Six Nations 2018
Discussion
Joey Ramone said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43235314
Disgusting. But not particularly surprising
Hastings and Berghan were idiots too.
I'm sure Jones will want to grind Scotland into the dust next time round.
Well I hope Jones stays more classy than that. Disgusting. But not particularly surprising
Hastings and Berghan were idiots too.
I'm sure Jones will want to grind Scotland into the dust next time round.
However, I can only imagine the outrage if this was outside Twickenham. Hastings really needs to be more measured. But on the other hand, I think Brian Moore has offended pretty much everyone over the years ..
DocJock said:
I am reading that Eddie Jones was verbally and physically abused by Scots 'fans' on his way home at the weekend.
What an embarrassing bunch of bigoted idiots. I'd like to apologise on behalf of proper Scots rugby fans, we're not all uncivilised bravehearts...
I can't help wondering how much that mournful dirge of a "National Anthem" Flower of Scotland is to blame for this sort of thing?What an embarrassing bunch of bigoted idiots. I'd like to apologise on behalf of proper Scots rugby fans, we're not all uncivilised bravehearts...
It really can't be all that great for the national psyche to start every rugby (and football?) match with a song about how the pinnacle of your achievement as a country was to temporarily avoid being conquered 800 years ago, coupled with the recognition that all is lost and you can't go back, can it?
Kermit power said:
I can't help wondering how much that mournful dirge of a "National Anthem" Flower of Scotland is to blame for this sort of thing?
It really can't be all that great for the national psyche to start every rugby (and football?) match with a song about how the pinnacle of your achievement as a country was to temporarily avoid being conquered 800 years ago, coupled with the recognition that all is lost and you can't go back, can it?
The issue captured in a nutshell - thanks for that. It really can't be all that great for the national psyche to start every rugby (and football?) match with a song about how the pinnacle of your achievement as a country was to temporarily avoid being conquered 800 years ago, coupled with the recognition that all is lost and you can't go back, can it?
I"ll refer you to verse six of the UK (English) national anthem... An anthem so mired in history and hostility it makes FoS sound like a nursery rhyme.
By the way - Disgraceful behaviour by the Scottish fans that abused EJ - Hope they are found and banned from Murrayfield at least.
Kermit power said:
I can't help wondering how much that mournful dirge of a "National Anthem" Flower of Scotland is to blame for this sort of thing?
It really can't be all that great for the national psyche to start every rugby (and football?) match with a song about how the pinnacle of your achievement as a country was to temporarily avoid being conquered 800 years ago, coupled with the recognition that all is lost and you can't go back, can it?
Just to make it worse, they have even bastardised that dirge.It really can't be all that great for the national psyche to start every rugby (and football?) match with a song about how the pinnacle of your achievement as a country was to temporarily avoid being conquered 800 years ago, coupled with the recognition that all is lost and you can't go back, can it?
I'd be having 'Scotland the brave', it's far more upbeat.
A video clip on bbc sport website.
Basically they are pissed up.
Firstly Eddie happily allowed a few selfies
1. Says hey Eddie you got trousered last night.
2. Then the banter gets worse and they crowed round him
3. One said oi you badly
4. One said I think fk off home you English tosser
5 then another shouldered you English badly fking .
Horrible - glad it’s all on camera hope they feel utterly ashamed
Basically they are pissed up.
Firstly Eddie happily allowed a few selfies
1. Says hey Eddie you got trousered last night.
2. Then the banter gets worse and they crowed round him
3. One said oi you badly
4. One said I think f
k off home you English tosser5 then another shouldered you English badly f
king . Horrible - glad it’s all on camera hope they feel utterly ashamed
DocJock said:
I am reading that Eddie Jones was verbally and physically abused by Scots 'fans' on his way home at the weekend.
What an embarrassing bunch of bigoted idiots. I'd like to apologise on behalf of proper Scots rugby fans, we're not all uncivilised bravehearts...
Well said...What an embarrassing bunch of bigoted idiots. I'd like to apologise on behalf of proper Scots rugby fans, we're not all uncivilised bravehearts...
Welshbeef said:
A video clip on bbc sport website.
Basically they are pissed up.
Firstly Eddie happily allowed a few selfies
1. Says hey Eddie you got trousered last night.
2. Then the banter gets worse and they crowed round him
3. One said oi you badly
4. One said I think fk off home you English tosser
5 then another shouldered you English badly fking .
Horrible - glad it’s all on camera hope they feel utterly ashamed
Absolutely disgusting behaviour.Basically they are pissed up.
Firstly Eddie happily allowed a few selfies
1. Says hey Eddie you got trousered last night.
2. Then the banter gets worse and they crowed round him
3. One said oi you badly
4. One said I think f
k off home you English tosser5 then another shouldered you English badly f
king . Horrible - glad it’s all on camera hope they feel utterly ashamed
towser said:
DocJock said:
I am reading that Eddie Jones was verbally and physically abused by Scots 'fans' on his way home at the weekend.
What an embarrassing bunch of bigoted idiots. I'd like to apologise on behalf of proper Scots rugby fans, we're not all uncivilised bravehearts...
Absolutely, bloody morons.....EJ was the perfect gent in the post match interview and very magnanimous in defeat....now saying he'll not use public transport in the UK again because of this. What an embarrassing bunch of bigoted idiots. I'd like to apologise on behalf of proper Scots rugby fans, we're not all uncivilised bravehearts...
As an Englishman, I love it when my team wins - but I am always deeply respectful of our opponents, particularly Scotland, Wales and Ireland. That's how rugby has always been. I do hope it's not changing.
ABZ RS6 said:
abzmike said:
Hope they are found and banned from Murrayfield at least.
I would bet that they do not even know where Murrayfield is.On other matters, what's up with these two ABZ accounts with near identical post count and longevity?
[quote=Joey Ramone][quote=towser]
Same as Wales did to Scotland on the 1st weekend of the championship, blew them away with passion and fine rugby....and I doff my cap to them for that.
I don't whole heartily agree that Wales blew Scotland away with 'passion'. The Welsh were playing good rugby, no question, but Scotland's recent success is based on outstanding patience. In the Scotland v NZ match in November the Scots built up around 155 phases, playing to NZs 55. Once Scotland start attacking they don't stop. If their forward drive doesn't grind you down their effective 1-3-3-1 attack patterns, kicking game and grubber play will.
In the Wales game Scotland were playing the same sort of rugby that they were playing in the autumn for the first quarter. On the 15 min mark Scotland could well have scored from a break by Huw Jones, had they scored the match may have turned out differently. The issue was Scotland went down 14-0 at half time to a side they believed to have parity with. So the Scottish lost their patience and faith in their ability to win the game. You could see that in the erratic and forced plays by Ali Price and Finn Russell. They didn't have the mental strength to get themselves back in to a game, and keep to the strategy, unlike Wales who have a never say die approach.
Scotland's biggest weakness is their mental strength. Once they have that sorted they're going to be a real force in rugby. By 2023, if they continue their development, they'll be a consistent top 5 side in my opinion.
Same as Wales did to Scotland on the 1st weekend of the championship, blew them away with passion and fine rugby....and I doff my cap to them for that.
I don't whole heartily agree that Wales blew Scotland away with 'passion'. The Welsh were playing good rugby, no question, but Scotland's recent success is based on outstanding patience. In the Scotland v NZ match in November the Scots built up around 155 phases, playing to NZs 55. Once Scotland start attacking they don't stop. If their forward drive doesn't grind you down their effective 1-3-3-1 attack patterns, kicking game and grubber play will.
In the Wales game Scotland were playing the same sort of rugby that they were playing in the autumn for the first quarter. On the 15 min mark Scotland could well have scored from a break by Huw Jones, had they scored the match may have turned out differently. The issue was Scotland went down 14-0 at half time to a side they believed to have parity with. So the Scottish lost their patience and faith in their ability to win the game. You could see that in the erratic and forced plays by Ali Price and Finn Russell. They didn't have the mental strength to get themselves back in to a game, and keep to the strategy, unlike Wales who have a never say die approach.
Scotland's biggest weakness is their mental strength. Once they have that sorted they're going to be a real force in rugby. By 2023, if they continue their development, they'll be a consistent top 5 side in my opinion.
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