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Flash hiders are indeed section 1 items. Only exception being if its physically part of the make up of the firearm. If its welded on it has to go to proof with it on.
So your boggo A1 flash hider that's seen on almost everything out there (AR15 wise) is not legal without a slot. Which is why no one calls it an A1 flash hider. They just call it a muzzle brake. Its a bit of a joke, but from what I understand its just something else that could be used against us down the line to try and restrict "fun time".
If anyone is bored enough to want to read up on it then its s..57 of the Firearms Act 1968.
So your boggo A1 flash hider that's seen on almost everything out there (AR15 wise) is not legal without a slot. Which is why no one calls it an A1 flash hider. They just call it a muzzle brake. Its a bit of a joke, but from what I understand its just something else that could be used against us down the line to try and restrict "fun time".
If anyone is bored enough to want to read up on it then its s..57 of the Firearms Act 1968.
FurtiveFreddy said:
aeropilot said:
I was under the impression (been told) that the 'service' bit meant, exactly that.......a service rifle? and the C bit was civilian as in the shooter, rather than the gun....?
Still wouldn't mind having a go at something to make more use of the No.5 though...... as it's no a target rifle
Seeing as straight pull SA80s are a bit hard to come by, that would be tricky.Still wouldn't mind having a go at something to make more use of the No.5 though...... as it's no a target rifle
FurtiveFreddy said:
Maybe whoever you were talking to was referring to the historics?
Probably, and just assumed it was what all CSR was, as I have little interest in any 'modern' firearm.....and by modern, I mean pretty much anything designed post WW2, or at least anything doesn't have at least a bit of old tree used in its construction red_slr said:
Flash hiders are indeed section 1 items. Only exception being if its physically part of the make up of the firearm. If its welded on it has to go to proof with it on.
So your boggo A1 flash hider that's seen on almost everything out there (AR15 wise) is not legal without a slot. Which is why no one calls it an A1 flash hider. They just call it a muzzle brake. Its a bit of a joke, but from what I understand its just something else that could be used against us down the line to try and restrict "fun time".
If anyone is bored enough to want to read up on it then its s..57 of the Firearms Act 1968.
Strange? We bough a shedload of No5 flash-hiders without any problems. Also, one would assume they would have serial numbers, which of course they don't. They were being made as a spare in India and imported - no issues.So your boggo A1 flash hider that's seen on almost everything out there (AR15 wise) is not legal without a slot. Which is why no one calls it an A1 flash hider. They just call it a muzzle brake. Its a bit of a joke, but from what I understand its just something else that could be used against us down the line to try and restrict "fun time".
If anyone is bored enough to want to read up on it then its s..57 of the Firearms Act 1968.
My cans don't have s/n's but they are on my ticket as "NVN".
I personally think the flash hider thing is old hat and I think many FEOs have turned / do turn a blind eye as its not really a big deal esp if you have an FAC.
However someone was charged (non FAC holder) and challenged it at the high court (Yong v R [2015] EWCA Crim 852) and they lost.
A couple of years ago someone off Full Bore wrote to the Home Office asking for clarification and they said that flash suppressors are FAC items. (why someone would want to remind them I don't know!) Bit like the Pete Moore "SGC AR15 foot in mouth" incident from GunMart Tv...... "Hi I'm Pete Moore... WATCH THIS... pewpewpewpewpewpew".... 6 months later all hell brakes loose lets ban MARS / SGC.
Like I said I think that they are keeping the law on the books as they can use it down the line to cause us problems.
There was a suggestion a few years ago that all suppressors would become non FAC items but it did not happen.
I personally think the flash hider thing is old hat and I think many FEOs have turned / do turn a blind eye as its not really a big deal esp if you have an FAC.
However someone was charged (non FAC holder) and challenged it at the high court (Yong v R [2015] EWCA Crim 852) and they lost.
A couple of years ago someone off Full Bore wrote to the Home Office asking for clarification and they said that flash suppressors are FAC items. (why someone would want to remind them I don't know!) Bit like the Pete Moore "SGC AR15 foot in mouth" incident from GunMart Tv...... "Hi I'm Pete Moore... WATCH THIS... pewpewpewpewpewpew".... 6 months later all hell brakes loose lets ban MARS / SGC.
Like I said I think that they are keeping the law on the books as they can use it down the line to cause us problems.
There was a suggestion a few years ago that all suppressors would become non FAC items but it did not happen.
creampuff said:
^ That's just depressing. And inconsistent. Why are flash hiders Section 1 and muzzle brakes are uncontrolled? Or am I missing something and muzzle brakes are controlled?
No, it's flash hiders that are controlled, as suppressors.As to why, best ask the Home Office, not that you'll get a sensible answer to that.
https://ukshootingnews.wordpress.com/2015/07/23/fl...
I think this all stems from the U.S. position which was/is in some states that it's a military feature and in a civilian active shooter situation it could help the shooter evade detection.
I think this all stems from the U.S. position which was/is in some states that it's a military feature and in a civilian active shooter situation it could help the shooter evade detection.
FurtiveFreddy said:
https://ukshootingnews.wordpress.com/2015/07/23/fl...
I think this all stems from the U.S. position which was/is in some states that it's a military feature and in a civilian active shooter situation it could help the shooter evade detection.
Yes, that was the conclusion on FB forum when it was discussed IIRC.I think this all stems from the U.S. position which was/is in some states that it's a military feature and in a civilian active shooter situation it could help the shooter evade detection.
I've been watching this guy, who does only have half a clue about guns and half a clue about safety. Anyway he has fired a 50BMW straight up in and timed the return of the bullet. This was in the desert and he used exploding ammo so he could hear the bullet impact. Ahhh Murcia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY7jZia2dXQ
Anyway I'm trying to calculate how high the bullet went. Standard ballistic calculators don't work as they can't handle very steep shooting angles or the reducing air density and therefore reducing drag with increasing altitude.
Anyone know how to calculate how high does a 50BMG go?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY7jZia2dXQ
Anyway I'm trying to calculate how high the bullet went. Standard ballistic calculators don't work as they can't handle very steep shooting angles or the reducing air density and therefore reducing drag with increasing altitude.
Anyone know how to calculate how high does a 50BMG go?
creampuff said:
I've been watching this guy, who does only have half a clue about guns and half a clue about safety. Anyway he has fired a 50BMW straight up in and timed the return of the bullet. This was in the desert and he used exploding ammo so he could hear the bullet impact. Ahhh Murcia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY7jZia2dXQ
Anyway I'm trying to calculate how high the bullet went. Standard ballistic calculators don't work as they can't handle very steep shooting angles or the reducing air density and therefore reducing drag with increasing altitude.
Anyone know how to calculate how high does a 50BMG go?
https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/2ei4i4/how_high_vertically_can_a_50_cal_shoot_straight/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY7jZia2dXQ
Anyway I'm trying to calculate how high the bullet went. Standard ballistic calculators don't work as they can't handle very steep shooting angles or the reducing air density and therefore reducing drag with increasing altitude.
Anyone know how to calculate how high does a 50BMG go?
Pinch of salt required, but the maths works.
^ The replies in the Reddit thread come up with 37km, but that ignores air resistance, so will be completely inaccurate. I think I did a back-of-the envelope calc once and worked out the average deceleration on a .308 bullet in flight to moderate ranges is a whopping 30G. Almost all due to air resistance, so ignoring air resistance won't be accurate at all.
I could write an Excel spreadsheet or do some integral calculus to calculate the answer, but this would mark an unwelcome return to university level maths which I'd like to avoid
I could write an Excel spreadsheet or do some integral calculus to calculate the answer, but this would mark an unwelcome return to university level maths which I'd like to avoid
Do we even know which load he was using, bullet weight, powder charge to even start such a calculation, bullet coefficient ?
He didn’t even appear to use any sort of device to make sure it was shooting straight up his phone would have worked so we don’t even know starting angle and that’s got to make a large difference.
He didn’t even appear to use any sort of device to make sure it was shooting straight up his phone would have worked so we don’t even know starting angle and that’s got to make a large difference.
He does some really good videos. The cockpit door was interesting, I never knew they were built so strong and part of me wonders if it was just overkill on specs but there you go.
As for how high. I am sure I read in the comments somewhere that its going to be about 20k feet and the trip up there just a few seconds and the rest of the time is it coming back down.
As for how high. I am sure I read in the comments somewhere that its going to be about 20k feet and the trip up there just a few seconds and the rest of the time is it coming back down.
red_slr said:
Also for gun videos my favourites are
Demolition Ranch
Garand Thumb
John Lovell
22plinkster
Travis Haley
Iraqveteran8888
Reid Henrichs
Trigger Time TV
I have a lot of time for content with Jeff Gonzales, Pat McNamara, Dave Harrington etc.
Give Paul Harrell a try, Demolition Ranch
Garand Thumb
John Lovell
22plinkster
Travis Haley
Iraqveteran8888
Reid Henrichs
Trigger Time TV
I have a lot of time for content with Jeff Gonzales, Pat McNamara, Dave Harrington etc.
Really enjoy his style, hi explanation of the famous fbi shootout is worth a watch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iv8cByaVyNQ
Also mac or millitary arms channel
Edited by Pesty on Thursday 17th May 20:39
It’s a good analysis of a historical event. We are not talking blowing up fridges with binary explosives and full auto ARs it’s pretty dry but he knows his stuff I think.
I do enjoy his other videos too. I try and mimic his style in presentations
You be the judge.
I like the meat target and hi tech fleece bullet stop.
I do enjoy his other videos too. I try and mimic his style in presentations
You be the judge.
I like the meat target and hi tech fleece bullet stop.
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