The Tennis Thread

The Tennis Thread

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nickfrog

21,358 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Baron Greenback said:
Agreed something missing in ER game and Garcia is playing well.
She doesn't have the support team that she needs if she has ambitions. And I don't mean just a coach.

She has too much pressure from those sponsorship deals that were perhaps signed a little early, but I think the blame should be on IMG. But then again she might have done well signing them early in a way, I just hope not and that she has a proper future in the sport.

McGee_22

6,767 posts

181 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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nickfrog said:
She doesn't have the support team that she needs if she has ambitions. And I don't mean just a coach.

She has too much pressure from those sponsorship deals that were perhaps signed a little early, but I think the blame should be on IMG. But then again she might have done well signing them early in a way, I just hope not and that she has a proper future in the sport.
I don't think the sponsorship has anything to do with it - she just seems to be training and practising in a different way that perhaps has let go of the basics that got her to the final of the US Open. I think any slo-mo sports analysis of her body response times from last year to this year would show a marked deterioration and based on her performance today there seems an attitude now that she perhaps doesn't have to prepare and anticipate for every ball to be rapidly returned or to chase down every ball - add that to the critical amount of times she blasted the ball too low into her own side of the net, even in the centre of the court, and you have the performance you got today.

CG played well today but I wouldn't say brilliantly - she just found a slow, flat, error making opponent and quite rightly took full advantage of the circumstances.

Baron Greenback

7,025 posts

152 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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nickfrog said:
Baron Greenback said:
Agreed something missing in ER game and Garcia is playing well.
She doesn't have the support team that she needs if she has ambitions. And I don't mean just a coach.
Agreed and glad she is taking time,the last coach was rushed and wrong for her. Hard getting the right coach. She is young and plenty of time.

Murray v Islner match just started shoube a corker of battle.

McGee_22

6,767 posts

181 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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dibbers006 said:
Murray is objectively a much better player, but Isner has unlocked some sort of cheat code for tennis which makes him an absolute monster.

How can Andy hope to overcome this when he can't get out the killing zone to begin with.
Head to head Murray is 8-0 up so there is a way to defeat the serve machine - but it does take patience.

Isner has been up to number 8 in the world but has only ever got to a single GS semi final.

MiniMan64

17,005 posts

192 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Going to take something special to turn this around.

That giant serve is certainty firing.

SydneyBridge

8,695 posts

160 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Got a set back.
Doesn't closing the roof slow the ball down? May help Murray

jules_s

4,327 posts

235 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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SydneyBridge said:
Got a set back.
Doesn't closing the roof slow the ball down? May help Murray
Looks like the roof is imminent

I wonder if anybody has ever measured how much energy AM wastes between points? I get Adrenalin etc but he's so OTT here

Cobracc

3,362 posts

152 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Is there any way to turn the appalling BBC commentary off...?

paulguitar

23,934 posts

115 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Cobracc said:
Is there any way to turn the appalling BBC commentary off...?
Yes.

Mute.

I do it to Croft every F1 weekend...

Cobracc

3,362 posts

152 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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paulguitar said:
Cobracc said:
Is there any way to turn the appalling BBC commentary off...?
Yes.

Mute.

I do it to Croft every F1 weekend...
laugh I still want to hear the players hitting the ball and the crowd..! Some of the rubbish Andrew Castle and John Inverdale come out with is just unnecessary drivel to fill every void of silence.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Cobracc said:
paulguitar said:
Cobracc said:
Is there any way to turn the appalling BBC commentary off...?
Yes.

Mute.

I do it to Croft every F1 weekend...
laugh I still want to hear the players hitting the ball and the crowd..! Some of the rubbish Andrew Castle and John Inverdale come out with is just unnecessary drivel to fill every void of silence.
Blimey, I’d love to mute the crowd. Another disrespectful bunch on centre tonight.

Edit: Isner says they were respectful. Okay laugh

Japveesix

4,493 posts

170 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Shame Murray lost but I just gained a lot of respect for Isner. Some of the most gracious and humble post match words I've ever heard anyone say. Nice chap.

cerb4.5lee

31,012 posts

182 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Japveesix said:
Shame Murray lost but I just gained a lot of respect for Isner. Some of the most gracious and humble post match words I've ever heard anyone say. Nice chap.
Agree, and he came across very well for sure. I'd hate to play against someone who serves like he does though, and it must be seriously demoralising I reckon.

Rider007

213 posts

96 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Doesn't help with Murrays support team of grumpy wife, grumpy mum and grumpy coach. Oh and grumpy Andy blaming everyone else but himself.

Robbo66

3,839 posts

235 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Agree. Just biblically sour. Constantly.

RichB

51,803 posts

286 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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didn't listen to Murray, turned over, but Isner came across very well indeed.

Scabutz

7,733 posts

82 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Isner is 6'10". I'm 6'5", there is a pretty good chance in any room I'm the tallest by a long shot. But he's almost half a foot taller. fking mad.

Also what did he do to ps off the basketball coach that he ended up playing tennis

over_the_hill

3,190 posts

248 months

Wednesday 29th June 2022
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Scabutz said:
Isner is 6'10". I'm 6'5", there is a pretty good chance in any room I'm the tallest by a long shot. But he's almost half a foot taller. fking mad.

Also what did he do to ps off the basketball coach that he ended up playing tennis
So when he serves and stretches up at full arms length plus the racquet, the ball is probably coming down at you
from about 11-12 feet in the air

Skeptisk

7,633 posts

111 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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over_the_hill said:
Scabutz said:
Isner is 6'10". I'm 6'5", there is a pretty good chance in any room I'm the tallest by a long shot. But he's almost half a foot taller. fking mad.

Also what did he do to ps off the basketball coach that he ended up playing tennis
So when he serves and stretches up at full arms length plus the racquet, the ball is probably coming down at you
from about 11-12 feet in the air
At a recent tournament Isner played doubles with Schwartzman, who at 5 foot 7 is about the smallest person on tour. The height and size difference was comical. When they were at the far end (so Isner was furthest away from the camera) then even when Swartzman was at the net and Isner was receiving, Isner was bigger on screen. Felt like an optical illusion. Dougal would have been even more confused…”this one is small, those out there are far away” wouldn’t have worked!

Bright Halo

3,028 posts

237 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Isner is defying the aging process, just getting better the older he is. 37 now and playing like he is in his mid twenties.
I know it is a cliché but he does move well for a big fella.
The third set showed how the top guys inc Murray normally handle Isner. Hold your own serve then out manoeuvre him in the tie break.
Murray just not consistent enough during the other sets. I think if he had met him a round or two later he would have done it.

Isner will be a challenge to anyone this year playing like that.
Good luck to him, would love to see him take a top scalp.