GOLF - 2023

[DuncanM]

danneth said:

Cheers and appreciate that.

Very good rangefinders for the money, sure you'll enjoy it ??

My old shotsaver was cheap @£90ish years ago, but died this year from getting cold (leaving in garage possibly?). I've missed having one, £30 is low risk, and it looked good.

I'll be watching you for a bit, as the channel is right up my street

[cnprior]

Hello,
Ive just bought an iwatch SE, and am wanting a list of apps that people are using for free please.

I'm potentially going to buy arcos sensors, does anyone run this setup?

Interested in opinions please and apps versus arcos.

Thanks.

[48Valves]

cnprior said:

Hello,
Ive just bought an iwatch SE, and am wanting a list of apps that people are using for free please.

I'm potentially going to buy arcos sensors, does anyone run this setup?

Interested in opinions please and apps versus arcos.

Thanks.

I use golf shot, but I pay for the pro version.

I used Arccos for a year which was useful to tell me where I needed to work on my game. But eventually found I was thinking more about tracking shots than just enjoying playing. The watch app is great though.

[Leithen]

I use Arccos having received the sensors with my Ping irons. I use the Bluetooth separate device that you clip to your pocket, because I found using the watch less reliable.

I start it and then ignore it, use the phone app for distances (stuck to the trolley), keep a card out of habit and then after the round edit what Arccos thinks happened into what really happened.

I find it especially useful at this time of year with cold wet conditions, understanding what distances are really realistic - much shorter for me…

It is interesting as data builds up on the same courses.

[fat80b]

I use Arccos directly to my phone which I keep in my pocket. I set and forget on the first tee and only come back to it after I’ve got home.

I then use golfshot for scoring as I go on the same phone and use this for working out distances to hazards, front middle and back etc.

Occasionally I glance at the suggested club that Arccos shows me as I’m opening golfshot.

I then review the Arccos round afterwards and fix any missed shots / putts etc. for me, there are usually 3 or 4 missed putts that need correcting. This then keeps my stats as accurate as possible.

[fourstardan]

After being struck with tonsilitus all week and the ABs kicked in I had 18 yesterday.

even though it could had been shirt weather thr Mud, sand (greens still recovering), wet is a reminder I hate winter golf.

Another two months minimum of this to knuckle down to.

[RayDonovan]

48Valves said:

cnprior said:

Hello,
Ive just bought an iwatch SE, and am wanting a list of apps that people are using for free please.

I'm potentially going to buy arcos sensors, does anyone run this setup?

Interested in opinions please and apps versus arcos.

Thanks.

I use golf shot, but I pay for the pro version.

I used Arccos for a year which was useful to tell me where I needed to work on my game. But eventually found I was thinking more about tracking shots than just enjoying playing. The watch app is great though.

I was the same with ShotScope X5 and their stty interface. Ended up spending more time trying to get the touchscreen to work as opposed to concentrating on a shot.

[Pieman68]

Interesting session at the range on Saturday. Worked up to the driver and was hitting that well but still struggling with the irons.

One of my playing buddies had a look (we're meeting at the range to work on stuff rather than fighting through the mud for the time being) and he's pretty sure I am going over the top, so my swing is going out to in - hence me not striking cleanly and hitting the toe a lot of the time.

Set up an alignment stick over the ball and started working on hitting in to out. Lot of work to do and the swings were very steady but I could definitely feel that connection was better, and I even saw a baby draw on one hit with my 8 iron.

Any suggestions for any drills to help me work on my swing to develop on this as I hope it might make a big difference.

[Hammersia]

Pieman68 said:

Interesting session at the range on Saturday. Worked up to the driver and was hitting that well but still struggling with the irons.

One of my playing buddies had a look (we're meeting at the range to work on stuff rather than fighting through the mud for the time being) and he's pretty sure I am going over the top, so my swing is going out to in - hence me not striking cleanly and hitting the toe a lot of the time.

Set up an alignment stick over the ball and started working on hitting in to out. Lot of work to do and the swings were very steady but I could definitely feel that connection was better, and I even saw a baby draw on one hit with my 8 iron.

Any suggestions for any drills to help me work on my swing to develop on this as I hope it might make a big difference.

I've always been of the opinion strike first. If you're not hitting iron shots cleanly then your low point is off. You can move your low point around by playing with ball position and weight distribution in the setup.

If you can achieve a consistent 135 yard 5 yard fade or 143 yard 3 yard draw with a 9 iron (for example) then you've got your irons cracked.

4 degrees out to in or 3 degrees in to out matters not.

[DuncanM]

Hammersia said:

I've always been of the opinion strike first. If you're not hitting iron shots cleanly then your low point is off. You can move your low point around by playing with ball position and weight distribution in the setup.

If you can achieve a consistent 135 yard 5 yard fade or 143 yard 3 yard draw with a 9 iron (for example) then you've got your irons cracked.

4 degrees out to in or 3 degrees in to out matters not.

Brilliant post, couldn't agree more.

[JoeMk1]

Hammersia said:

I've always been of the opinion strike first. If you're not hitting iron shots cleanly then your low point is off. You can move your low point around by playing with ball position and weight distribution in the setup.

If you can achieve a consistent 135 yard 5 yard fade or 143 yard 3 yard draw with a 9 iron (for example) then you've got your irons cracked.

4 degrees out to in or 3 degrees in to out matters not.

Agree on the importance of strike., and would add on top the importance of feedback.

I use a towel behind the ball for feedback on low point. Of course you can play around with how far behind the ball it is to make it more or less difficult. I'm not very good at golf, so for the time being 1 balls width gap to the towel is enough to stop me getting too depressed each time I hit the towel.



This will obviously not tell you if you're hitting it thin, but that should be pretty obvious from the feeling.

The rubber tee and alignment stick provide a reference for the ball position, as well as a gate to swing through giving immediate feedback on whether you hit towards the toe or heel.

For reference, the angled tape line is 6 deg out, I just find it useful to have it in the peripheral vision as a kind of subconscious reminder to swing in that direction. It's really hard for me to actually swing 6deg out, but I find I respond well to making exaggerations when I'm practicing.

If you find yourself hitting the towel a lot, I'd slow things right down to simple pitch shots until you can land the club at the ball consistently before speeding things up.

I'd also highly recommend looking at Marcus Edblad on Youtube if you want to work on an in to out path/drawing the ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGkBfEuqgLo

[Pieman68]

Cheers all. I also struggle with my weight distribution - it feels a very conscious effort to get weight onto my front foot.

He also noticed that my shoulders are very open at address and the when I felt that I am aiming straight, it's actually way off to the left. I do have a glass back so did end up also working on turning the left shoulder at address to close the body off - when doing the above there was a noticeable shift of weight to the front foot. The weight felt more natural but the angle of my lower back will take some getting used to as it felt very uncomfortable to start with.

Lessons on the agenda in the new year! I'm taking baby steps but want to be consistently in the 90s next year and get the handicap down to around 25.

[theguvernor15]

If you're struggling with your game, all i can recommend is good, consistent coaching.

I know so many golfers, that seem to have the opinion they can fix themselves, one of our playing group has gone from a good 10 HC to a 14 HC in little over 12 months & if i'm honest, that's probably still too low!
I've learned a lot this year & managed to get down from a 16 HC to 11, my goal was 9 or below & i think with a few more competitions i would of managed it this season.
I had huge problems with a steep, over the top swing, which was resulting in my weight being too far forward & hitting down on driver so much, i was hitting 5 foot high worm burners for months. (It got to a point where i topped every drive on a round).

It was something so simple, i was getting my head ahead of the ball, with an over the top swing & steep decent angle it was all horrendous.
1 x 30 minute lesson, with a very simple drill & i was fixed.

However anyone you play with will always say it's because you've lifted your head too early.

[bodhi]

Played in our annual Xmas Scramble yesterday - sadly due to how booked the course was and our tardiness in signing up meant we could only join the 9 hole competition, but still well worth getting out.

Struck the ball really well all day other than a chunky 3 wood off the deck, hit every fairway but one and was following the drives up with some really nice iron shots. Ended up with 17 points after lipping out 3 times (proper ball goes in them comes back out jobs) including one for a chip in birdie.

[DuncanM]

bodhi said:

Played in our annual Xmas Scramble yesterday - sadly due to how booked the course was and our tardiness in signing up meant we could only join the 9 hole competition, but still well worth getting out.

Struck the ball really well all day other than a chunky 3 wood off the deck, hit every fairway but one and was following the drives up with some really nice iron shots. Ended up with 17 points after lipping out 3 times (proper ball goes in them comes back out jobs) including one for a chip in birdie.

Nice, sounds like things are going well.

Played a par 3 9 hole yesterday, great fun, despite the 3 club wind, and muddy conditions .

[Scaleybrat]

danneth said:

Cheers and appreciate that.

Very good rangefinders for the money, sure you'll enjoy it ??

I was also drawn to the YT vids after reading this thread. Yes, I hit the subscribe button.

Still not decided if to go for the Inkersi or Cigman (currently £71.99 on Amazon) rangefinder and I think you guys were swithering which one was the best budget option. Keep up the good work, really enjoy the product tests/reviews and the light hearted presentation style.

[DuncanM]

Scaleybrat said:

I was also drawn to the YT vids after reading this thread. Yes, I hit the subscribe button.

Still not decided if to go for the Inkersi or Cigman (currently £71.99 on Amazon) rangefinder and I think you guys were swithering which one was the best budget option. Keep up the good work, really enjoy the product tests/reviews and the light hearted presentation style.

It's a brilliant channel isn't it? Doesn't have that algorithm chasing feel of some of the bigger channels, excellent content, well presented.

I'll let you know how I get on with the Inkersi.

[fourstardan]

JoeMk1 said:

Agree on the importance of strike., and would add on top the importance of feedback.

I use a towel behind the ball for feedback on low point. Of course you can play around with how far behind the ball it is to make it more or less difficult. I'm not very good at golf, so for the time being 1 balls width gap to the towel is enough to stop me getting too depressed each time I hit the towel.



This will obviously not tell you if you're hitting it thin, but that should be pretty obvious from the feeling.

The rubber tee and alignment stick provide a reference for the ball position, as well as a gate to swing through giving immediate feedback on whether you hit towards the toe or heel.

For reference, the angled tape line is 6 deg out, I just find it useful to have it in the peripheral vision as a kind of subconscious reminder to swing in that direction. It's really hard for me to actually swing 6deg out, but I find I respond well to making exaggerations when I'm practicing.

If you find yourself hitting the towel a lot, I'd slow things right down to simple pitch shots until you can land the club at the ball consistently before speeding things up.

I'd also highly recommend looking at Marcus Edblad on Youtube if you want to work on an in to out path/drawing the ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGkBfEuqgLo

I got a mat with sequins on you can get, it's actually pretty good for seeing impact. I'd recommend one on a board though as its a mat and moves about.

[Scaleybrat]

DuncanM said:

I'll let you know how I get on with the Inkersi.

Always great to get another opinion - thanks

[bodhi]

If you're looking for a reasonable value laser rangefinder I have one of the Shot Scope models (the L1 I believe) and I'd struggle to recommend it based on the last year I've had it. Problem is it auto-locks onto pins, which is useful, but it struggles to tell the difference between a pin and a tree 50 yards behind the green, so I really don't trust it unfortunately.

Could be user error, but I far preferred my old Nikon Coolshot which just sort of worked. Quite amusingly I play a lot with the chap I sold it to, and he ends up getting yardages for us.....