GOLF - 2023

[milesgiles]

DuncanM said:

Bodhi, your backswing is seriously good now, and a clear improvement from your overswing vid (post lessons).

You still steepen the shaft as your first move down, not sure how bothered you are with that, if you're seeing good results, certainly works for Hovland.







It's a bloody good swing, and the half swing drill looked great, 1/4 looked more challenging!

Concur the bs is very good

Hovland isn’t steep though. He shallows aggressively while bringing the club ott compared to the bs. Very unusual but obviously works

Bodhi you are a great candidate for the Rose drill. The right hip fires immediately from the top and the shoulders follow which steepens the shaft. Imo you have to try and feel your back staying to the target while your arms drop

You also look like you are cupping your lead wrist which will also get you steep

Edited by milesgiles on Thursday 16th November 00:08

[DuncanM]

milesgiles said:

Concur the bs is very good

Hovland isn’t steep though. He shallows aggressively while bringing the club ott compared to the bs. Very unusual but obviously works

Bodhi you are a great candidate for the Rose drill. The right hip fires immediately from the top and the shoulders follow which steepens the shaft. Imo you have to try and feel your back staying to the target while your arms drop

You also look like you are cupping your lead wrist which will also get you steep

Edited by milesgiles on Thursday 16th November 00:08

https://youtu.be/JXGSFxOf-Iw?si=l0sVSMk6qwK13qh9

Rose drill, similar to Sergio does.

Just watched Hovland, you're right, lazy of me not to notice that!

[fourstardan]

Use the ground, get the club in the right place!

I hear this morning that Mcilroy wants to move to be near Queenwood, is he off his rocker! Although I doubt he wants his daughter growing up in the US school system.

[Blue62]

milesgiles said:

Concur the bs is very good

Hovland isn’t steep though. He shallows aggressively while bringing the club ott compared to the bs. Very unusual but obviously works

Bodhi you are a great candidate for the Rose drill. The right hip fires immediately from the top and the shoulders follow which steepens the shaft. Imo you have to try and feel your back staying to the target while your arms drop

You also look like you are cupping your lead wrist which will also get you steep

Edited by milesgiles on Thursday 16th November 00:08

I have this issue as well, it’s not the worst swing fault but under tuition I’ve worked on holding my back to target but find it quite difficult to get the timing right, if I try too hard I end up not completing my backswing. When it works it’s great, but it’s all about getting in the right position at the top for me and not letting my trail elbow get out of position. I’ll look at the Rose video, hadn’t realised it was one of his tips (I try to steer clear of online stuff).

[DuncanM]

https://youtu.be/LXodpcZXkWc?si=fOc1-azqbIdeRehl

If you can stomach Bryson (I like him, but he is a bit much ), then this is fascinating, 17° 5iron, 40°PW, the numbers stop meaning anything to anyone other than Bryson, his dedication to golf, and his approach, are certainly unique.

https://youtu.be/mlTYyUOqAwI?si=j_Mu2TU34wT-5JQk

He's quite douchey in this match, zero humility, but still super impressive to watch golf.

[Rosscow]

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[Wills2]

I really like Bryson don't think he is douchy at all, on the bag go through it was interesting to see the lofts of some of the clubs, single length irons and a 5 iron with the loft of a 2 iron, you certainly wouldn't enquire what he hit on the tee as a guide.

[DuncanM]

Wills2 said:

I really like Bryson don't think he is douchy at all, on the bag go through it was interesting to see the lofts of some of the clubs, single length irons and a 5 iron with the loft of a 2 iron, you certainly wouldn't enquire what he hit on the tee as a guide.

I like him, but I know he's marmite, hence the warning

He gives away some great info, and his rulers and stuff were really interesting. I love the fact he still keeps some things secret though, he's a golfing loon, in the best of ways.

In the match again Grant, he could have shot - 10 or even lower, if he'd putted just a little better.

[Wills2]

DuncanM said:

Wills2 said:

I really like Bryson don't think he is douchy at all, on the bag go through it was interesting to see the lofts of some of the clubs, single length irons and a 5 iron with the loft of a 2 iron, you certainly wouldn't enquire what he hit on the tee as a guide.

I like him, but I know he's marmite, hence the warning

He gives away some great info, and his rulers and stuff were really interesting. I love the fact he still keeps some things secret though, he's a golfing loon, in the best of ways.

In the match again Grant, he could have shot - 10 or even lower, if he'd putted just a little better.

Yeah I watched that a few weeks ago and he does like to share quite a few of his insights into the game, Grant is a lovely golfer effortless swing just watched him play Pebble Beach yesterday, I think he was one over at the end having been in around 10 bunkers.

[bodhi]

DuncanM said:

milesgiles said:

Concur the bs is very good

Hovland isn’t steep though. He shallows aggressively while bringing the club ott compared to the bs. Very unusual but obviously works

Bodhi you are a great candidate for the Rose drill. The right hip fires immediately from the top and the shoulders follow which steepens the shaft. Imo you have to try and feel your back staying to the target while your arms drop

You also look like you are cupping your lead wrist which will also get you steep

Edited by milesgiles on Thursday 16th November 00:08

https://youtu.be/JXGSFxOf-Iw?si=l0sVSMk6qwK13qh9

Rose drill, similar to Sergio does.

Just watched Hovland, you're right, lazy of me not to notice that!

Thanks both - food for thought there I think. Looking at the Rose drill it is something I rehearse when practising the backswing, both at the range and in the back garden, albeit not quite to the same extreme. Also looks like it could be a good link between the backswing and the impact work I'm doing at the moment.

Just need to figure out why I find it so much easier with a Driver than I do an 8 iron

[48Valves]

My lad has been going to group practice sessions for a few week and playing every weekend for a month. Which has resulted in a massive improvement in his swing and scoring. He’s gone from struggling to get near under 70 (9 holes) to shooting 56 at the weekend.

He’s finding some nice positions and starting to generate decent speed.

https://youtube.com/shorts/mohq8YkrBC8?si=3uzcBkpi...

Edited by 48Valves on Friday 17th November 14:30

[DuncanM]

48Valves said:

My lad has been going to group practice sessions for a few week and playing every weekend for a month. Which has resulted in a massive improvement in his swing and scoring. He’s gone from struggling to get near under 70 (9 holes) to shooting 56 at the weekend.

He’s finding some nice positions and starting to generate decent speed.

https://youtube.com/shorts/mohq8YkrBC8?si=3uzcBkpi...

Edited by 48Valves on Friday 17th November 14:30

Sounds good!

Video comes up as private when trying to view.

[48Valves]

DuncanM said:

48Valves said:

My lad has been going to group practice sessions for a few week and playing every weekend for a month. Which has resulted in a massive improvement in his swing and scoring. He’s gone from struggling to get near under 70 (9 holes) to shooting 56 at the weekend.

He’s finding some nice positions and starting to generate decent speed.

https://youtube.com/shorts/mohq8YkrBC8?si=3uzcBkpi...

Edited by 48Valves on Friday 17th November 14:30

Sounds good!

Fixed.
Video comes up as private when trying to view.

[DuncanM]

48Valves said:

Fixed

Wow, your lad has a nice swing!

Edited by DuncanM on Saturday 18th November 07:37

[Hammersia]

48Valves said:

My lad has been going to group practice sessions for a few week and playing every weekend for a month. Which has resulted in a massive improvement in his swing and scoring. He’s gone from struggling to get near under 70 (9 holes) to shooting 56 at the weekend.

He’s finding some nice positions and starting to generate decent speed.

https://youtube.com/shorts/mohq8YkrBC8?si=3uzcBkpi...

Edited by 48Valves on Friday 17th November 14:30

Just needs to pull the right shoulder back at address, will straighten things out.

[bodhi]

48Valves said:

My lad has been going to group practice sessions for a few week and playing every weekend for a month. Which has resulted in a massive improvement in his swing and scoring. He’s gone from struggling to get near under 70 (9 holes) to shooting 56 at the weekend.

He’s finding some nice positions and starting to generate decent speed.

https://youtube.com/shorts/mohq8YkrBC8?si=3uzcBkpi...

Edited by 48Valves on Friday 17th November 14:30

Swinging like that those scores will come tumbling down - very impressive. Nicely on plane and good turn through the ball.

Only thing I'd watch is length of the backswing - looks a touch long which can prove difficult to get rid of if he gets too used to it. Ask me how I know

[48Valves]

Thanks all.

Hes been told him to push his left shoulder forward to square up. Same difference I suppose. He sets up square then like many of us, opens up when looking at his target.

I don’t know where the over swing can from. He only started doing it last night. I suspect because there was a slightly older boy in the next bay hitting it further, so my lad is trying too hard.

[Hammersia]

48Valves said:

Thanks all.

Hes been told him to push his left shoulder forward to square up. Same difference I suppose. He sets up square then like many of us, opens up when looking at his target.

I don’t know where the over swing can from. He only started doing it last night. I suspect because there was a slightly older boy in the next bay hitting it further, so my lad is trying too hard.

Not quite the same thing, pulling the left shoulder forwards will likely be quite hunched over the ball. Pushing the right shoulder back, "retracting" so the chest comes out will work much better. Might also solve the overswing. Excellent Crossfield explanation here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6z3TxWhOo

[48Valves]

Hammersia said:

48Valves said:

Thanks all.

Hes been told him to push his left shoulder forward to square up. Same difference I suppose. He sets up square then like many of us, opens up when looking at his target.

I don’t know where the over swing can from. He only started doing it last night. I suspect because there was a slightly older boy in the next bay hitting it further, so my lad is trying too hard.

Not quite the same thing, pulling the left shoulder forwards will likely be quite hunched over the ball. Pushing the right shoulder back, "retracting" so the chest comes out will work much better. Might also solve the overswing. Excellent Crossfield explanation here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6z3TxWhOo

He’s a habit of standing up too straight. I presume left shoulder forward is to help that. I don’t get involved, he won’t listen to me.

[bodhi]

Just been out for 9, and thought I'd try rehearsing something close to the Rose Drill as part of my pre shot routine off the tee. As a result, I only missed one fairway all day.

Think we're onto something here chaps