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Pieman68 said:
Interesting session at the range on Saturday. Worked up to the driver and was hitting that well but still struggling with the irons.
One of my playing buddies had a look (we're meeting at the range to work on stuff rather than fighting through the mud for the time being) and he's pretty sure I am going over the top, so my swing is going out to in - hence me not striking cleanly and hitting the toe a lot of the time.
Set up an alignment stick over the ball and started working on hitting in to out. Lot of work to do and the swings were very steady but I could definitely feel that connection was better, and I even saw a baby draw on one hit with my 8 iron.
Any suggestions for any drills to help me work on my swing to develop on this as I hope it might make a big difference.
Be careful it’s not a case of the blind leading the blind.. I’m a reasonable golfer but I’d always use my phone to video a swing if someone felt they were ott, its not that easy to tell path just by looking at someoneOne of my playing buddies had a look (we're meeting at the range to work on stuff rather than fighting through the mud for the time being) and he's pretty sure I am going over the top, so my swing is going out to in - hence me not striking cleanly and hitting the toe a lot of the time.
Set up an alignment stick over the ball and started working on hitting in to out. Lot of work to do and the swings were very steady but I could definitely feel that connection was better, and I even saw a baby draw on one hit with my 8 iron.
Any suggestions for any drills to help me work on my swing to develop on this as I hope it might make a big difference.
Eg everyone assumes Dustin is several degrees in because of his tremendous shallowing move, but he is actually a degree or two out to in. Sergio is similar nd much steeper at i pact than you’d assume.
theguvernor15 said:
If you're struggling with your game, all i can recommend is good, consistent coaching.
I know so many golfers, that seem to have the opinion they can fix themselves, one of our playing group has gone from a good 10 HC to a 14 HC in little over 12 months & if i'm honest, that's probably still too low!
I've learned a lot this year & managed to get down from a 16 HC to 11, my goal was 9 or below & i think with a few more competitions i would of managed it this season.
I had huge problems with a steep, over the top swing, which was resulting in my weight being too far forward & hitting down on driver so much, i was hitting 5 foot high worm burners for months. (It got to a point where i topped every drive on a round).
It was something so simple, i was getting my head ahead of the ball, with an over the top swing & steep decent angle it was all horrendous.
1 x 30 minute lesson, with a very simple drill & i was fixed.
However anyone you play with will always say it's because you've lifted your head too early.
Actual progress.. good stuff. Cant tell you how many golfers I know who are going to do this that or the other to improve and never, ever do.I know so many golfers, that seem to have the opinion they can fix themselves, one of our playing group has gone from a good 10 HC to a 14 HC in little over 12 months & if i'm honest, that's probably still too low!
I've learned a lot this year & managed to get down from a 16 HC to 11, my goal was 9 or below & i think with a few more competitions i would of managed it this season.
I had huge problems with a steep, over the top swing, which was resulting in my weight being too far forward & hitting down on driver so much, i was hitting 5 foot high worm burners for months. (It got to a point where i topped every drive on a round).
It was something so simple, i was getting my head ahead of the ball, with an over the top swing & steep decent angle it was all horrendous.
1 x 30 minute lesson, with a very simple drill & i was fixed.
However anyone you play with will always say it's because you've lifted your head too early.
Cant say it often enough.. actual measurable improvement that sticks takes hundreds and hundreds of hours of practise. Which is why so few do it
bodhi said:
If you're looking for a reasonable value laser rangefinder I have one of the Shot Scope models (the L1 I believe) and I'd struggle to recommend it based on the last year I've had it. Problem is it auto-locks onto pins, which is useful, but it struggles to tell the difference between a pin and a tree 50 yards behind the green, so I really don't trust it unfortunately.
Could be user error, but I far preferred my old Nikon Coolshot which just sort of worked. Quite amusingly I play a lot with the chap I sold it to, and he ends up getting yardages for us.....
A golf watch and laser together is really the only way to go. If I’m on a foreign course it is asking for trouble to just zap it. The watch will tell you if you have zapped a tree Could be user error, but I far preferred my old Nikon Coolshot which just sort of worked. Quite amusingly I play a lot with the chap I sold it to, and he ends up getting yardages for us.....
milesgiles said:
Pieman68 said:
Interesting session at the range on Saturday. Worked up to the driver and was hitting that well but still struggling with the irons.
One of my playing buddies had a look (we're meeting at the range to work on stuff rather than fighting through the mud for the time being) and he's pretty sure I am going over the top, so my swing is going out to in - hence me not striking cleanly and hitting the toe a lot of the time.
Set up an alignment stick over the ball and started working on hitting in to out. Lot of work to do and the swings were very steady but I could definitely feel that connection was better, and I even saw a baby draw on one hit with my 8 iron.
Any suggestions for any drills to help me work on my swing to develop on this as I hope it might make a big difference.
Be careful it’s not a case of the blind leading the blind.. I’m a reasonable golfer but I’d always use my phone to video a swing if someone felt they were ott, its not that easy to tell path just by looking at someoneOne of my playing buddies had a look (we're meeting at the range to work on stuff rather than fighting through the mud for the time being) and he's pretty sure I am going over the top, so my swing is going out to in - hence me not striking cleanly and hitting the toe a lot of the time.
Set up an alignment stick over the ball and started working on hitting in to out. Lot of work to do and the swings were very steady but I could definitely feel that connection was better, and I even saw a baby draw on one hit with my 8 iron.
Any suggestions for any drills to help me work on my swing to develop on this as I hope it might make a big difference.
Eg everyone assumes Dustin is several degrees in because of his tremendous shallowing move, but he is actually a degree or two out to in. Sergio is similar nd much steeper at i pact than you’d assume.
I'll be referring myself to a pro in the new year to try and get on top of stuff, but in the meantime the drills he gave me definitely made contact feel cleaner (much less shock travelling up the shaft) and the ball was definitely flying straighter, so we'll see where it leads
milesgiles said:
A golf watch and laser together is really the only way to go. If I’m on a foreign course it is asking for trouble to just zap it. The watch will tell you if you have zapped a tree
Agreed - usually I have the GPS on my trolley, which with the companion app does flyovers, distances to hazards etc and only use the laser very occasionally, typically on sub 100 yard approaches. Sadly I'm without trolley at the moment due to how wet the course is, so I'm relying on a very flaky range finder or my playing partner for exact yardages - if neither are available I'll do it the old fashioned way and figure out where I am in relation to the 150 yard marker....
I've managed to book in for some winter golf! Sadly not anywhere warm and sunny, but we've got:
On the 27th have booked a couple of hours here - https://midlandsindoorgolf.com/ - I've seen a few of these types of places spring up in the area so thought we'd have a go - looks the closest we'll ever get to playing Augusta short of a trip to Cavendish.
Then the day after I'm joining a group of lads from Stone to play here - https://churchstrettongolfclub.com/ - £25 for a round of golf with full english breakfast to start, supposed to be one of the driest courses in the area, so after a couple of months in a quagmire I'm looking forward to it.
Anyone else got much golf planned over the break?
On the 27th have booked a couple of hours here - https://midlandsindoorgolf.com/ - I've seen a few of these types of places spring up in the area so thought we'd have a go - looks the closest we'll ever get to playing Augusta short of a trip to Cavendish.
Then the day after I'm joining a group of lads from Stone to play here - https://churchstrettongolfclub.com/ - £25 for a round of golf with full english breakfast to start, supposed to be one of the driest courses in the area, so after a couple of months in a quagmire I'm looking forward to it.
Anyone else got much golf planned over the break?
bodhi said:
I've managed to book in for some winter golf! Sadly not anywhere warm and sunny, but we've got:
On the 27th have booked a couple of hours here - https://midlandsindoorgolf.com/ - I've seen a few of these types of places spring up in the area so thought we'd have a go - looks the closest we'll ever get to playing Augusta short of a trip to Cavendish.
Then the day after I'm joining a group of lads from Stone to play here - https://churchstrettongolfclub.com/ - £25 for a round of golf with full english breakfast to start, supposed to be one of the driest courses in the area, so after a couple of months in a quagmire I'm looking forward to it.
Anyone else got much golf planned over the break?
Mike Beaumont coaches there he's pretty decent. On the 27th have booked a couple of hours here - https://midlandsindoorgolf.com/ - I've seen a few of these types of places spring up in the area so thought we'd have a go - looks the closest we'll ever get to playing Augusta short of a trip to Cavendish.
Then the day after I'm joining a group of lads from Stone to play here - https://churchstrettongolfclub.com/ - £25 for a round of golf with full english breakfast to start, supposed to be one of the driest courses in the area, so after a couple of months in a quagmire I'm looking forward to it.
Anyone else got much golf planned over the break?
bodhi said:
Agreed - usually I have the GPS on my trolley, which with the companion app does flyovers, distances to hazards etc and only use the laser very occasionally, typically on sub 100 yard approaches.
Sadly I'm without trolley at the moment due to how wet the course is, so I'm relying on a very flaky range finder or my playing partner for exact yardages - if neither are available I'll do it the old fashioned way and figure out where I am in relation to the 150 yard marker....
I have the Motocaddy M5 so also tend to rely on it for distances (along with a cheap amazon-sourced range finder - which works fine for me). When I'm not using the trolley (typically when abroad) I use the range finder and the Motocaddy app on my phone.Sadly I'm without trolley at the moment due to how wet the course is, so I'm relying on a very flaky range finder or my playing partner for exact yardages - if neither are available I'll do it the old fashioned way and figure out where I am in relation to the 150 yard marker....
I keep looking at the Garmin S62 / S70 but haven't yet put together a decent enough case to the impulse purchase section of my brain.
Yet.
https://youtu.be/kZUZI04lC6o?si=mAZt1B9xDlMiZXih
Surely Sergio is one of the most naturally talented golfers ever? Worth a watch for sure.
Regarding cheap rangefinders, I had a shotsaver (cheap) for almost 10 years, it was brilliant, until I left it in the garage last winter.
I'll report back regarding the Inkersi, at £30 delivered, it's well worth a punt.
Surely Sergio is one of the most naturally talented golfers ever? Worth a watch for sure.
Regarding cheap rangefinders, I had a shotsaver (cheap) for almost 10 years, it was brilliant, until I left it in the garage last winter.
I'll report back regarding the Inkersi, at £30 delivered, it's well worth a punt.
DuncanM said:
https://youtu.be/kZUZI04lC6o?si=mAZt1B9xDlMiZXih
Surely Sergio is one of the most naturally talented golfers ever? Worth a watch for sure.
Regarding cheap rangefinders, I had a shotsaver (cheap) for almost 10 years, it was brilliant, until I left it in the garage last winter.
I'll report back regarding the Inkersi, at £30 delivered, it's well worth a punt.
All his peers would agree, but a single major makes him no more than a footnote, or be it a very rich oneSurely Sergio is one of the most naturally talented golfers ever? Worth a watch for sure.
Regarding cheap rangefinders, I had a shotsaver (cheap) for almost 10 years, it was brilliant, until I left it in the garage last winter.
I'll report back regarding the Inkersi, at £30 delivered, it's well worth a punt.
Credit to his father that taught him that simple repeating swing. If looking at very long euro careers I think him Stenson and Cejka were the best tee to green consistently.
I used to go to a lot of tournaments, don’t recall ever seeing him practice. Rory neither (beyond warming up). I think half the tour would have won 6-8 majors with Garcias talent
milesgiles said:
All his peers would agree, but a single major makes him no more than a footnote, or be it a very rich one
Credit to his father that taught him that simple repeating swing. If looking at very long euro careers I think him Stenson and Cejka were the best tee to green consistently.
I used to go to a lot of tournaments, don’t recall ever seeing him practice. Rory neither (beyond warming up). I think half the tour would have won 6-8 majors with Garcias talent
I remember Harrington not liking him much, annoyed that he didn't even practice.Credit to his father that taught him that simple repeating swing. If looking at very long euro careers I think him Stenson and Cejka were the best tee to green consistently.
I used to go to a lot of tournaments, don’t recall ever seeing him practice. Rory neither (beyond warming up). I think half the tour would have won 6-8 majors with Garcias talent
Super talented, never a great putter though, the classic ballstrikers curse perhaps.
Deesee said:
Sergio, best driver of a golf ball and ball striking master.
In his prime, best in the world.
Sergio it unbelievably talented, but hit results would suggest otherwise. His prime was during Tigers prime. Sergio wasn’t close to that level. In his prime, best in the world.
He gets lots of platitudes, but they are from when he was on. When he was on, he was a supreme ball striker, but it wasn’t consistent, and he had long streaks when he couldn’t keep it on the planet.
It’s interesting that Rahm hasn’t teamed up with him, despite apparently being one of his heroes.
48Valves said:
Sergio it unbelievably talented, but hit results would suggest otherwise. His prime was during Tigers prime. Sergio wasn’t close to that level.
He gets lots of platitudes, but they are from when he was on. When he was on, he was a supreme ball striker, but it wasn’t consistent, and he had long streaks when he couldn’t keep it on the planet.
It’s interesting that Rahm hasn’t teamed up with him, despite apparently being one of his heroes.
Without looking it up I seem to recall his only slump was caused by Hingis? He gets lots of platitudes, but they are from when he was on. When he was on, he was a supreme ball striker, but it wasn’t consistent, and he had long streaks when he couldn’t keep it on the planet.
It’s interesting that Rahm hasn’t teamed up with him, despite apparently being one of his heroes.
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