through him
If I had to put a pound on it, I'd put it on AJ but wouldn't be surprised either way.
Thinking longer term for boxing it would prob be better if AJ won as we all want to see the Fury and Wilder fights.
It wasn’t just his speed that caused him problems it was his boxing ability. It frustrates me greatly Joshua saying the punch that knocked him down was a lucky punch it was pure skill and adjustment by ruiz.
Joshua knocked Ruiz down with the same uppercut left hook that looked so good against Klitchko. He achieved that knockdown the first time he threw it, the second time he threw it Ruiz slipped it and the third time he threw it Ruiz countered and knocked Joshua down. That’s skill not luck. Ruiz has over 100 amateur fights and lost only 5, he has boxing ability in abundance.
Ruiz in my opinion has more ability to adjust during the fight, Joshua’s plan will likely be keeping Ruiz at range with quick one twos and nothing to flashy but if ruiz starts closing the range I’m not convinced he’s had the time to learn how to disrupt the flow.
Joshua should be better prepared, let’s face it he bulked and stiffened for a fairly static fight where a slow miller would try to walk him down.
Needed power to keep him off and put him down, we should see a much more fluid and mobile fighter this time.
Ruiz will be the same guy who’s used to taking on bigger, stronger guys so he won’t need to make too many changes
Needed power to keep him off and put him down, we should see a much more fluid and mobile fighter this time.
Ruiz will be the same guy who’s used to taking on bigger, stronger guys so he won’t need to make too many changes
NuckyThompson said:
Yes of course he’s got a chance a big one. My biggest concern is that he’s been living the high life to much since and needs to get focussed on the rematch.
It wasn’t just his speed that caused him problems it was his boxing ability. It frustrates me greatly Joshua saying the punch that knocked him down was a lucky punch it was pure skill and adjustment by ruiz.
Joshua knocked Ruiz down with the same uppercut left hook that looked so good against Klitchko. He achieved that knockdown the first time he threw it, the second time he threw it Ruiz slipped it and the third time he threw it Ruiz countered and knocked Joshua down. That’s skill not luck. Ruiz has over 100 amateur fights and lost only 5, he has boxing ability in abundance.
Ruiz in my opinion has more ability to adjust during the fight, Joshua’s plan will likely be keeping Ruiz at range with quick one twos and nothing to flashy but if ruiz starts closing the range I’m not convinced he’s had the time to learn how to disrupt the flow.
^ AgreedIt wasn’t just his speed that caused him problems it was his boxing ability. It frustrates me greatly Joshua saying the punch that knocked him down was a lucky punch it was pure skill and adjustment by ruiz.
Joshua knocked Ruiz down with the same uppercut left hook that looked so good against Klitchko. He achieved that knockdown the first time he threw it, the second time he threw it Ruiz slipped it and the third time he threw it Ruiz countered and knocked Joshua down. That’s skill not luck. Ruiz has over 100 amateur fights and lost only 5, he has boxing ability in abundance.
Ruiz in my opinion has more ability to adjust during the fight, Joshua’s plan will likely be keeping Ruiz at range with quick one twos and nothing to flashy but if ruiz starts closing the range I’m not convinced he’s had the time to learn how to disrupt the flow.
If AJ genuinely believes Ruiz got lucky in the first fight then I think he's in for a tough night. This fight could be really telling. Can AJ fight a completely different fight?
I was going to say that I'm a sucker for an underdog and so would like Ruiz to win again, but I'm not so sure he really is the underdog for this fight! Genuinely wouldn't mind who wins though as long as it's a good fight. My only worry is that if Joshua does regain the titles, will he then be even more cautious/averse to risky fights and therefore we don't get to see the top fighters meeting each other? Time will tell I guess, but nice to have a little bit of uncertainty in the division for a while at least!
Davos123 said:
pincher said:
Top right and bottom left where he has the same stance - his muscle mass looks pretty much identical to me.Top left he's standing at an angle to the camera and also the lighting is not good so he looks bigger and more defined. It's the same tactic as the scam gym transformation commercials use.
Can't ascertain much from a picture sitting down either. Bottom line: based on those pictures I don't think he looks any different at all.
I see that Nigel Benn is making a comeback at 55.Apparently his son says the contracts are signed and it's a former WBC champ who last boxed only a couple of years ago as Benn put it he's looking for closure.Sadly another ex fighter trying to recapture past glories ffs benn was totally shot in 96/97 when he boxed Collins and the fire had gone out then.
Lots of videos of Benn still looking tasty on the pads etc he has obviously kept himself in good nick since retirement but one thing looking good on the pads different getting in there and having the tools still to be effective at the rope old age of 55 father time even caught up with Hopkins and he had always kept active.Benn was a legend in British boxing but I sadly think it's a case of seeing his son boxing and his mind tricking him in training thinking I can still do this into getting back between the ropes.
Lots of videos of Benn still looking tasty on the pads etc he has obviously kept himself in good nick since retirement but one thing looking good on the pads different getting in there and having the tools still to be effective at the rope old age of 55 father time even caught up with Hopkins and he had always kept active.Benn was a legend in British boxing but I sadly think it's a case of seeing his son boxing and his mind tricking him in training thinking I can still do this into getting back between the ropes.
Oliver McCall as well https://fightnews.com/ex-champ-oliver-mccall-fight...
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