The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

[kurokawa]

simo1863 said:

This is mine:

is that a mosin nagant?
MP15-22 seem to be the best if I am going AR platform, I heard Tippmann are great as it is almost full milspec, but just like the Kriss Defiance, with ambidextrous conversion will push those to higher price.

Will try to see if my local RFD have any AR and Vector in stock and go from there

[MKnight702]

kurokawa said:

simo1863 said:

This is mine:

is that a mosin nagant?
MP15-22 seem to be the best if I am going AR platform, I heard Tippmann are great as it is almost full milspec, but just like the Kriss Defiance, with ambidextrous conversion will push those to higher price.

Will try to see if my local RFD have any AR and Vector in stock and go from there

Looks like a Schmidt-Rubin to me, an interesting straight pull rifle designed in the1890's.

[simo1863]

MKnight702 said:

Looks like a Schmidt-Rubin to me, an interesting straight pull rifle designed in the1890's.

Close! It's a Swiss Arms K31.

[jimmyjimjim]

kurokawa said:

MP15-22 with ambidextrous conversion seem to cost as much as a Vector now

I'm a lefty. How does the 15-22 differ from a regular AR platform? Because aside from swapping the safety to an ambidextrous one, there's not much that needs doing.
I can run the bolt control with my left index finger or reach round from the right with my right hand. You can get amibdextrous bolt controls, for various prices but they're not really needed.
Magazine release doesn't need to be changed unless you're incredibly anal about it - I just hit it with my right hand.
The only other thing that needs changing is an amdextrous charging handle.

[z4RRSchris]

kurokawa said:

Hi I am new to this thread,

Give up on reading all 200s+ page, but seem like this is a thread mostly clay shooting?

Anyone doing practical shooting here? Like to get some advice

i’ve only really heard of people who do it basically to try and get a semi auto 7-9 shot. i don’t know anyone who does it properly as a hobby

[madcowman]

A 15-22 is probably the best gateway. It's also very well priced. If you look at the top shooters in the UK, they all use AR based (currently the Cotswold classic arms builds are seen as the top tier, but they are not cheap and there is a big old waiting list)

Practical shotgun /target shotgun is also a thing, but less common, and harder to get into as the high capacity (and slug) stuff is all section 1, and not possible to try without it on your ticket. That said, you can still enter and have fun with a 2+1 if that's your thing.

[simo1863]

z4RRSchris said:

i’ve only really heard of people who do it basically to try and get a semi auto 7-9 shot. i don’t know anyone who does it properly as a hobby

I'm sort of the other way round. Have done practical shooting in the past but don't have the time with the waiting or traveling for competitions so just set up some courses in my own field.

My justification for a S1 Shotgun is crop and sapling protection but it just says lawful quarry on my licence.

Will upgrade it at some point, I know its the poor man's practical shotgun, but have a Stoeger M3000 (the M3K one that I can just about get 11 cartridges in).

[jan8p]

MB140 said:

I’d love to join in. Unfortunately I’m deployed until around mid October. If people fancy a meet up after I get back my local shooting club (Orston Shooting ground south notts have said they would be more than happy to host a car group meet for a shoot. Would probably do the members rate for clays for a group of us.

They have a couple of big car parks, nice cafe etc.

Once I’m back Ifrom deployment I will post on here and see if any bodies interested.

I'm game for this...as long as it's in the middle of the country (ish). Nottingham is perfect.

[kurokawa]

jimmyjimjim said:

I'm a lefty. How does the 15-22 differ from a regular AR platform? Because aside from swapping the safety to an ambidextrous one, there's not much that needs doing.
I can run the bolt control with my left index finger or reach round from the right with my right hand. You can get amibdextrous bolt controls, for various prices but they're not really needed.
Magazine release doesn't need to be changed unless you're incredibly anal about it - I just hit it with my right hand.
The only other thing that needs changing is an amdextrous charging handle.

I had a try on a milspec M4, the mag release is workable but I do find it bit awkward.
Check a few RFD, the MP15-22 list price seem to have reach over 750 now, + ambid parts (safety and charging handle) will be around 1000. So I am wondering would the vector be good alternative (it seem working quite well for left hand without any mod)

[kurokawa]

madcowman said:

A 15-22 is probably the best gateway. It's also very well priced. If you look at the top shooters in the UK, they all use AR based (currently the Cotswold classic arms builds are seen as the top tier, but they are not cheap and there is a big old waiting list)

Practical shotgun /target shotgun is also a thing, but less common, and harder to get into as the high capacity (and slug) stuff is all section 1, and not possible to try without it on your ticket. That said, you can still enter and have fun with a 2+1 if that's your thing.

Yeah, got some member advice me to get in touch with Cotswold, they bought the 119? just around 1k but almost fully milspec

My other club do practical SG, I have not try it myself but look very interesting.

I am bit confuse about section 1, from what I read section 1 rifle could be use by club member under supervision even if they do not possess FAC, but LBP/LBR, section 1 SG could not even if the member hold a valid FAC with right slot in it?

Edited by kurokawa on Monday 25th July 13:04 (spelling)

Edited by kurokawa on Monday 25th July 13:05

[madcowman]

kurokawa said:

Yeah, got some member advice me to get in touch with Cotswold, they bought the 119? just around 1k but almost fully milspec

My other club do practical SG, I have not try it myself but look very interesting.

I am bit confuse about section 1, from what I read section 1 rifle could be use by club member under supervision even if they do not process FAC, but LBP/LBR, section 1 SG could not even if the member hold a valid FAC with right slot in it?

Thats right - Its one of the special features of our firearms laws

[jimmyjimjim]

kurokawa said:

I had a try on a milspec M4, the mag release is workable but I do find it bit awkward.
Check a few RFD, the MP15-22 list price seem to have reach over 750 now, + ambid parts (safety and charging handle) will be around 1000. So I am wondering would the vector be good alternative (it seem working quite well for left hand without any mod)

The ambi safety is about $15 and ambi charging handle is about $40-70.

[aeropilot]

z4RRSchris said:

kurokawa said:

Hi I am new to this thread,

Give up on reading all 200s+ page, but seem like this is a thread mostly clay shooting?

Anyone doing practical shooting here? Like to get some advice

I’ve only really heard of people who do it basically to try and get a semi auto 7-9 shot. i don’t know anyone who does it properly as a hobby

Two of my rifle club members do pukka Practical/Target shotgun comps, but with other clubs, although they are trying to drum up interest for a few others in our club to try it.
I've tried it once some years ago, with a 2+1 pump and quite enjoyed it, and I'm keeping it in the background as an option to replace full-bore rifle shooting if my neck/spine condition deteriorates much more and shooting a rifle prone becomes too painful.

[smithyithy]

Just collected my GP form back from the practice - 8 day turnaround! Is that a new record??

Currently looking a decent cabinet to order then putting the online application in..

Has anyone bought a used cabinet? There's a few relatively local to me on Facebook marketplace for around 1/3 the price of a budget new 3-gun one.. worth a punt?

[LivingTheDream]

smithyithy said:

Just collected my GP form back from the practice - 8 day turnaround! Is that a new record??

Currently looking a decent cabinet to order then putting the online application in..

Has anyone bought a used cabinet? There's a few relatively local to me on Facebook marketplace for around 1/3 the price of a budget new 3-gun one.. worth a punt?

Yes - I bought a 5 gun Brattonsound from someone on Facebook.

Just make sure you check inside before you take it home - I found a box of .22 LR in mine when I got home.

[smithyithy]

LivingTheDream said:

Yes - I bought a 5 gun Brattonsound from someone on Facebook.

Just make sure you check inside before you take it home - I found a box of .22 LR in mine when I got home.

Result

I've bit the bullet (easy pun) on one from Amazon in the end, there were a couple cheaper ones locally but not massively so. Should have my application in shortly

[kurokawa]

smithyithy said:

Just collected my GP form back from the practice - 8 day turnaround! Is that a new record??

Currently looking a decent cabinet to order then putting the online application in..

Has anyone bought a used cabinet? There's a few relatively local to me on Facebook marketplace for around 1/3 the price of a budget new 3-gun one.. worth a punt?

8 days is very quick
mine was 10 weeks

[dci]

dci said:

GP has returned my medical records in a record breaking 14 working days.

Though they did return them directly to me and not Medcert despite the requirement from Medcert and the police that they are not supplied to the third party via the applicant. They also managed to lose the supplied anti tamper strip so had to apply their own GP stamp as an anti tamper measure. It's lucky that they are only responsible for the health of around 4000 locals and not something serious..

Following on from this, I received the completed proforma in the post on the 22nd July. Only took Medcert 4 weeks to review a wafer thin medical record and complete the document.

FAC application submitted on 23rd July and then immediately returned by 9:00 on Monday asking me to submit a combined FAC application and SGC renewal instead. I have just under 4 years left on the SGC.

I'll be pleased if I have the FAC returned by this time next year.

[aeropilot]

dci said:

FAC application submitted on 23rd July and then immediately returned by 9:00 on Monday asking me to submit a combined FAC application and SGC renewal instead. I have just under 4 years left on the SGC.

Have heard a lot of forces (or combined forces FET's as is now common) are now doing this so FAC/SGC's are all coterminous by default, thereby reducing workload at renewal time.

[dci]

aeropilot said:

Have heard a lot of forces (or combined forces FET's as is now common) are now doing this so FAC/SGC's are all coterminous by default, thereby reducing workload at renewal time.

Yeah, completely understand and agree. Should save on Medcert costs as well.

It should have been made clear on the website that this was an option and preferred.