The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
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fridaypassion said:
It's one of the oddities of boxing that almost all of the fighters in a division will have had these behind closed doors dust ups. Maybe these sessions influence taking on certain opponents in the future.
5 live pod replayed fury taking about sparring AJ ten years ago and been impressed. I think he actually said AJ would be world champ.
They seem to be ducking each other now!
the way i see it is how i detailed the breakdown a few weeks ago... people that say fury will box his head off to a shutout aren't looking at the bigger picture.... but on the other side of the fence the people who see joshua blowing him away are massively wide of the mark too...5 live pod replayed fury taking about sparring AJ ten years ago and been impressed. I think he actually said AJ would be world champ.
They seem to be ducking each other now!
it's a good, close match up and despite what either of them says now they both know the other is a great fighter and respect each others skill set massively.
tuscaneer said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
tuscaneer said:
i think in that instance nobody quite knew how shot to s
t haye was, and bellew still had some tread on the tyres.... in retrospect it was grim but beforehand didn't look too bad......
Exactly this.t haye was, and bellew still had some tread on the tyres.... in retrospect it was grim but beforehand didn't look too bad......Even the very best of Bellew doesn’t belong in the same sport, let alone same ring as the best of David Haye. It just wasn’t clear at the time that that was the guy that used to be David Haye.
i know sparring is sparring and a fight is a fight but by all accounts (i can't remember for which haye fight) they both went down to haye's gym to prep him for an upcoming fight and gave him a very hard time... pricey i can see it, he's massive and has a cracking jab and the reach of king kong..... i was surprised at bellew having such apparent success though... i have been a big fan of haye since the amateurs...i remember watching him in the world's i think it was.. it was actually on bbc if memory serves me... anyway he was just captivating to watch. can't remember who the opponent was but he threw this right hand that he turned into an uppercut from a good way out, landed and dropped the guy... i'd never seen anyone throw that punch before and it was so instantanious..incredible)
saunders does it off the jab...derry showed me how to do it on the pads (i'm southpaw too)...great, sneaky shot..launch a jab to the chest then pivot your knuckles outward and downward at the end of the shot and sneak under a high guard... really difficult to do and you lose a bit of power but it works in sparring.. nobody expects it to come...
anyway, there was never a flicker of doubt in bellew when the fight was made... i remember thinking to myself there was no way he could win..... either he knew more about the injury or that sparring from years earlier had given him enough confidence to think he could clean out an older , slower haye.
Any predictions for Benn vs Vargas? I don’t particularly want Vargas to win, but I’d like to see Benn lose. I suppose it’s a combination of his sense of self-entitlement, arrogance and also his “fast track” to fame as a commercial commodity. Unfortunately boxing is a business first, sport second. I think that Benn, Hatton, Eubank and Chavez Jr show how people have huge appetite for the “rerun of Dad” storyline.
ThePackMan said:
Any predictions for Benn vs Vargas? I don’t particularly want Vargas to win, but I’d like to see Benn lose. I suppose it’s a combination of his sense of self-entitlement, arrogance and also his “fast track” to fame as a commercial commodity. Unfortunately boxing is a business first, sport second. I think that Benn, Hatton, Eubank and Chavez Jr show how people have huge appetite for the “rerun of Dad” storyline.
I have watched a great deal of him but he showed a lot of heart in the fight he was knocked down in a few times, and you can capitalise on 'dad' as much as you want but ya can't teach heart...The testosterone was still pumping around his body though so I can understand a bit of his post-fight attitude. He would have expected more time in the ring to spend it but, having hyped himself up in expectation of a lengthy fight, he finished it super quick. I mean, did Vargas even land a punch of any description...at all? If he did I missed it.
272BHP said:
Anyone else look at Savannah Marshall and think that you have seen that style before?
It's like someone has said to her in sparring 'Show me your best Muhammad Ali impression' and she made a career out of it.
She reminds me of Tyson Fury - can really see Peter's work there. She's absolutely brilliant, really hope she gets the fight with Shields, too and gives her a whooping. Shame there's not any depth in the women's division.It's like someone has said to her in sparring 'Show me your best Muhammad Ali impression' and she made a career out of it.
Vargas trains out of the gym at the end of my road here in Toronto. Watched his fight with Virgil Ortiz Jnr a few months ago and can't believe what Benn has just done. Vargas is a tough motherfker, everytime he's stepped up he's been comprehensively outclassed but he still went the distance with Khan, lasted 4 rounds with Spence, 7 with Danny Garcia and 7 with Ortiz. Ortiz bullied him all night until it was stopped but Vargas was taking his shots and Ortiz hits hard, Benn must have scary power to do what he did last night.
Don't want to go overboard because whilst he's looked very, very good in his last 2 fights it's not that long ago he was dropped twice by a nobody. I think David Avanesyan would be an excellent next fight for him and give us a good gauge of his ability and potential.
WW has some great prospects coming through that will hopefully help make up for Spence and Crawford never fighting one another. Boots Ennis put in another impressive showing last night, him and Ortiz look like potential future P4P stars. Hopefully Connor can show he's got similar potential.
ker, everytime he's stepped up he's been comprehensively outclassed but he still went the distance with Khan, lasted 4 rounds with Spence, 7 with Danny Garcia and 7 with Ortiz. Ortiz bullied him all night until it was stopped but Vargas was taking his shots and Ortiz hits hard, Benn must have scary power to do what he did last night. Don't want to go overboard because whilst he's looked very, very good in his last 2 fights it's not that long ago he was dropped twice by a nobody. I think David Avanesyan would be an excellent next fight for him and give us a good gauge of his ability and potential.
WW has some great prospects coming through that will hopefully help make up for Spence and Crawford never fighting one another. Boots Ennis put in another impressive showing last night, him and Ortiz look like potential future P4P stars. Hopefully Connor can show he's got similar potential.
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