Six Nations 2018
Discussion
DocJock said:
Sexton over anyone will improve a team.
I really don't see what's so special about Sexton. Then again, I didn't see it about BOD either.That's not an anti Irish thing, as I'll support them against anyone but England or Wales, but I just don't see why they're rated as so special.
Ructions said:
Kermit power said:
I really don't see what's so special about Sexton. Then again, I didn't see it about BOD either.
Sexton I can understand, but BOD, really???It's maybe the last 10-20% of everyone's adulation that bemused me.
MYOB said:
Kermit power said:
I really don't see what's so special about Sexton.
You're kidding right? Don't you remember his cross field kick to Earls and the drop goal against France to win the game? Not many can pull that off.Kermit power said:
DocJock said:
Sexton over anyone will improve a team.
I really don't see what's so special about Sexton. Then again, I didn't see it about BOD either.That's not an anti Irish thing, as I'll support them against anyone but England or Wales, but I just don't see why they're rated as so special.
MYOB said:
Kermit power said:
I really don't see what's so special about Sexton.
You're kidding right? Don't you remember his cross field kick to Earls and the drop goal against France to win the game? Not many can pull that off.Ok, so he nailed a drop goal, and a very good one at that. I wouldn't say it came close to Wilkinson's to win the World Cup for performance under pressure on a single kick, nor Jannie f
king De Beer dropping what was it, five(?) to put England down.Again, I'm not saying he's not a very good player, but the original statement was "Sexton over anyone will improve a team"!
Dan Carter? Beauden Barrett? Jonny Wilkinson? Why not go back further and put him up against the likes of Phil Bennett out Barry John?
To suggest Sexton over anyone would improve a team is just utterly absurd.
Kermit power said:
Marcus Smith has been putting in cross field kicks all season for Quins, and he's only just turned 19.
Yes, but the kick by Sexton was not in normal play and was during a highly pressurised situation when Ireland simply could not lose possession.Kermit power said:
Ok, so he nailed a drop goal, and a very good one at that. I wouldn't say it came close to Wilkinson's to win the World Cup for performance under pressure on a single kick, nor Jannie fking De Beer dropping what was it, five(?) to put England down.
It was up there amongst the best, but as you say, the circumstances were different so no, it's not as comparable to Wilkinson's. The kick itself yes, but not the occasion.king De Beer dropping what was it, five(?) to put England down.Kermit power said:
Again, I'm not saying he's not a very good player, but the original statement was "Sexton over anyone will improve a team"!
Dan Carter? Beauden Barrett? Jonny Wilkinson? Why not go back further and put him up against the likes of Phil Bennett out Barry John?
To suggest Sexton over anyone would improve a team is just utterly absurd.
Yes I agree with you. Perhaps in the current crop of 6 Nations players though?Dan Carter? Beauden Barrett? Jonny Wilkinson? Why not go back further and put him up against the likes of Phil Bennett out Barry John?
To suggest Sexton over anyone would improve a team is just utterly absurd.
MYOB said:
Yes I agree with you. Perhaps in the current crop of 6 Nations players though?
Yes, but it's hardly worthy of elevation to sainthood, is it?A very good player, but not,I suspect, one who will feature in many "who were the greatest fly halves in history" conversations ten years from now.
Just look at how Barry John used to run, how Wilkinson completely reinvented the position with his tackling ability, it's how Dan Carter was just on another planet when it came to game management. Can anyone really say Sexton has had that sort of impact?
I was agreeing with you in that he's not up there with the best of all times but most certainly he is regarded as one of the best no.10s in current times. MYOB said:
Kermit power said:
Marcus Smith has been putting in cross field kicks all season for Quins, and he's only just turned 19.
Yes, but the kick by Sexton was not in normal play and was during a highly pressurised situation when Ireland simply could not lose possession.Kermit power said:
Ok, so he nailed a drop goal, and a very good one at that. I wouldn't say it came close to Wilkinson's to win the World Cup for performance under pressure on a single kick, nor Jannie fking De Beer dropping what was it, five(?) to put England down.
It was up there amongst the best, but as you say, the circumstances were different so no, it's not as comparable to Wilkinson's. The kick itself yes, but not the occasion.king De Beer dropping what was it, five(?) to put England down.Kermit power said:
Again, I'm not saying he's not a very good player, but the original statement was "Sexton over anyone will improve a team"!
Dan Carter? Beauden Barrett? Jonny Wilkinson? Why not go back further and put him up against the likes of Phil Bennett out Barry John?
To suggest Sexton over anyone would improve a team is just utterly absurd.
Yes I agree with you. Perhaps in the current crop of 6 Nations players though?Dan Carter? Beauden Barrett? Jonny Wilkinson? Why not go back further and put him up against the likes of Phil Bennett out Barry John?
To suggest Sexton over anyone would improve a team is just utterly absurd.
TBH I find the All Blacks so arrogant and annoying that I love it when any team manages to defeat them, and it's to their credit that this is quite a rare occurrence.
Back on topic, I think England's defeat by Scotland could be a useful learning experience for both players and coaching staff. Notwithstanding our impressive record under Jones, we haven't looked all that convincing in the last few years, and the Sweaties exposed most of our weaknesses, especially when we're on the back foot. Whereas say the All Blacks can trail a game for 70 minutes, then suddenly go up a gear and score three tries at the death.
I will be interested to see how Scotland play away from Murrayfield, especially now they've got the monkey off their back regarding England, I'm hoping for a classic.
Back on topic, I think England's defeat by Scotland could be a useful learning experience for both players and coaching staff. Notwithstanding our impressive record under Jones, we haven't looked all that convincing in the last few years, and the Sweaties exposed most of our weaknesses, especially when we're on the back foot. Whereas say the All Blacks can trail a game for 70 minutes, then suddenly go up a gear and score three tries at the death.
I will be interested to see how Scotland play away from Murrayfield, especially now they've got the monkey off their back regarding England, I'm hoping for a classic.
Ireland team v Scotland: Rob Kearney; Keith Earls, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, Jacob Stockdale; Johnny Sexton, Conor Murray; Cian Healy, Rory Best (captain), Tadhg Furlong; James Ryan, Devin Toner; Peter O'Mahony, Dan Leavy, CJ Stander.
Replacements: Seán Cronin, Jack McGrath, Andrew Porter, Iain Henderson, Jordi Murphy, Kieran Marmion, Joey Carbery, Jordan Larmour.
Replacements: Seán Cronin, Jack McGrath, Andrew Porter, Iain Henderson, Jordi Murphy, Kieran Marmion, Joey Carbery, Jordan Larmour.
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