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Variation back finally, got there in the end, just in time for the solid stock AKM I wanted to be sold out with no restock for the foreseeable future. Settled for a folding stock but if anyone with a solid stock version fancies a swap for an underfolder, let me know.
Just to add to what red_slr posted, I did my application last year:
I heard nothing at all for a very long time, the only reason I knew they'd received the application was because they'd cashed the cheque. The whole process took 8 months from me posting the application to my license dropping through my letterbox. However I'm under Thames Valley Police who are one of the worst in the country for turnaround time.
My referees were basically just quizzed on the personal aspects of my application, where does he live, what does he do, how long have you known him etc. Whilst they were asked their opinion of me as a person, neither were actually asked whether they thought I should be granted a license or not.
As far as I know my doctors weren't contacted, only because I asked them if there was a charge for a letter to the police before hand and they told me they'd contact me asking for payment when they received a police request, and I never did hear from them.
My home visit was quite icy, my FEO was very matter of fact, didn't want a cup of tea (I do think it's become a stereotype that you need to buy some fancy biscuits because you've got a home visit), she wasn't rude but did treat the visit as a serious occasion, ever since then however she's been a lot more jovial and friendly with me. She inspected my security arrangements, ran through my application to check it was as I intended and then ask for justifications for each firearm on there. Had a little back and forth about why I needed two .22s but accepted my reasons. In the end the only change was knocking one ammunition count down from 500 to 300. She also asked me to talk her through how I would transport my rifles to and from a range and warned me if I were to go through a breakup with my partner it might be wise to store my firearms at an RFD to prevent any false accusations that could lead to me losing my certificate. The only thing that did surprise me was she asked me if I'd had any interactions with the police, to which I said only what's on my application (a speeding ticket), she then pulled out a stack of paperwork and said 'what about these?' and they were all police reports for shoplifting from my old weekend job at a supermarket! Obviously I was only on them as the person who called the police or gave a statement but I was surprised that they still had them, especially as they let most of the shop lifters off!
At the time was a bit worried about being denied a certificate but looking back on it I had no reason to worry.
Just to add to what red_slr posted, I did my application last year:
I heard nothing at all for a very long time, the only reason I knew they'd received the application was because they'd cashed the cheque. The whole process took 8 months from me posting the application to my license dropping through my letterbox. However I'm under Thames Valley Police who are one of the worst in the country for turnaround time.
My referees were basically just quizzed on the personal aspects of my application, where does he live, what does he do, how long have you known him etc. Whilst they were asked their opinion of me as a person, neither were actually asked whether they thought I should be granted a license or not.
As far as I know my doctors weren't contacted, only because I asked them if there was a charge for a letter to the police before hand and they told me they'd contact me asking for payment when they received a police request, and I never did hear from them.
My home visit was quite icy, my FEO was very matter of fact, didn't want a cup of tea (I do think it's become a stereotype that you need to buy some fancy biscuits because you've got a home visit), she wasn't rude but did treat the visit as a serious occasion, ever since then however she's been a lot more jovial and friendly with me. She inspected my security arrangements, ran through my application to check it was as I intended and then ask for justifications for each firearm on there. Had a little back and forth about why I needed two .22s but accepted my reasons. In the end the only change was knocking one ammunition count down from 500 to 300. She also asked me to talk her through how I would transport my rifles to and from a range and warned me if I were to go through a breakup with my partner it might be wise to store my firearms at an RFD to prevent any false accusations that could lead to me losing my certificate. The only thing that did surprise me was she asked me if I'd had any interactions with the police, to which I said only what's on my application (a speeding ticket), she then pulled out a stack of paperwork and said 'what about these?' and they were all police reports for shoplifting from my old weekend job at a supermarket! Obviously I was only on them as the person who called the police or gave a statement but I was surprised that they still had them, especially as they let most of the shop lifters off!
At the time was a bit worried about being denied a certificate but looking back on it I had no reason to worry.
I’m Looking at cabinets etc and looking at either bsa or brattonsound. I can get a larger bsa
one for the cost of a smaller brattonsound. Are the bsa ones decent enough and comparable to brattonsound which seem popular.
Also been looking at the gdk / dirty-pro tools ones which do seem quite cheap.
Any recommendations on either or know of a better alternative?
Looking to spend around the £200 mark for a 5/6 gun with ammo compartment.
one for the cost of a smaller brattonsound. Are the bsa ones decent enough and comparable to brattonsound which seem popular.
Also been looking at the gdk / dirty-pro tools ones which do seem quite cheap.
Any recommendations on either or know of a better alternative?
Looking to spend around the £200 mark for a 5/6 gun with ammo compartment.
Geffg said:
I’m Looking at cabinets etc and looking at either bsa or brattonsound. I can get a larger bsa
one for the cost of a smaller brattonsound. Are the bsa ones decent enough and comparable to brattonsound which seem popular.
Also been looking at the gdk / dirty-pro tools ones which do seem quite cheap.
Any recommendations on either or know of a better alternative?
Looking to spend around the £200 mark for a 5/6 gun with ammo compartment.
My mate has got the BSA ones, and I've got Brattonsound, largely after seeing his BSA ones.one for the cost of a smaller brattonsound. Are the bsa ones decent enough and comparable to brattonsound which seem popular.
Also been looking at the gdk / dirty-pro tools ones which do seem quite cheap.
Any recommendations on either or know of a better alternative?
Looking to spend around the £200 mark for a 5/6 gun with ammo compartment.
He's happy enough with his BSA ones, but, they are cheaper than Brattonsound for a reason.
Yer pays yer money and takes yer choice as they say.
With safes they are all very similar. The extra cost usually brings in extra features like shelves or some kind of storage system, internal lock box, better locks, carpet, lighting etc.
Brattonsound get good reviews and are generally not that expensive.
I have a JFC. Its just a simple safe with top box. Keep meaning to put some lighting in it!
I also have a cheap B&Q safe next to the gun safe for ammo. I trigger lock my guns too I like to have that extra layer of protection as I don't like taking bolts in and out.. I have lost count of the number of times people have turned upto the club with their rifle and no bolt!
Brattonsound get good reviews and are generally not that expensive.
I have a JFC. Its just a simple safe with top box. Keep meaning to put some lighting in it!
I also have a cheap B&Q safe next to the gun safe for ammo. I trigger lock my guns too I like to have that extra layer of protection as I don't like taking bolts in and out.. I have lost count of the number of times people have turned upto the club with their rifle and no bolt!
1. Get a deep model of safe (they usually come in standard or deep).
Once you get a couple of rifles with scopes on them you'll realise why that's better from the start!
2. Get a safe much, much bigger than you think you need.
Once you get a couple more guns you'll realise why that's better from the start!
Once you get a couple of rifles with scopes on them you'll realise why that's better from the start!
2. Get a safe much, much bigger than you think you need.
Once you get a couple more guns you'll realise why that's better from the start!
A new member of the family this week. I bought my first gun in August when I took up clay shooting. It’s an ATA Sporter, a Turkish 686 clone pretty much. Dark wood and all Matt black action and barrels. No frills at all. Perfectly decent gun and shoots well enough but I always hankered after a Beretta after trying a couple out.
Bought a 690 Field III as my second gun. It’s gorgeous. Feels so svelte and well made compared to the agricultural ATA. Just need the bloody snow and wind to go away so I can go and shoot it!
Bought a 690 Field III as my second gun. It’s gorgeous. Feels so svelte and well made compared to the agricultural ATA. Just need the bloody snow and wind to go away so I can go and shoot it!
Edited by Jezzerh on Sunday 18th March 19:56
Edited by Jezzerh on Sunday 18th March 19:56
The cover letter that came with new varied certificate states:
'You are reminded the disposal of a firearm does not authorise a replacement to be obtained unless your certificate has been varied for that purpose.'
Now does that mean, for example, that if I were to buy a 7.92 Mauser and then 6 months later find a better one I'd rather own, I can't just trade in my current one at the RFD and buy their one?
Or do I have to sell my current one to the RFD/someone else, notify the police and then put in a variation saying I want another one?
Or is it stating the obvious of just because you've sold your 7.92 you can't go out and buy a .308?
'You are reminded the disposal of a firearm does not authorise a replacement to be obtained unless your certificate has been varied for that purpose.'
Now does that mean, for example, that if I were to buy a 7.92 Mauser and then 6 months later find a better one I'd rather own, I can't just trade in my current one at the RFD and buy their one?
Or do I have to sell my current one to the RFD/someone else, notify the police and then put in a variation saying I want another one?
Or is it stating the obvious of just because you've sold your 7.92 you can't go out and buy a .308?
Hoppum said:
The cover letter that came with new varied certificate states:
'You are reminded the disposal of a firearm does not authorise a replacement to be obtained unless your certificate has been varied for that purpose.'
Now does that mean, for example, that if I were to buy a 7.92 Mauser and then 6 months later find a better one I'd rather own, I can't just trade in my current one at the RFD and buy their one?
Correct.'You are reminded the disposal of a firearm does not authorise a replacement to be obtained unless your certificate has been varied for that purpose.'
Now does that mean, for example, that if I were to buy a 7.92 Mauser and then 6 months later find a better one I'd rather own, I can't just trade in my current one at the RFD and buy their one?
Hoppum said:
Or do I have to sell my current one to the RFD/someone else, notify the police and then put in a variation saying I want another one?
Yes, can be done that way, or you can apply beforehand for the 1 for 1 variation telling them the one you want to get rid of, if you know that you are going to do a part ex-with a RFD for example.This would be fine, if all forces could turn around 1 for 1 variations in a week (or as some allow, in person over the counter) but when some 1 for 1 variations can take 1-3 months or longer with some forces, it all becomes a bit of a pain in the arse.
Volunteered at my local gun club this weekend to help tidy things up, repair a few bits and help make it wheelchair accessible. Realized I've not actually shot for over 6 months but the good news is they're trialing opening on weekends. That really works for me so I've put my name down to volunteer to help it be a success as mid-week night shooting is a real struggle with work.
To help my motivation, I've also stumbled across the release of the Ruger Precision rim-fire, and now I really want one, so time to get in some regular range-time and finally get off my backside and apply for my FAC!
Precision .22
Quick question on that...The Precision rim-fire is a .22 version of their full-bore (6.5 Creedmoor or .308). My club doesn't have the range for full-bore but does go to Bisley regularly. Do you think I'd be able to justify putting the big-boy on my first application as well as two .22s? (The bolt action precision and a fun Carbine)?
Precision Rifle
I also fancy starting clay-shooting but will need to join another club for that. How easy is it to add a shot-gun onto my licence later?
To help my motivation, I've also stumbled across the release of the Ruger Precision rim-fire, and now I really want one, so time to get in some regular range-time and finally get off my backside and apply for my FAC!
Precision .22
Quick question on that...The Precision rim-fire is a .22 version of their full-bore (6.5 Creedmoor or .308). My club doesn't have the range for full-bore but does go to Bisley regularly. Do you think I'd be able to justify putting the big-boy on my first application as well as two .22s? (The bolt action precision and a fun Carbine)?
Precision Rifle
I also fancy starting clay-shooting but will need to join another club for that. How easy is it to add a shot-gun onto my licence later?
You should be able to apply to apply for your SGC at same time making them co-terminous.....and probably not need to apply to join a specific club to do that, as long as there is a pay n play clay facility within reasonable distance?
If you club regularily shoots at Bisley then no reason why you can't apply for full-bore at same time, unless you club doesn't allow you to?
Have you gone to Bisley with them to shoot full bore as part of your probationary/training?
If you club regularily shoots at Bisley then no reason why you can't apply for full-bore at same time, unless you club doesn't allow you to?
Have you gone to Bisley with them to shoot full bore as part of your probationary/training?
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