The **BOXING** thread Vol 2
Discussion
tuscaneer said:
272BHP said:
Who cares about the B list horror show? there was only one big fight last night and that was Campbell vs Linares.
Very good fight and Luke did well after weathering that storm in the first 3 rounds. I had Linares by 2 rounds but it could have been so different if Luke hadn't been so careless in that second round.
Campbell should kick on from here. Hopefully he will realise now that he can stand toe to toe with one of the best in the business at times look the slicker more well rounded operator.
campbell did great you know...and those back hand punches to the stomach were registering on linares's face every time he landed them....it was definately a close fight with luke coming on better after those first few rounds...but the right man won most definitely.Very good fight and Luke did well after weathering that storm in the first 3 rounds. I had Linares by 2 rounds but it could have been so different if Luke hadn't been so careless in that second round.
Campbell should kick on from here. Hopefully he will realise now that he can stand toe to toe with one of the best in the business at times look the slicker more well rounded operator.
NickNJ said:
I suspect Jacobs will continue fighting in the US with Hearn using him and British fighters to build a us vs gb card to develop the match room brand in the US.
Can see match room changing the boxing landscape in America.
yeah he did say that in the interview actually...for all his detractors eddie has certainly been great for british boxing by delivering the fights demanded....for me frank Warren used to stagnate too much and mug off the public by continually offering up sub standard record padders for our big names .Can see match room changing the boxing landscape in America.
Yiliterate said:
tuscaneer said:
272BHP said:
Who cares about the B list horror show? there was only one big fight last night and that was Campbell vs Linares.
Very good fight and Luke did well after weathering that storm in the first 3 rounds. I had Linares by 2 rounds but it could have been so different if Luke hadn't been so careless in that second round.
Campbell should kick on from here. Hopefully he will realise now that he can stand toe to toe with one of the best in the business at times look the slicker more well rounded operator.
campbell did great you know...and those back hand punches to the stomach were registering on linares's face every time he landed them....it was definately a close fight with luke coming on better after those first few rounds...but the right man won most definitely.Very good fight and Luke did well after weathering that storm in the first 3 rounds. I had Linares by 2 rounds but it could have been so different if Luke hadn't been so careless in that second round.
Campbell should kick on from here. Hopefully he will realise now that he can stand toe to toe with one of the best in the business at times look the slicker more well rounded operator.
tuscaneer said:
NickNJ said:
I suspect Jacobs will continue fighting in the US with Hearn using him and British fighters to build a us vs gb card to develop the match room brand in the US.
Can see match room changing the boxing landscape in America.
yeah he did say that in the interview actually...for all his detractors eddie has certainly been great for british boxing by delivering the fights demanded....for me frank Warren used to stagnate too much and mug off the public by continually offering up sub standard record padders for our big names .Can see match room changing the boxing landscape in America.
Amirhussain said:
Carl Frampton has just signed with him (Warren)
i know...i was pretty shocked by that...hes joined mtk promotions and has joined jamie moores stable...didnt see that coming!!Edited by tuscaneer on Sunday 24th September 17:48
Edited by tuscaneer on Sunday 24th September 17:54
Yiliterate said:
tuscaneer said:
just seen eddie say he's trying for jacobs/lemiuex for end of november!
Good fight...wonder whether they'll try and swing that as a final eliminator for BJS's title?Will Kell right again? The last two fights and the injuries sustained in them must surely have given him a few concerns, breaking hands and shoulders is one thing but breaking your face twice in two years as a boxer... Well I'd be running for the hills.
As for Eddie signing Jacobs, says so much about the state of the sport in the UK vs America, Danny Jacobs is a very well respected fighter and man, he's also very marketable given his story, the fact that Eddie could put together a winning bid for him really says alot about Matchroom and how strong UK boxing is.
As for Eddie signing Jacobs, says so much about the state of the sport in the UK vs America, Danny Jacobs is a very well respected fighter and man, he's also very marketable given his story, the fact that Eddie could put together a winning bid for him really says alot about Matchroom and how strong UK boxing is.
Kell vs Amir Khan would be a brilliant way to end both of their careers. They're both really vulnerable in different ways. It could be marketed WWE style reasonably easily. Feed them both a couple of journeymen on free to air t.v., and have them both crash each others' post fight interviews and press conferences.
That could easily sell out Manchester Arena.
That could easily sell out Manchester Arena.
Easily sell out the arena. A football stadium would also be filled and do big Ppv numbers.
Regardless of both fighters having recent losses and the average man on the street is of the opinion Khan can't fight, with the match room juganaut providing exposure and build up it'd be massive and an Outstanding fight.
Fury fighting for free last night shows how good match room are, also can't understand frampton letting apersonal relationship cost himself upwards of £20mil
Regardless of both fighters having recent losses and the average man on the street is of the opinion Khan can't fight, with the match room juganaut providing exposure and build up it'd be massive and an Outstanding fight.
Fury fighting for free last night shows how good match room are, also can't understand frampton letting apersonal relationship cost himself upwards of £20mil
tuscaneer said:
defo pal.cracking fight...and yeah, fast hands!!!....considering how quick campbell is you usually see a marked difference between him and the opponent.....not last night.....great building fight for campbell even though he lost...hell come back better again....i think id happily back him against flannagan tomorrow
Blimey...Campbell also had this going on in his personal life. Makes last night's performance even more credible:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/41381169
Yiliterate said:
Blimey...Campbell also had this going on in his personal life. Makes last night's performance even more credible:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/41381169
jesus Christ i didn't know he'd died only 2 weeks ago...poor sod being stuck out there dealing with all that....i knew his dad had been ill for years and even though the family knew it was terminal i know from personal experience with my mum that even when you know the inevitable is coming it never prepares you for the numbness that follows when you finally get the phone call....i respect him even more now knowing that.http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/41381169
i remember a guy called steve roberts who was a great domestic fighter back in the late 90s. i always watched him fight....it was around the same time as colin dunne and billy schwer and those guys were fighting......his grandmother brought him up and she died the night before he fought a step up fight against the guy that cleaned gary lockett out....i couldn't see how he could perform but he turned in a career best effort...
Mannerman said:
I'm not going to question decisions, even though my scoring sometimes has the other person winning.
Some people had GGG winning, that's cool. Some people had Parker winning, that's cool. Some had Fury winning, that's cool, too. Ultimately, we've assigned judges this task and it leaves the outcome open to debate.
The thing is both GGG and Parker fought the same type of fight, but way more people are saying that GGG won and was robbed. There are way more people siding with Hughie Fury than Canelo. I just want to say that at some point, clean shots needs to score better than aggression. When Calzaghe beat Bika, not many people complained, yet it was Bika beating on Calzaghe and pressuring him for most of the fight. I also recall immediately after the Mayweather - De la Hoya fight, a bunch of casual fans were bitterly complaining the decision.
I'd also like to add that compubox stats are incredibly unreliable. In the GGG - Canelo fight, supposedly GGG punched Canelo 218 times, 110 of those being power punches. Well, either GGG isn't nearly the monster puncher everyone makes him out to be, Canelo has skin made of elephant hide or most of the punches were slipped, parried or blocked because all Canelo had was a slight blemish. A SLIGHT BLEMISH AFTER 110 OF GGG'S POWER PUNCHES.
It just looks like tribal fanboyism runs rampant in this sport.
Power punches are anything that isn't a jab mate, so even if he was just tapping Canelo with a right hand and nowhere near at full force it is counted as a power punch in the stats. Some people had GGG winning, that's cool. Some people had Parker winning, that's cool. Some had Fury winning, that's cool, too. Ultimately, we've assigned judges this task and it leaves the outcome open to debate.
The thing is both GGG and Parker fought the same type of fight, but way more people are saying that GGG won and was robbed. There are way more people siding with Hughie Fury than Canelo. I just want to say that at some point, clean shots needs to score better than aggression. When Calzaghe beat Bika, not many people complained, yet it was Bika beating on Calzaghe and pressuring him for most of the fight. I also recall immediately after the Mayweather - De la Hoya fight, a bunch of casual fans were bitterly complaining the decision.
I'd also like to add that compubox stats are incredibly unreliable. In the GGG - Canelo fight, supposedly GGG punched Canelo 218 times, 110 of those being power punches. Well, either GGG isn't nearly the monster puncher everyone makes him out to be, Canelo has skin made of elephant hide or most of the punches were slipped, parried or blocked because all Canelo had was a slight blemish. A SLIGHT BLEMISH AFTER 110 OF GGG'S POWER PUNCHES.
It just looks like tribal fanboyism runs rampant in this sport.
briangriffin said:
Power punches are anything that isn't a jab mate, so even if he was just tapping Canelo with a right hand and nowhere near at full force it is counted as a power punch in the stats.
Even still, 110 of them supposedly got through along with 108 jabs and all he had was a slight blemish. If those numbers are true, GGG must've thought that Canelo is some type of terminator.He pretty much walked through his best punches unaffected.
To be fair, you could argue the other way around, too. And GGG definitely had more ring generalship.
Mannerman said:
briangriffin said:
Power punches are anything that isn't a jab mate, so even if he was just tapping Canelo with a right hand and nowhere near at full force it is counted as a power punch in the stats.
Even still, 110 of them supposedly got through along with 108 jabs and all he had was a slight blemish. If those numbers are true, GGG must've thought that Canelo is some type of terminator.He pretty much walked through his best punches unaffected.
To be fair, you could argue the other way around, too. And GGG definitely had more ring generalship.
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