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slow_poke said:
Cheers Pesty. Been reading the same myself, which actually makes me a little bit wary.... It might just be hype, the round is so new.
Npt far ballistically from 260 Remington isn’t it? Also read that they’ve been using 6.5 for years on the Scandinavian countries.I’ve only used murine once at paper so no idea really
chemistry said:
Sounds great BUT unless you own (or have permission to shoot on) the woodland, please don't rely on it as an overshoot, as if a pellet leaves your land it's a serious offense.
Do you know which bit of legluslation covers that event? Is it the Firearms Act or something else?
LotusMartin said:
Halb said:
Shotgun certificates; do they cover all shotguns owned by the holder, or just one?
All, they just need to be transferred to your certificate and Police FAO notified. Obviously you need a cabinet big enough to securely keep them all. Ultimately this leads to my main area of inquiry, which is if one wished to sell shotguns at a shotgun auction. The licence is produced I suppose, but I wasn't sure of the detail of the thing, or the minutiae of the regulations in auctions.
Halb said:
Thank you for that. Do the serial numbers actually appear on the certificate, or is it just info kept by the local Police FAO.
Ultimately this leads to my main area of inquiry, which is if one wished to sell shotguns at a shotgun auction. The licence is produced I suppose, but I wasn't sure of the detail of the thing, or the minutiae of the regulations in auctions.
Make, calibre, type and serial number all appear on the holder’s certificate.Ultimately this leads to my main area of inquiry, which is if one wished to sell shotguns at a shotgun auction. The licence is produced I suppose, but I wasn't sure of the detail of the thing, or the minutiae of the regulations in auctions.
slow_poke said:
red_slr said:
slow_poke said:
6.5 Creedmore as a red deer round - any experience based opinions? I'm currently using a .243 Win.
Do you intend to load your own?If <500 yards and not home loading I would stick with 243.
Halb said:
Thank you for that. Do the serial numbers actually appear on the certificate, or is it just info kept by the local Police FAO.
Ultimately this leads to my main area of inquiry, which is if one wished to sell shotguns at a shotgun auction. The licence is produced I suppose, but I wasn't sure of the detail of the thing, or the minutiae of the regulations in auctions.
The auction house will be an RFD so they can hold your shotguns.Ultimately this leads to my main area of inquiry, which is if one wished to sell shotguns at a shotgun auction. The licence is produced I suppose, but I wasn't sure of the detail of the thing, or the minutiae of the regulations in auctions.
red_slr said:
slow_poke said:
red_slr said:
slow_poke said:
6.5 Creedmore as a red deer round - any experience based opinions? I'm currently using a .243 Win.
Do you intend to load your own?If <500 yards and not home loading I would stick with 243.
Plus, the .243 is excellent for a well placed shot but I'd like the comfort of a bit of reserve punch if placement is ever less than perfect.
I don't think I'd be taking a shot at a deer out to 500. I'm comfortable to 200 with the .243. over 250 or 300 I won't take the shot.
It's that gap between 200 and 300 I'd like to fill.
Seems pretty clear cut
https://www.swggun.org/6-5-creedmoor-vs-243/#Stopp...
Some of these have more energy at 200 yards than 243 at the muzzle
For the 6.5 CM, we would go with the Winchester Expedition Big Game Long Range 142gr round. It features tremendous ballistic properties that are highly similar to the match grade 6.5 CM ammunition and even surpassed them with its incredible .719 BC. The bullet energy with this round is also incredible with nearly 1,500ft.lb still associated with the bullet at 500 yards. This energy, with the velocity, and controlled expansion bullet gives you a big game round with extended range.
https://www.swggun.org/6-5-creedmoor-vs-243/#Stopp...
Some of these have more energy at 200 yards than 243 at the muzzle
For the 6.5 CM, we would go with the Winchester Expedition Big Game Long Range 142gr round. It features tremendous ballistic properties that are highly similar to the match grade 6.5 CM ammunition and even surpassed them with its incredible .719 BC. The bullet energy with this round is also incredible with nearly 1,500ft.lb still associated with the bullet at 500 yards. This energy, with the velocity, and controlled expansion bullet gives you a big game round with extended range.
Edited by Pesty on Sunday 14th October 00:35
Pesty said:
slow_poke said:
Cheers Pesty. Been reading the same myself, which actually makes me a little bit wary.... It might just be hype, the round is so new.
Npt far ballistically from 260 Remington isn’t it? Also read that they’ve been using 6.5 for years on the Scandinavian countries.
6.5cm is very similar to 260rem and 6.5x55 which are well proven hunting rounds. And essentially halfway between 243 and 7mm08 if you want to look at it that way.
Edited by GravelBen on Sunday 14th October 08:54
Police visited yesterday for a 1st visit and to give me some advice on locating a safe for my shotgun grant.
Had a little interview and he said he would approve; so now the wait begins until his boss signs it off (hopefully).
Have a lesson on the 2nd Nov and to try out various guns to see what I like
Looking forward to starting (only clays).
Had a little interview and he said he would approve; so now the wait begins until his boss signs it off (hopefully).
Have a lesson on the 2nd Nov and to try out various guns to see what I like
Looking forward to starting (only clays).
For those of you used to shooting centrefire what would be your suggested step up from rimfire hmr perhaps for long range rabbits and occasional fox?
I love my hmr .17 but it is often wind affected where we shoot on large open areas.
Aware of various pros and cons arguments as such and thinking of applying for something a little larger. Some of the land we shoot on is passed for centrefire calibre. I'm still on a restricted ticket but at renewal planning to ask for something additional.
No deer shooting planned as yet but further down the line I may have access to occasional deer so that would be a further calibre step at that point.
I love my hmr .17 but it is often wind affected where we shoot on large open areas.
Aware of various pros and cons arguments as such and thinking of applying for something a little larger. Some of the land we shoot on is passed for centrefire calibre. I'm still on a restricted ticket but at renewal planning to ask for something additional.
No deer shooting planned as yet but further down the line I may have access to occasional deer so that would be a further calibre step at that point.
.22-250 or .223/.222 with cans would be my first thought but depends on what the land is approved for AND your local forces opinion on suitability but for foxes (IMHO not your FEO!) etc they would be ideal.
Sometimes people use .243 for foxes but some forces are not keen, others OK. You will generally need to state deer to get .243 and sometimes might be a no if XP is lacking so then you are back to square one.
If it were me I would go with .22-250 first as its a very well known fox round.
Sometimes people use .243 for foxes but some forces are not keen, others OK. You will generally need to state deer to get .243 and sometimes might be a no if XP is lacking so then you are back to square one.
If it were me I would go with .22-250 first as its a very well known fox round.
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