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I've always been recoil sensitive. hence why I only shoot anything higher than a 24 gram shell through a semi auto (the only exception being when I'm shooting live quarry on a rough shoot).
The worst cartridges I remember using where D&J (they were orange), possibly the worst shells ever made. Kicked like a mule, left a ton of crud in the barrels and if the wind was blowing from the muzzle to your face you'd end up with a face full of dirt.
The worst cartridges I remember using where D&J (they were orange), possibly the worst shells ever made. Kicked like a mule, left a ton of crud in the barrels and if the wind was blowing from the muzzle to your face you'd end up with a face full of dirt.
smithyithy said:
thismonkeyhere said:
What do you mean by 'punchy'?
Just in terms of the recoil felt, I mean any 12 gauge shotgun shell you're going to feel some some degree, but those two just kick more than the others..It's telling that specification-wise, the Comp-X and Superfast are very similar but definitely feel different - I guess the latter are higher velocity and therefore have more charge / powder / whatever the correct term is.. which translates into more felt recoil when all else is equal..?
Also - I may be just be too 'slow' to notice
Thin White Duke said:
The worst cartridges I remember using where D&J (they were orange), possibly the worst shells ever made. Kicked like a mule, left a ton of crud in the barrels and if the wind was blowing from the muzzle to your face you'd end up with a face full of dirt.
Meh, you should try a muzzle loader!thismonkeyhere said:
As a slight aside....
Utterly tragic news from Epson. Shocking and sad.
Waiting for the inevitable comments about legally held firearms from misguided MPs and the public though.......
See media are reporting "It is believed the couple were known to Surrey Police"Utterly tragic news from Epson. Shocking and sad.
Waiting for the inevitable comments about legally held firearms from misguided MPs and the public though.......
Which to me suggests maybe previous reported domestic situation.....or other reported incidences, if so, there will be questions about the recent renewal process in that case.
No mention of whether SGC or FAC though, not that it matters much, other than in yet another political situation, given Starmer is already trying to get more changes made as a result of the Plymouth incident.
MB140 said:
I shoot fiocchi Blacks, never had an issue. Mind you I do shoot 5.56 and 7.62 quite regularly for work.
On a side note for those discussing hearing protection earlier. I emailed CFG, they will have a stand there and will do custom ear moulds on a first come first served basis.
I think Plugzz are there too, so definitely a good opportunity to order some, I was umming and arring about going to the show but I'll probably miss it this time, spend the money on cartridges instead On a side note for those discussing hearing protection earlier. I emailed CFG, they will have a stand there and will do custom ear moulds on a first come first served basis.
I did see on CFGs social media pages recently though that they have a ~30 day lead time on orders due to current demand!
aeropilot said:
See media are reporting "It is believed the couple were known to Surrey Police"
Which to me suggests maybe previous reported domestic situation.....or other reported incidences, if so, there will be questions about the recent renewal process in that case.
No mention of whether SGC or FAC though, not that it matters much, other than in yet another political situation, given Starmer is already trying to get more changes made as a result of the Plymouth incident.
Not knownWhich to me suggests maybe previous reported domestic situation.....or other reported incidences, if so, there will be questions about the recent renewal process in that case.
No mention of whether SGC or FAC though, not that it matters much, other than in yet another political situation, given Starmer is already trying to get more changes made as a result of the Plymouth incident.
Eta: likely FAL if they found a rifle?
Edited by The Moose on Tuesday 7th February 14:48
smithyithy said:
MB140 said:
I shoot fiocchi Blacks, never had an issue. Mind you I do shoot 5.56 and 7.62 quite regularly for work.
On a side note for those discussing hearing protection earlier. I emailed CFG, they will have a stand there and will do custom ear moulds on a first come first served basis.
I think Plugzz are there too, so definitely a good opportunity to order some, I was umming and arring about going to the show but I'll probably miss it this time, spend the money on cartridges instead On a side note for those discussing hearing protection earlier. I emailed CFG, they will have a stand there and will do custom ear moulds on a first come first served basis.
I did see on CFGs social media pages recently though that they have a ~30 day lead time on orders due to current demand!
I’m going to take a good look around all of the custom moulded heating protection providers thee and then pick which I think will be best. Having said that CFG seem to be very popular at our local shooting ground.
The Moose said:
aeropilot said:
See media are reporting "It is believed the couple were known to Surrey Police"
Which to me suggests maybe previous reported domestic situation.....or other reported incidences, if so, there will be questions about the recent renewal process in that case.
No mention of whether SGC or FAC though, not that it matters much, other than in yet another political situation, given Starmer is already trying to get more changes made as a result of the Plymouth incident.
Not knownWhich to me suggests maybe previous reported domestic situation.....or other reported incidences, if so, there will be questions about the recent renewal process in that case.
No mention of whether SGC or FAC though, not that it matters much, other than in yet another political situation, given Starmer is already trying to get more changes made as a result of the Plymouth incident.
Eta: likely FAL if they found a rifle?
Edited by The Moose on Tuesday 7th February 14:48
aeropilot said:
The Moose said:
aeropilot said:
See media are reporting "It is believed the couple were known to Surrey Police"
Which to me suggests maybe previous reported domestic situation.....or other reported incidences, if so, there will be questions about the recent renewal process in that case.
No mention of whether SGC or FAC though, not that it matters much, other than in yet another political situation, given Starmer is already trying to get more changes made as a result of the Plymouth incident.
Not knownWhich to me suggests maybe previous reported domestic situation.....or other reported incidences, if so, there will be questions about the recent renewal process in that case.
No mention of whether SGC or FAC though, not that it matters much, other than in yet another political situation, given Starmer is already trying to get more changes made as a result of the Plymouth incident.
Eta: likely FAL if they found a rifle?
Edited by The Moose on Tuesday 7th February 14:48
Visited Oakedge in Staffordshire yesterday for a shoot, excellent ground and facilities, we did well for a Friday as there weren't many there at all, we tried every stand / target at least a couple of times although some are tough! I really need to practice more distant targets as many at this ground ( and I imagine at other similar grounds) have a lot more distance on them than at my local ground, which tend to be closer but faster.
I think I'd like to get a some tuition / coaching going forward... Does anyone have any suggestions for the Midlands?
I've looked on the CPSA and ICSI sites and they both list instructors by location and their contact details.. Is it just a case of firing off some emails to see what they offer and how much they charge?
I think I'd like to get a some tuition / coaching going forward... Does anyone have any suggestions for the Midlands?
I've looked on the CPSA and ICSI sites and they both list instructors by location and their contact details.. Is it just a case of firing off some emails to see what they offer and how much they charge?
Where about are you based and how far are you prepared to travel.
My local club/school Orston (Nottingham) has some very good coaches including a couple of ex world champions.
https://www.orston.com/shooting-lessons/
My wife has lessons with Cheryl Hall and has really improved my wife’s shooting both technically and mentally.
https://www.cherylhall.co.uk/
I’ve had lessons with Steve Brightwell (ex world champion).
My local club/school Orston (Nottingham) has some very good coaches including a couple of ex world champions.
https://www.orston.com/shooting-lessons/
My wife has lessons with Cheryl Hall and has really improved my wife’s shooting both technically and mentally.
https://www.cherylhall.co.uk/
I’ve had lessons with Steve Brightwell (ex world champion).
Cheers MB. I'm near Walsall, West Midlands, so about half an hour from a couple of decent size grounds - Oakedge and Lea Marston..
It looks like a few grounds offer lessons through their websites, then there's individual CPSA instructors who generally just have contact details and their teaching level or which disciplines they teach..
I don't mind travelling up to an hour or so if it's a fortnightly lesson for example, it's just knowing what to look for and typical pricing, I assume lessons with top tier shooters will mean premium prices which is completely understandable. I don't think my current skill level would warrant that just yet
But I like the idea of the CPSA coaching as it seems like the instructors generally teach the same methods / techniques, so there's consistency between coaches..
It looks like a few grounds offer lessons through their websites, then there's individual CPSA instructors who generally just have contact details and their teaching level or which disciplines they teach..
I don't mind travelling up to an hour or so if it's a fortnightly lesson for example, it's just knowing what to look for and typical pricing, I assume lessons with top tier shooters will mean premium prices which is completely understandable. I don't think my current skill level would warrant that just yet
But I like the idea of the CPSA coaching as it seems like the instructors generally teach the same methods / techniques, so there's consistency between coaches..
My Mrs pays £60 (I think) an hour for Cheryl Hall. Which if you look at her CV is very reasonable.
The thing my Mrs really likes about her is that it’s not just a physical technique teaching she does. A lot of what she teaches is mental and analytical.
It’s quite interesting I sat and had about 45mins conversation in the club house with Cheryl after my wife’s 2 hour lesson. Just a general chin wag over a brew. I’d have paid her just for that. She was explaining about how in her mind every single target is rated 1 to 4, depending upon distance, speed, target type, angle and a few other criteria. From this grading she effectively has her starting point for lead and where to kill the target. It was amazing to sit and listen to someone who shoots high 90s about how she mentally approaches every target.
The thing my Mrs really likes about her is that it’s not just a physical technique teaching she does. A lot of what she teaches is mental and analytical.
It’s quite interesting I sat and had about 45mins conversation in the club house with Cheryl after my wife’s 2 hour lesson. Just a general chin wag over a brew. I’d have paid her just for that. She was explaining about how in her mind every single target is rated 1 to 4, depending upon distance, speed, target type, angle and a few other criteria. From this grading she effectively has her starting point for lead and where to kill the target. It was amazing to sit and listen to someone who shoots high 90s about how she mentally approaches every target.
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