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markh1973

1,895 posts

170 months

Sunday 8th June 2014
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RizzoTheRat said:
markh1973 said:
How did your 10k go Rizzo?
Slow and steady, first time I've ever run that far (had planned to do more training but busy few weeks meant I hadn't run further than 5k in the last month), and last week's parkrun was a disaster, so set out to do sub 70 minutes, and ended up with 67 minutes so happy with that. The Mrs ran it with me (she's way faster than me) to keep me to pace as otherwise I'd have set off too fast and died half way round. It's a 3 race series with one per month, so I've entered all 3. Would be nice to try and break 60 minutes by the last one, with with my current 5k PB at just over 28 minutes I think that's a stretch goal, going to aim for sub 65 in race 2 and see how far I think I push it in the August one.

One of the things I love about running though is how mates who were doing it in 40-50 minutes were congratulation me on it, when they'd finished before I'd even hit the 7km marker biggrin
Good stuff - 2 more races and some more miles under your belt and you should bring it down towards or sub 60.

My wife has a parkrun PB of 29:30 and ran her first 10k in about 62:35 which might give you some indication.

The camararderie is good. I was dieing yesterday with about 500m to go and another guy ran past encouraging me to keep going.

BrabusMog

20,280 posts

188 months

Sunday 8th June 2014
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I've been helping someone out to pass their fitness test which was to do the Cooper Run. Does anyone else do this? Really been enjoying a few blasts of 12 minute running, I get a lot more satisfaction from it then just running for an hour aimlessly.

lost in espace

6,205 posts

209 months

Sunday 8th June 2014
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St Albans half, 1.50 for me. Walked about 10 minutes of that, I know I have a sub 1.40 but need the right course and day. Felt hilly, 3,500 runners. Slow start due to numbers. Considered giving up running altogether about mile 4, very tough.

RizzoTheRat

25,406 posts

194 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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markh1973 said:
My wife has a parkrun PB of 29:30 and ran her first 10k in about 62:35 which might give you some indication.
My Mrs seems to manage to do longer distances at a very similar pace to her shorter ones, but I was always a sprinter not a long distance runner in my youth and find increasing my distance a lot harder than increasing my speed on shorter distances.

Unfortunately she can't make the next one, having someone with me definitely helped as my biggest problem is mental rather than physical, and if I'd been running alone I'd probably have walked for a bit when it started hurting.

ShortShift811

533 posts

144 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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RizzoTheRat said:
Slow and steady, first time I've ever run that far (had planned to do more training but busy few weeks meant I hadn't run further than 5k in the last month), and last week's parkrun was a disaster, so set out to do sub 70 minutes, and ended up with 67 minutes so happy with that. The Mrs ran it with me (she's way faster than me) to keep me to pace as otherwise I'd have set off too fast and died half way round. It's a 3 race series with one per month, so I've entered all 3. Would be nice to try and break 60 minutes by the last one, with with my current 5k PB at just over 28 minutes I think that's a stretch goal, going to aim for sub 65 in race 2 and see how far I think I push it in the August one.

One of the things I love about running though is how mates who were doing it in 40-50 minutes were congratulation me on it, when they'd finished before I'd even hit the 7km marker biggrin
Good to see this, and well done on finishing! I'm doing my first 10K at the end of July. Always had decent base fitness, but never been an out and out runner, so training started last week. Got a 26:10 for my first 5K run on Sunday, so anything around (or even just under) the hour mark and I'll be a very happy chap.

markh1973

1,895 posts

170 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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ShortShift811 said:
RizzoTheRat said:
Slow and steady, first time I've ever run that far (had planned to do more training but busy few weeks meant I hadn't run further than 5k in the last month), and last week's parkrun was a disaster, so set out to do sub 70 minutes, and ended up with 67 minutes so happy with that. The Mrs ran it with me (she's way faster than me) to keep me to pace as otherwise I'd have set off too fast and died half way round. It's a 3 race series with one per month, so I've entered all 3. Would be nice to try and break 60 minutes by the last one, with with my current 5k PB at just over 28 minutes I think that's a stretch goal, going to aim for sub 65 in race 2 and see how far I think I push it in the August one.

One of the things I love about running though is how mates who were doing it in 40-50 minutes were congratulation me on it, when they'd finished before I'd even hit the 7km marker biggrin
Good to see this, and well done on finishing! I'm doing my first 10K at the end of July. Always had decent base fitness, but never been an out and out runner, so training started last week. Got a 26:10 for my first 5K run on Sunday, so anything around (or even just under) the hour mark and I'll be a very happy chap.
I only started last autumn after doing hardly any exercise for 20 years. Since then have been going out 3 times most weeks and just putting some miles in - not huge amounts but just running.

Since then I have dropped my parkrun PB by 4 minutes to 21:43, run two 5 mile races in about 37 minutes and a 10k in 2 seconds under 44 minutes.

Need to start putting more miles in before my first half in October so might join the local running club to try and get some company/advice.

alfa phil

2,111 posts

209 months

Monday 9th June 2014
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lost in espace said:
St Albans half, 1.50 for me. Walked about 10 minutes of that, I know I have a sub 1.40 but need the right course and day. Felt hilly, 3,500 runners. Slow start due to numbers. Considered giving up running altogether about mile 4, very tough.
I know some good club runners who did this race yesterday and they were saying it was a hard run in that heat,
some races are a lot harder than others. onwards and upwards smile

RizzoTheRat

25,406 posts

194 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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markh1973 said:
I only started last autumn after doing hardly any exercise for 20 years. Since then have been going out 3 times most weeks and just putting some miles in - not huge amounts but just running.

Since then I have dropped my parkrun PB by 4 minutes to 21:43, run two 5 mile races in about 37 minutes and a 10k in 2 seconds under 44 minutes.

Need to start putting more miles in before my first half in October so might join the local running club to try and get some company/advice.
Good work, I'm in a similar situation (and same age judging by your username) but a bit lazier. Only just started getting out 3 times a week having started running last year and been doing twice a week most of the winter. Parkrun PB is currently 28:16 so I'm hoping to drop that a fair bit this year and do a few more more 10k's

markh1973

1,895 posts

170 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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RizzoTheRat said:
markh1973 said:
I only started last autumn after doing hardly any exercise for 20 years. Since then have been going out 3 times most weeks and just putting some miles in - not huge amounts but just running.

Since then I have dropped my parkrun PB by 4 minutes to 21:43, run two 5 mile races in about 37 minutes and a 10k in 2 seconds under 44 minutes.

Need to start putting more miles in before my first half in October so might join the local running club to try and get some company/advice.
Good work, I'm in a similar situation (and same age judging by your username) but a bit lazier. Only just started getting out 3 times a week having started running last year and been doing twice a week most of the winter. Parkrun PB is currently 28:16 so I'm hoping to drop that a fair bit this year and do a few more more 10k's
Running is a method that I have found works for me to help handle depression - brought on in part this time by not dealing well with my birthday last October. If I go out and run I find it one of the few times when I just empty my mind and think about very little other than the pace I'm running and how far I have gone.

For the most part that works although I did find that after the high of my first race at the beginning of last month I had a real low for a couple of days when I needed to rest in order to recover.

I don't very often get to do parkrun at my pace as I am usally running with one of my kids but have got that down to 21:43 which I was pleased with.

As I said my plan now is to increase the mileage, do some more races (they are addictive) and then see how fast I can do my half in October.

First step is to go out with the running club this evening - I'm not good at mixing with new people so whilst it is something I want to do it's also pyschologically a big step for me.

ewenm

28,506 posts

247 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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markh1973 said:
Running is a method that I have found works for me to help handle depression - brought on in part this time by not dealing well with my birthday last October. If I go out and run I find it one of the few times when I just empty my mind and think about very little other than the pace I'm running and how far I have gone.

For the most part that works although I did find that after the high of my first race at the beginning of last month I had a real low for a couple of days when I needed to rest in order to recover.

I don't very often get to do parkrun at my pace as I am usally running with one of my kids but have got that down to 21:43 which I was pleased with.

As I said my plan now is to increase the mileage, do some more races (they are addictive) and then see how fast I can do my half in October.

First step is to go out with the running club this evening - I'm not good at mixing with new people so whilst it is something I want to do it's also pyschologically a big step for me.
Running keeps me mentally balanced too. Good luck with the club tonight. Be aware that running clubs can be a bit weird and the people who chat to new members can be the weirder people in the group. Try not to be too disheartened if you don't feel immediately part of the group - it can take a few club nights before it becomes more comfortable. One of my big bugbears with some running clubs is their apparent inability to make new members feel welcome. I'm sure some are good at it, but many are not.

The jiffle king

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6,951 posts

260 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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markh1973 said:
Running is a method that I have found works for me to help handle depression - brought on in part this time by not dealing well with my birthday last October. If I go out and run I find it one of the few times when I just empty my mind and think about very little other than the pace I'm running and how far I have gone.

For the most part that works although I did find that after the high of my first race at the beginning of last month I had a real low for a couple of days when I needed to rest in order to recover.

I don't very often get to do parkrun at my pace as I am usally running with one of my kids but have got that down to 21:43 which I was pleased with.

As I said my plan now is to increase the mileage, do some more races (they are addictive) and then see how fast I can do my half in October.

First step is to go out with the running club this evening - I'm not good at mixing with new people so whilst it is something I want to do it's also pyschologically a big step for me.
Firstly, well done for getting out there and dealing with the issue and also for running. I never really wanted to start running, but my wife wanted to go to a running club, so I went along. The first couple of weeks were awkward as I met lots of people, many of whom overwhelmed me, but I found a couple of people who were "my type of people" and I chatted to them and ran with them. Over a short period of time, I made very good friends who I still know today. Hope that you have a great run tonight and enjoy meeting some like minded people.

Update on TJK - I have been building up very slowly and this morning did 40 minutes for the first time on the treadmill here in Dallas with no ill affects.





RizzoTheRat

25,406 posts

194 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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markh1973 said:
Running is a method that I have found works for me to help handle depression - brought on in part this time by not dealing well with my birthday last October.
It's amazing how many people I know who've taken up running as they've turned 40 biggrin

ED209

5,778 posts

246 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Did the blaydon race last night . Wasn't looking forward to it as carrying a few extra pounds after honeymoon and been suffering a cold lately. Around ten years ago i did 44.01 and due to my lack of fitness at the minute was expecting about the same time. I was hoping to come in the first 1000 of the 400ish entries.

Well it was warm, I went off far too fast for my current fitness, my garmin didn't get a signal until about 1.2 miles in but i knew from the mile markers i was going too fast. I paid for it between 4-5 miles when i had something of a breakdown and considered walking for a while however i picked myself up and got going again, the finish then came quicker than i though so i missed out on properly going for it in the last 400m or so.

It was a bit of a disaster really so I was amazed when i crossed the line in a chip time of 40 mins 20 seconds for the 5.9 miles. Over the moon about it, but also gutted that my meltdown probably cost me sub 40 mins! My overall position was 599th so well ahead of my target.

Still waiting for the team results to go online because the (new) wife was just behind me on 40 mins 53 seconds and we were hoping for a top 10 finish in the "me and wor lass" category. From looking at the past few years result we should just about manage it, more due to her being fast for a woman than due to my ability though!


Went out this afternoon for another 3.5 miles which took me over my 1000 mile target for the calendar year 1st Aug 2013 to 31st July 2014. Pleased as its about 7 weeks ahead of schedule. Set a new target of 1095 miles now to equal 3 miles a day average for a year.

In other news we have both entered next years Edinburgh marathon. The hotels booked and although its almost a full year away I'm still thinking "What have i done?"

Heres me looking like i am about to die at the end of my 4-5 mile meltdown.

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ewenm

28,506 posts

247 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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Did a long run to work this morning: 15.5 miles in 1h43m averaging 6:49/mile and arrived at work at 7am. Somewhat tired now but great to have the week's long run done. I had forgotten that it is overall uphill and all the climbing is in the second half of the run - running home from work is a fair bit easier!

markh1973

1,895 posts

170 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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The jiffle king said:
Firstly, well done for getting out there and dealing with the issue and also for running. I never really wanted to start running, but my wife wanted to go to a running club, so I went along. The first couple of weeks were awkward as I met lots of people, many of whom overwhelmed me, but I found a couple of people who were "my type of people" and I chatted to them and ran with them. Over a short period of time, I made very good friends who I still know today. Hope that you have a great run tonight and enjoy meeting some like minded people.

Update on TJK - I have been building up very slowly and this morning did 40 minutes for the first time on the treadmill here in Dallas with no ill affects.
Cheers TJK - went out and had a good run - went for the conservative option for pace and coped fine.

I kind of know the guy who led the group as I have seen him at a few parkruns so that helped make the decision.

Was an eventful run as on eof the guys took a tumble in the woods - bashed up his face a bit - so we had a half hour wait whilst someone ran to get a car to pick him up.

Was definitely worthwhile as I'm not good at making myself run slower so going out with a group running slower was a positive for me. It's easier to fit going out with them into the family routine than it is to fit running for the same time alone.

Should be back next week although they are doing a 9 mile special summer run and I have never run 9 miles.

RizzoTheRat

25,406 posts

194 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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markh1973 said:
Was definitely worthwhile as I'm not good at making myself run slower so going out with a group running slower was a positive for me. It's easier to fit going out with them into the family routine than it is to fit running for the same time alone.
Do you have a running watch? I find I always set off too fast and then die, so being able to set a pace on my watch so it keeps beeping at me if I'm going too fast is a good way to get a more consistent speed. I agree running with someone else is a hell of lot easier, though as my Mrs pointed out to me, a lot of people start quick and then slow down so be careful of sticking with someone who seems about the right pace as they can slow down without you really realising it and suddenly you find you've been plodding along way to slow for the last half mile.

markh1973

1,895 posts

170 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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RizzoTheRat said:
markh1973 said:
Was definitely worthwhile as I'm not good at making myself run slower so going out with a group running slower was a positive for me. It's easier to fit going out with them into the family routine than it is to fit running for the same time alone.
Do you have a running watch? I find I always set off too fast and then die, so being able to set a pace on my watch so it keeps beeping at me if I'm going too fast is a good way to get a more consistent speed. I agree running with someone else is a hell of lot easier, though as my Mrs pointed out to me, a lot of people start quick and then slow down so be careful of sticking with someone who seems about the right pace as they can slow down without you really realising it and suddenly you find you've been plodding along way to slow for the last half mile.
I have a running watch (in fact I have two) I'm just not very disciplined about slowing down. I tend to fall into the trap of running at about 5 minute ks and spending the next 40 minutes thinking that this is all very easy. Then I start to struggle and don't have the motivation of racing or having a finish line to aim for and so end up walking for a bit. What I need to do is to drop my pace to, say 6 minute ks, and then run further. I'm hoping that's the advantage that going out with the running club should give me. There are a few groups running quicker than the one I went out with last night so plenty of scope to change group if/when I want to.

It's the same as I achieve when I go out running with the dog as he isn't keen on travelling too quick. When I took him out the other week I ended up doing two laps of the field near our house at the end of the run while he just plodded down one side looking confused. Then again it was hot and he is a lump of a yellow labrador so not designed for moving too swiftly.

RizzoTheRat

25,406 posts

194 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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There was a chap at a parkrun recently with a Husky on a lead, he said he alternates which dog he takes each week and is about a minute faster with the Husky compared to when he takes the Labrador hehe

MrBaker

323 posts

132 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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New 5k PB for me last night. 23.22 , nothing amazing but shaved 30 seconds off my previous - and it was roasting hot smile

MrBaker

323 posts

132 months

Thursday 12th June 2014
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New 5k PB for me last night. 23.22 , nothing amazing but shaved 30 seconds off my previous - and it was roasting hot smile
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