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Gargamel said:
Nice Bit on the Beeb site https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/45388727
Six of the best - Cook's greatest Test innings
104* v India, Nagpur, 2006: Flown in from West Indies to make his Test debut, Cook followed his first-innings 60 with a brilliant unbeaten century to secure a draw. It was obvious Cook and Test cricket were a perfect match.
235* v Australia, Brisbane, 2010: The first Test of the Ashes against a dominant Australia side. England trailed by 221 on first innings. No matter to Cook, who batted for the best part of two days, taking England to a scarcely believable 517-1 declared and setting the tone for a rare series win down under.
294 v India, Edgbaston, 2011: Cook's highest Test score, and one central to England's innings-and-242-run win. That it came after he had managed only 20 runs in his first four innings of the series said everything about Cook's character.
190 v India, Kolkata, 2012: After scoring 176 and 122 in the first two Tests, captain Cook hit 190 in the third. A 23rd Test hundred made him England's record centurion and helped England win in India for the first time since 1985.
95 v India, Southampton, 2014: England had been thumped 5-0 in Australia. They had just lost at home to Sri Lanka. Cook had not scored a century in 27 innings. Calls for him to stand down were growing louder by the day. He may not have made it to three figures, but he received a standing ovation for playing what he claimed was the most pressurised innings of his career. England won the series and he remained as skipper.
263 v Pakistan, Abu Dhabi, 2015: If ever an innings defined Cook's career, this is it. Showing all his fabled concentration and patience, Cook batted for almost 14 hours in the desert heat - the third longest Test innings in history. Only bad light prevented England from pulling off a remarkable victory.
I remember some of these innings in India. Fantastic player of spin, very very strong mentally and seemed utterly impregnable batting for long periods. Six of the best - Cook's greatest Test innings
104* v India, Nagpur, 2006: Flown in from West Indies to make his Test debut, Cook followed his first-innings 60 with a brilliant unbeaten century to secure a draw. It was obvious Cook and Test cricket were a perfect match.
235* v Australia, Brisbane, 2010: The first Test of the Ashes against a dominant Australia side. England trailed by 221 on first innings. No matter to Cook, who batted for the best part of two days, taking England to a scarcely believable 517-1 declared and setting the tone for a rare series win down under.
294 v India, Edgbaston, 2011: Cook's highest Test score, and one central to England's innings-and-242-run win. That it came after he had managed only 20 runs in his first four innings of the series said everything about Cook's character.
190 v India, Kolkata, 2012: After scoring 176 and 122 in the first two Tests, captain Cook hit 190 in the third. A 23rd Test hundred made him England's record centurion and helped England win in India for the first time since 1985.
95 v India, Southampton, 2014: England had been thumped 5-0 in Australia. They had just lost at home to Sri Lanka. Cook had not scored a century in 27 innings. Calls for him to stand down were growing louder by the day. He may not have made it to three figures, but he received a standing ovation for playing what he claimed was the most pressurised innings of his career. England won the series and he remained as skipper.
263 v Pakistan, Abu Dhabi, 2015: If ever an innings defined Cook's career, this is it. Showing all his fabled concentration and patience, Cook batted for almost 14 hours in the desert heat - the third longest Test innings in history. Only bad light prevented England from pulling off a remarkable victory.
Bradgate said:
Kohli has impressed me immensely this summer.
After he was Jimmy’s bunny in 2014, I concluded that he was just another big-name Indian flat-track bully, but he has proved me wrong. He hasn’t just scored heavily, he has stood up and fought for every run at times. He has also led his team very well in the field. India’s catching and their bowlers’ fitness levels have improved massively under his leadership.
The pace attack has been the key difference for this tour, IMO. Didn't follow much of the '14 tour but the lack of good and consistent quick bowlers has been a terminal ill for Indian touring sides from as long I can remember, I don't remember the '11 tour with much fondness. Of course we had the big batting four retire from cricket over the last decade so the top order has not been that strong. Glad to see some progress has been made there since, I suspect some young players will get picked for the next one at Oval. Should be fun.After he was Jimmy’s bunny in 2014, I concluded that he was just another big-name Indian flat-track bully, but he has proved me wrong. He hasn’t just scored heavily, he has stood up and fought for every run at times. He has also led his team very well in the field. India’s catching and their bowlers’ fitness levels have improved massively under his leadership.
Gargamel said:
BlackLabel said:
Well he has been a magnificent player, first Englishman to 10,000 runs. 32 Centuries and 158 Consecutive test appearances. Won 4/7 Ashes he played in, and led England to an away win in India. An absolutely stellar record for any player, plus he had to live with the FEC or EC tag all his career. Great contribution and will be sorely missed. Whatever he recent record. Glad he gets to go on his own terms.
Regular readers will know he baffled me as a captain, and I have not always been a fan of his 3 shot style. But I think for the team to move on, this is a big moment.
By my reckoning he's due a double ton in the next test too. Would be good to see him get it.
A man of remarkable achievements. I am an even bigger fan of the way he has always gone about it - quiet, measured and thoughtful, and always held himself with dignity unlike some of his more spotlighted team mates.
In a world where brash self promotion and talking the talk seems to dominate, Cook walked the walk. Nothing more, nothing less.
I like that.
In a world where brash self promotion and talking the talk seems to dominate, Cook walked the walk. Nothing more, nothing less.
I like that.
A friend and myself, both Essex supporters had a feeling that Cook might call it a day after this series. With another baby on the way, I didn't think he would undertake another tour and it means he can now concentrate on his career at Essex for next season. Just want to say a big thank you to him for all his achievements for England over the years.
And Garg will fondly remember, he and I have had differing opinions over Cook’s approach to Captaincy and cricket. I’ve very much of the Cook school that first you don’t lose and then you grind the bds into dust.
Despite being a Lancastrian to my toes and therefore more likely to err on the side of the Burnley Lara, I am quite happy to describe Cook as England’s greatest player. Batt or ball.
We can of course revisit the discussion when Jimmy retires
Despite being a Lancastrian to my toes and therefore more likely to err on the side of the Burnley Lara, I am quite happy to describe Cook as England’s greatest player. Batt or ball.
We can of course revisit the discussion when Jimmy retires
It's an end of an era, it'll be funny not having Cook open the batting, he's been a fixture in the squad for so long. I was there in the crowd when he got that 236 at the Gabba in 2010.
This test series has been brilliant, really gripping stuff, a fine way to end an international cricketing career.
This test series has been brilliant, really gripping stuff, a fine way to end an international cricketing career.
DeejRC said:
And Garg will fondly remember, he and I have had differing opinions over Cook’s approach to Captaincy and cricket. I’ve very much of the Cook school that first you don’t lose and then you grind the bds into dust.
Despite being a Lancastrian to my toes and therefore more likely to err on the side of the Burnley Lara, I am quite happy to describe Cook as England’s greatest player. Batt or ball.
We can of course revisit the discussion when Jimmy retires
In fairness, back the. We had better batsman at three, four and five. So watching him and Trott bat all day for 37 wasn’t much fun. Despite being a Lancastrian to my toes and therefore more likely to err on the side of the Burnley Lara, I am quite happy to describe Cook as England’s greatest player. Batt or ball.
We can of course revisit the discussion when Jimmy retires
It was two things, one inflexibility in approach especially when playing ODI, and the everything by the numbers approach to Captaincy.
I can’t knock his overall record, nor the games he won singlehanded with massive amounts of runs.
Anyway pretty sure Jimmy would have more centuries than Cook if he didn’t keep running out of partners.
i see cookie has been selected for the final test, they couldn't really leave him out ,so no sniff at who will open for us in the winter, It will be a great few days at the oval for him, hes well deserved it and will get a massive reception im sure,
The rest of the team will enjoy it no end ,and i think they will win , but to sit back and enjoy the game knowing we have beaten the best team in the world to clinch the series, is just fantastic, didnt think we would be in this position after a couple of days at Southampton, dont you just love five day cricket.
The rest of the team will enjoy it no end ,and i think they will win , but to sit back and enjoy the game knowing we have beaten the best team in the world to clinch the series, is just fantastic, didnt think we would be in this position after a couple of days at Southampton, dont you just love five day cricket.
SydneyBridge said:
Bairstow is fit to keep so I assume him at 5/6 before or after Stokes and Buttler then at 7
Chef Jennings
TBTBF
Rooooooooooot
Peaceful Ginger (W)
Violent Ginger
You rang my Lord
Bottled Lightning
Who and Why
Broady
Burnley Lara
10 more wickets needed for the Jimmy and Stuart show then its 1000 between them. Hopefully this test !
Gargamel said:
SydneyBridge said:
Bairstow is fit to keep so I assume him at 5/6 before or after Stokes and Buttler then at 7
Chef Jennings
TBTBF
Rooooooooooot
Peaceful Ginger (W)
Violent Ginger
You rang my Lord
Bottled Lightning
Who and Why
Broady
Burnley Lara
10 more wickets needed for the Jimmy and Stuart show then its 1000 between them. Hopefully this test !
Lol'd at Peaceful and Violent Gingers. Not to mention Who and Why?
Edited, OK just googled and seen Paul Hayward's piece in the Telegraph about Curran, do Bottled Lightning.
May I suggest Jennings be renamed to JCT Jennings after the schoolboy in Anthony Buckeridge 50s novels about a public preparatory schoolboy. Wiki Entry JCT Jennings "He is good-natured and well-meaning, but his tendency to act on impulse results in him getting into trouble frequently. "
Edited by FiF on Thursday 6th September 16:23
TheAngryDog said:
54 was the previous best.
Jennings is dog st and should not be persevered with.
I want to see him play oversees first before I will comment. Opening in England against fast late movement is not easy. I 'd like to see Jennings open for us over the winter. He has made a century, and sometimes coming through a tricky start can be the makings of a player. Too soon to give up in my opinionJennings is dog st and should not be persevered with.
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