6 Nations 2015
Discussion
irocfan said:
a311 said:
I’d agree he’s a bit of a liability in my eyes. I could live with his flakiness if he did a bit more in attack he’s murdered a few chances in my eyes. He does have genuine pace but needs to back himself more often as he spends far too much time running across the field rather than forwards towards the try line. He also seems to dance on the spot a bit trying to step but is too big and lanky to sell it to the opposition.
There aren’t a great number of other options in my eyes that have at least some experience. Christian Wade has defensive question marks and a lack of international experience. I’d put Jack Nowell in, he doesn’t score that many but is overall a very solid all round player with a good boot. Pre –tournament I’d have said just to stick some solid defensive options for all the ball they were actually getting with Fazlet at #10. The Midfield seems to firing more these days though.
given May's defensive issues I'd go for Wade all day long (in as much as he also has defensive issues but at least he knows where to damn well run!) or Ashton or Nowell or Strettle or Roko (albeit he's injured?)There aren’t a great number of other options in my eyes that have at least some experience. Christian Wade has defensive question marks and a lack of international experience. I’d put Jack Nowell in, he doesn’t score that many but is overall a very solid all round player with a good boot. Pre –tournament I’d have said just to stick some solid defensive options for all the ball they were actually getting with Fazlet at #10. The Midfield seems to firing more these days though.
Having watched him at Wasps and also his few chances for England, there is definitely genuine excitement when Wade gets the ball, especially in space! It is almost tangible. Imagine the oppo defence? Winger scared to go in on him, back tow simply has to go and cover as he beats so many first up tackles, outside centre has to keep an eye on him as he simply can't trust the FB to take him down? Well by my reckoning, that's four people thinking about wade! (FB knows he may be skinned so will naturally position himself accordingly depending on his best covering defensive technique - ie use the touch line and shepherd or trust your technique and go in hard early and be made a fool etc)
Defensively, he simply isn't that bad and on occasion he goes inside for the tackle and looks an idiot by losing yo an overlap but when you look at this at Wasps, it is sometimes 3 on 1 and he has to pick something and someone
Slaav said:
Whilst absolutely not a Jason Robinson, when was the last time the crowd sits forward with a sharp intake of breath before Wade?
Having watched him at Wasps and also his few chances for England, there is definitely genuine excitement when Wade gets the ball, especially in space! It is almost tangible. Imagine the oppo defence? Winger scared to go in on him, back tow simply has to go and cover as he beats so many first up tackles, outside centre has to keep an eye on him as he simply can't trust the FB to take him down? Well by my reckoning, that's four people thinking about wade! (FB knows he may be skinned so will naturally position himself accordingly depending on his best covering defensive technique - ie use the touch line and shepherd or trust your technique and go in hard early and be made a fool etc)
Defensively, he simply isn't that bad and on occasion he goes inside for the tackle and looks an idiot by losing yo an overlap but when you look at this at Wasps, it is sometimes 3 on 1 and he has to pick something and someone
I agree 100%. I have been rambling on about him for a few years. Having watched him at Wasps and also his few chances for England, there is definitely genuine excitement when Wade gets the ball, especially in space! It is almost tangible. Imagine the oppo defence? Winger scared to go in on him, back tow simply has to go and cover as he beats so many first up tackles, outside centre has to keep an eye on him as he simply can't trust the FB to take him down? Well by my reckoning, that's four people thinking about wade! (FB knows he may be skinned so will naturally position himself accordingly depending on his best covering defensive technique - ie use the touch line and shepherd or trust your technique and go in hard early and be made a fool etc)
Defensively, he simply isn't that bad and on occasion he goes inside for the tackle and looks an idiot by losing yo an overlap but when you look at this at Wasps, it is sometimes 3 on 1 and he has to pick something and someone
I know quite a few people "in the game" and none of them agree with me, but I'd have him in the side all day long.
I like the idea of Wade and JJ in the same side with Watson on the other side, BUT only with Brown behind them and not facing Sexton and Bowe. They are playing a very risk averse game at the moment, targeted kicks over the back line to the back 3. It's a defensive back three game when you face Ireland at the moment.
Nowell is the best defensive wing atm, despite offering bugger all in terms of attack.
Nowell is the best defensive wing atm, despite offering bugger all in terms of attack.
DJRC said:
I like the idea of Wade and JJ in the same side with Watson on the other side, BUT only with Brown behind them and not facing Sexton and Bowe. They are playing a very risk averse game at the moment, targeted kicks over the back line to the back 3. It's a defensive back three game when you face Ireland at the moment.
Nowell is the best defensive wing atm, despite offering bugger all in terms of attack.
Yep...the Ireland aerial game is quite scary good at the moment. Nowell is the best defensive wing atm, despite offering bugger all in terms of attack.
possibly, used to play fly half.
interesting article about him here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
interesting article about him here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
steveT350C said:
possibly, used to play fly half.
interesting article about him here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
it is an interesting article but I tend to agree with this comment: interesting article about him here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
"The big issue when you compare him to Mike Brown is that Mike Brown runs the ball back very well"... whereas Goode gets smashed and turned over. Mike Brown can also do this thing called 'tackling'."
For me a fit MB, BF or even Delon (as long as he manages to lose that chip) rather than Izno. I accept that at club level the guy is great but I've not been convinced by him in England colours, that being said I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him get MoM on Sunday
irocfan said:
steveT350C said:
possibly, used to play fly half.
interesting article about him here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
it is an interesting article but I tend to agree with this comment: interesting article about him here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/intern...
"The big issue when you compare him to Mike Brown is that Mike Brown runs the ball back very well"... whereas Goode gets smashed and turned over. Mike Brown can also do this thing called 'tackling'."
For me a fit MB, BF or even Delon (as long as he manages to lose that chip) rather than Izno. I accept that at club level the guy is great but I've not been convinced by him in England colours, that being said I'd be delighted to be proved wrong and him get MoM on Sunday
getting nervous!
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