The **BOXING** thread (Vol 4)
Discussion
there is very little merit in these fantasy matchups as we'll never know.
Perhaps the whirling dervish would have been to much, perhaps mayweather would still have been too slick
We all know how quickly that unbeatable shine can disappear from a fighter with a bad night or an opponent with just the wrong style and how some dodgy judging can affect how fighters are regarded.It'd like asking would Lomachenko have beaten either of them?
Perhaps the whirling dervish would have been to much, perhaps mayweather would still have been too slick
We all know how quickly that unbeatable shine can disappear from a fighter with a bad night or an opponent with just the wrong style and how some dodgy judging can affect how fighters are regarded.It'd like asking would Lomachenko have beaten either of them?
Lee Jones Jnr said:
I wonder if that contributed to his needle phobia?
I wonder how his tattoos managed to get there without needles?
Tbf he never actually said that ... What he said was he was worried about having too much blood drawn as he felt it weakened him.... And the testing that team Mayweather were trying to get him to sign up to was UNLIMITED tests meaning they could test him as often as they liked....I wonder how his tattoos managed to get there without needles?
I can't believe I'm getting drawn into this debate again nearly 15 years later....I wish I hadn't brought it up now
andburg said:
there is very little merit in these fantasy matchups as we'll never know.
Perhaps the whirling dervish would have been to much, perhaps mayweather would still have been too slick
We all know how quickly that unbeatable shine can disappear from a fighter with a bad night or an opponent with just the wrong style and how some dodgy judging can affect how fighters are regarded.It'd like asking would Lomachenko have beaten either of them?
Loma versus PAC and Mayweather is pretty fascinating actually!Perhaps the whirling dervish would have been to much, perhaps mayweather would still have been too slick
We all know how quickly that unbeatable shine can disappear from a fighter with a bad night or an opponent with just the wrong style and how some dodgy judging can affect how fighters are regarded.It'd like asking would Lomachenko have beaten either of them?
tuscaneer said:
Tbf he never actually said that ... What he said was he was worried about having too much blood drawn as he felt it weakened him.... And the testing that team Mayweather were trying to get him to sign up to was UNLIMITED tests meaning they could test him as often as they liked....
I can't believe I'm getting drawn into this debate again nearly 15 years later....I wish I hadn't brought it up now
Wasn’t ether the complete opposite non needle phobia for Mayweather. Wasn’t he rehydrating via drip at some point? I can't believe I'm getting drawn into this debate again nearly 15 years later....I wish I hadn't brought it up now
Lee Jones Jnr said:
tuscaneer said:
They turned up at his house unanounced and he was there having the IV emptied into his arm.... How the f
k he talked his way out of that....
The man is a scumbag, that can't be a shock to anyone surely?k he talked his way out of that....The contest shouldn't have been allowed to go ahead.
.tuscaneer said:
272BHP said:
tuscaneer said:
he was at his best from the early 2000s to about 2010/2011 i think with a steady decline after..gradually slowing down...ain his prime his work rate was insane, his movement was incredible... has was like the tasmanian devil back then... i wish we'd have had the fight with mayweather a decade earlier than we did !!
I thought he was supernatural against De La Hoya in 2008.He was just a bundle of speed, energy and timing and had such easy power despite moving up the weights.
tuscaneer said:
andburg said:
there is very little merit in these fantasy matchups as we'll never know.
Perhaps the whirling dervish would have been to much, perhaps mayweather would still have been too slick
We all know how quickly that unbeatable shine can disappear from a fighter with a bad night or an opponent with just the wrong style and how some dodgy judging can affect how fighters are regarded.It'd like asking would Lomachenko have beaten either of them?
Loma versus PAC and Mayweather is pretty fascinating actually!Perhaps the whirling dervish would have been to much, perhaps mayweather would still have been too slick
We all know how quickly that unbeatable shine can disappear from a fighter with a bad night or an opponent with just the wrong style and how some dodgy judging can affect how fighters are regarded.It'd like asking would Lomachenko have beaten either of them?
I would have loved to see that fight.
Just to see Lewis knock Bowe out.
I just have to be satisfied with Lewis beating him when they were amateurs.
(Olympic final, gold medal. 1988. Seoul)
Haha, they still have beef to this day.
Edited by jazzybees on Wednesday 22 November 23:41
Lee Jones Jnr said:
lord trumpton said:
That fight retired De-La-Hoya. MP aged him that night without mercy.
Nah, making weight aged him.A motivated Bowe gives Lewis and any other heavy in history a hard night's work great jab decent engine imposing size and decent power too. (when in shape) and they go on about Furys inside fighting to me Bowe was a great inside fighter.On the other topic about De la hoya pacman once he got hit a few times he just went into a defensive mode and was tentative to commit because he was anxious of what was coming back at him(He was on the slide and weight drained too).Definitely a case of speed kills in that fight very sad way for De la hoya to go out.
Lee Jones Jnr said:
Fair. There are a combination of factors involved, age, weight, stage of career etc
The fight is well worth another look. Oscar bravely mustered up a convincing attack in the 8th and Pac politely applauded him and then took him to pieces for the rest of round.Lots of respect on show from both fighters.
Loma is like a hybrid of the two, hes got the defensive movement of FM Jr but fights more over the front foot throwing bunches of punches like MP
VL vs FM Jr would really be one for the purists, a chess match
VL vs MP would be a far more audience friendly
sticking to my fantasy match guns though, i have no view on who wins and couldnt argue either way
VL vs FM Jr would really be one for the purists, a chess match
VL vs MP would be a far more audience friendly
sticking to my fantasy match guns though, i have no view on who wins and couldnt argue either way
andburg said:
Loma is like a hybrid of the two, hes got the defensive movement of FM Jr but fights more over the front foot throwing bunches of punches like MP
VL vs FM Jr would really be one for the purists, a chess match
VL vs MP would be a far more audience friendly
sticking to my fantasy match guns though, i have no view on who wins and couldnt argue either way
yeah you could make a great case for either fighter in both of those match ups!!VL vs FM Jr would really be one for the purists, a chess match
VL vs MP would be a far more audience friendly
sticking to my fantasy match guns though, i have no view on who wins and couldnt argue either way
It’s the ten year anniversary of Froch v Groves 1 today.
George Groves and Dec whoeverheisthatdoesthepodcastwithhim did a watchalong of the fight today which I watched whilst I did my run.
I remember it being the way that most people seem to recall: Groves starts strong, fades midway as Froch comes on strong and then a bullst stoppage.
That’s not what happened at all.
Groves starts strong, bosses the entire contest with Froch best work in round five before being handily bested in six and seven and is still losing every exchange right up until one of the worst stoppages ever.
George Groves and Dec whoeverheisthatdoesthepodcastwithhim did a watchalong of the fight today which I watched whilst I did my run.
I remember it being the way that most people seem to recall: Groves starts strong, fades midway as Froch comes on strong and then a bulls
t stoppage.That’s not what happened at all.
Groves starts strong, bosses the entire contest with Froch best work in round five before being handily bested in six and seven and is still losing every exchange right up until one of the worst stoppages ever.
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