England cricket 2023 & 2024
Discussion
Kettmark said:
Challo said:
We don’t have a good enough team to be able to carry someone. Everyone in the team needs to pull their weight either with the bat or ball.
Totally agree but apart from Root, who did during the last test series?England Selectors have learned nothing from the Botham/Flintoff captaincy choices.
Stokes is a top man, and when you need a performance he has done it time and again for England. I think though his best days as a cricketer are behind him. If you pick Stokes - then you better be working on developing the next one. We will need them within 18 months.
Gargamel said:
England Selectors have learned nothing from the Botham/Flintoff captaincy choices.
Stokes is a top man, and when you need a performance he has done it time and again for England. I think though his best days as a cricketer are behind him. If you pick Stokes - then you better be working on developing the next one. We will need them within 18 months.
I’d rather they’d picked YJB. A similar feisty character but we can afford to have his career ruined by being Captain. We don’t have the same luxury with Stokes Stokes is a top man, and when you need a performance he has done it time and again for England. I think though his best days as a cricketer are behind him. If you pick Stokes - then you better be working on developing the next one. We will need them within 18 months.
Smollet said:
Gargamel said:
England Selectors have learned nothing from the Botham/Flintoff captaincy choices.
Stokes is a top man, and when you need a performance he has done it time and again for England. I think though his best days as a cricketer are behind him. If you pick Stokes - then you better be working on developing the next one. We will need them within 18 months.
I’d rather they’d picked YJB. A similar feisty character but we can afford to have his career ruined by being Captain. We don’t have the same luxury with Stokes Stokes is a top man, and when you need a performance he has done it time and again for England. I think though his best days as a cricketer are behind him. If you pick Stokes - then you better be working on developing the next one. We will need them within 18 months.
Poor choice. Indicative that the top brass are still clueless.
I think this will be detrimental to Stokes as a player, and a person - as mentioned above there's a whole load of extra pressure being captain and i dont think he's up to it - let him concentrate on being a great all-rounder.
It also doesnt help England in the longer term as we'll be in exactly the same position within 1-2 years, and probably still no further in finding a suitable replacement.
It also doesnt help England in the longer term as we'll be in exactly the same position within 1-2 years, and probably still no further in finding a suitable replacement.
jimmytheone said:
I think this will be detrimental to Stokes as a player, and a person - as mentioned above there's a whole load of extra pressure being captain and i dont think he's up to it - let him concentrate on being a great all-rounder.
It also doesnt help England in the longer term as we'll be in exactly the same position within 1-2 years, and probably still no further in finding a suitable replacement.
Agreed and we’ll be minus one excellent all rounder. It also doesnt help England in the longer term as we'll be in exactly the same position within 1-2 years, and probably still no further in finding a suitable replacement.
We only need to look at the lessons from making Botham and Flintoff captain to see that it's not the best idea in the history of English cricket, but who else could do the job?
Mike Brearley's probably past it now, we need another Oxbridge scholar who knows a bit about psychology, and how to man-manage and control a herd of cats, moulding them into a world-beating team.
Mike Brearley's probably past it now, we need another Oxbridge scholar who knows a bit about psychology, and how to man-manage and control a herd of cats, moulding them into a world-beating team.
Dermot O'Logical said:
We only need to look at the lessons from making Botham and Flintoff captain to see that it's not the best idea in the history of English cricket, but who else could do the job?
Mike Brearley's probably past it now, we need another Oxbridge scholar who knows a bit about psychology, and how to man-manage and control a herd of cats, moulding them into a world-beating team.
You are probably correct, sadly, but Smith did well for Australia until his stupid fall from grace.Mike Brearley's probably past it now, we need another Oxbridge scholar who knows a bit about psychology, and how to man-manage and control a herd of cats, moulding them into a world-beating team.
England will never select another Oxbridge scholar ... politically, or otherwise as the game has moved on and the system of producing cricketers from the higher echelons of society is probably illegal!!!
Keeping everything crossed that Ben can be 'lucky'!
Brendon McCullum (B-Mac) as test coach is probably the best staffing choice the ECB has made in a long time. He was hugely influential in raising New Zealands performance. It might take a few years to set up the talent pipeline but he's hard nosed enough to get them there.
speedy_thrills said:
Brendon McCullum (B-Mac) as test coach is probably the best staffing choice the ECB has made in a long time. He was hugely influential in raising New Zealands performance. It might take a few years to set up the talent pipeline but he's hard nosed enough to get them there.
Agreed. The issue is the number and quality of test players available to the team as you point out but this is definitely a step in the right direction.
James Anderson & Stuart Broad recalled by England for New Zealand Tests
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61445437
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61445437
Smollet said:
James Anderson & Stuart Broad recalled by England for New Zealand Tests
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61445437
Good, although with all of the young quicks falling over with back-related long term injuries, we had little choice.https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/61445437
Still. We're only playing New Zealand, who only just won the World Test Championship Final against India, so we should be fine.
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