The **BOXING** thread (Vol 3)
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biggbn said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
biggbn said:
More dangerous than Wlad?
Whyte is certainly not more dangerous than Wlad but he is more dangerous than Wlad who hasn’t trained really because he has been flying back and forth from LA to Austria to support his wife suffering with depression and mentally wasn’t present until round 12.Up until recently Fury has had no punch but that seems to have changed for the past two Wilder fights so I suppose a last quarter stoppage is most likely, though I expect a points win personally.
Lee Jones Jnr said:
Perhaps I don't really know how people view Whyte, for me he is a spare 'Chisora at his best'.
Up until recently Fury has had no punch but that seems to have changed for the past two Wilder fights so I suppose a last quarter stoppage is most likely, though I expect a points win personally.
It's hard to know because Wilder's never really faced a puncher. Ortiz is the only other hard hitter he's been in the ring with and obviously he lasted in both those fights, barely in the first. Up until recently Fury has had no punch but that seems to have changed for the past two Wilder fights so I suppose a last quarter stoppage is most likely, though I expect a points win personally.
This Whyte fight is a really good litmus test for Fury. It's a shame we'll likely never see Wilder fight again, really want to see him Vs AJ.
Pugaris said:
It's hard to know because Wilder's never really faced a puncher. Ortiz is the only other hard hitter he's been in the ring with and obviously he lasted in both those fights, barely in the first.
This Whyte fight is a really good litmus test for Fury. It's a shame we'll likely never see Wilder fight again, really want to see him Vs AJ.
I agree. It's a good test for Fury. I think we know what Whyte will bring and it'll be more enjoyable because of that.This Whyte fight is a really good litmus test for Fury. It's a shame we'll likely never see Wilder fight again, really want to see him Vs AJ.
Can't see Whyte winning, but I wouldn't be that shocked if he does.
Pugaris said:
It's hard to know because Wilder's never really faced a puncher. Ortiz is the only other hard hitter he's been in the ring with and obviously he lasted in both those fights, barely in the first.
This Whyte fight is a really good litmus test for Fury. It's a shame we'll likely never see Wilder fight again, really want to see him Vs AJ.
I thought Wilder retiring was a real shame in the end after that last performance for me he went up hugely in my estimation. Maybe he just left it all in the ring. He's earned his money now knows what a real war is and probably doesn't want or need more of it. This Whyte fight is a really good litmus test for Fury. It's a shame we'll likely never see Wilder fight again, really want to see him Vs AJ.
Lee Jones Jnr said:
Whyte is certainly not more dangerous than Wlad but he is more dangerous than Wlad who hasn’t trained really because he has been flying back and forth from LA to Austria to support his wife suffering with depression and mentally wasn’t present until round 12.
The "Vlad" that fought AJ would have sent Whyte home early..biggbn said:
Think I just heard Joe Parker on Talk Sport saying he is fighting Joe Joyce next, that will be a really decent gauge of where Joyce is, might be quite a boring fight though?
When Joyce was sparred Fury @ Bigbear , fury cut it short & moved gyms saying the thin air @ Bigbear did not help him...GGG seemed to thrive ...Lee Jones Jnr said:
Nik Gnashers said:
Khan was saved from embarrassment by the ref, another 10 seconds and he would have been flat on his back spark out, so all this talk of 'he took the big shots well' is a bit poor.
He was wobbled more than once.
He was just talking a good fight, and real boxing people knew he was bull sitting, saying he was going to Ko Brook ... Khan never was a KO fighter, and his pitty pats were never going to stop Kell coming forward. Brook never had a mark on him at the end, Khan looked battered.
The only way for Khan to have won, would be to stay at range and pick Brook off with a speedy jab, and keep doing it for 12 rounds to get a points win.
I'm pleased that we have 'real boxing people' like yourself to give such great analysis.He was wobbled more than once.
He was just talking a good fight, and real boxing people knew he was bull sitting, saying he was going to Ko Brook ... Khan never was a KO fighter, and his pitty pats were never going to stop Kell coming forward. Brook never had a mark on him at the end, Khan looked battered.
The only way for Khan to have won, would be to stay at range and pick Brook off with a speedy jab, and keep doing it for 12 rounds to get a points win.
.I have never boxed professionally, but I did box for years, and studied Wing Chun too, I know what it's like to get punched, kicked, elbowed, knee'd and I know how to avoid them too, so I am talking from personal experience.
I looked up your record on boxrec, fair play, retired professional boxer, but I'll reply to your comment with the same childish attitude you replied to mine : not exactly much to shout about your 'career' was it son, 9 fights 7 wins 2 losses against nobodies.
Can't wait for the next exciting instalment of top level pro lee jones jnr educating the masses.
biggbn said:
Fury by KO about round 8 for me, Whyte is made for him, a come forward bruiser, easy to hit, and can be knocked out. I really don't see him as world level anymore but have been spectacularly wrong about several fights of late!!
Good call !Whyte is one of my favourite fighters, and I like him & Fury equally.
But I just can't see a way Whyte can win, unless he can avoid Fury's jab and land some body shots to slow Fury down. If he get's too close, and doesn't cover up properly, I can see Fury emulating what Povetkin did in the first fight with Whyte, and uppercuting him.
It's great for British boxing that Whyte has finally signed though, and the fight looks to be going ahead,
fridaypassion said:
Wow thats quite a match that will be a proper tear up! Have you seen the work of Joyce? 
Joyce is my favourite current heavyweight but I fear a clash of styles here. Parker is big, basic and lacks ambition but has a great chin. I think Parker will try to box cagey and I don't think even Joyce hits hard enough to stop him. Could go either way, bombs away tear up or 12 round jabbing match. Either way Joyce takes this I think. Gerradi said:
biggbn said:
Think I just heard Joe Parker on Talk Sport saying he is fighting Joe Joyce next, that will be a really decent gauge of where Joyce is, might be quite a boring fight though?
When Joyce was sparred Fury @ Bigbear , fury cut it short & moved gyms saying the thin air @ Bigbear did not help him...GGG seemed to thrive ...Nik Gnashers said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
Nik Gnashers said:
Khan was saved from embarrassment by the ref, another 10 seconds and he would have been flat on his back spark out, so all this talk of 'he took the big shots well' is a bit poor.
He was wobbled more than once.
He was just talking a good fight, and real boxing people knew he was bull sitting, saying he was going to Ko Brook ... Khan never was a KO fighter, and his pitty pats were never going to stop Kell coming forward. Brook never had a mark on him at the end, Khan looked battered.
The only way for Khan to have won, would be to stay at range and pick Brook off with a speedy jab, and keep doing it for 12 rounds to get a points win.
I'm pleased that we have 'real boxing people' like yourself to give such great analysis.He was wobbled more than once.
He was just talking a good fight, and real boxing people knew he was bull sitting, saying he was going to Ko Brook ... Khan never was a KO fighter, and his pitty pats were never going to stop Kell coming forward. Brook never had a mark on him at the end, Khan looked battered.
The only way for Khan to have won, would be to stay at range and pick Brook off with a speedy jab, and keep doing it for 12 rounds to get a points win.
.I have never boxed professionally, but I did box for years, and studied Wing Chun too, I know what it's like to get punched, kicked, elbowed, knee'd and I know how to avoid them too, so I am talking from personal experience.
I looked up your record on boxrec, fair play, retired professional boxer, but I'll reply to your comment with the same childish attitude you replied to mine : not exactly much to shout about your 'career' was it son, 9 fights 7 wins 2 losses against nobodies.
Can't wait for the next exciting instalment of top level pro lee jones jnr educating the masses.
Nik Gnashers said:
If you disagree with my opinion, then say why, and lets have a discussion instead of just posting sarcasm and trying to be a clever .
I have never boxed professionally, but I did box for years, and studied Wing Chun too, I know what it's like to get punched, kicked, elbowed, knee'd and I know how to avoid them too, so I am talking from personal experience.
I looked up your record on boxrec, fair play, retired professional boxer, but I'll reply to your comment with the same childish attitude you replied to mine : not exactly much to shout about your 'career' was it son, 9 fights 7 wins 2 losses against nobodies.
Can't wait for the next exciting instalment of top level pro lee jones jnr educating the masses.
Nah, I’ve already made the mistake of engaging with people saying foolish things on this thread. I avoid that as much as possible but occasionally I slip..I have never boxed professionally, but I did box for years, and studied Wing Chun too, I know what it's like to get punched, kicked, elbowed, knee'd and I know how to avoid them too, so I am talking from personal experience.
I looked up your record on boxrec, fair play, retired professional boxer, but I'll reply to your comment with the same childish attitude you replied to mine : not exactly much to shout about your 'career' was it son, 9 fights 7 wins 2 losses against nobodies.
Can't wait for the next exciting instalment of top level pro lee jones jnr educating the masses.
There are a few fights missing from my boxrec actually, a couple of 12 rounders at the end and a 6 rounder from somewhere near the beginning, but as you say I was just another boxer. I have some good pictures, a few nice looking belts and a house to show for it though so not all bad, oh and an advance to write a book because mine is an interesting story.
Wing Chun eh. Ok.
Lee Jones Jnr said:
Sterillium said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
Wing Chun.
I love a bit of pyjama dancing.I drifted through quite a few of them before I found KM, which although ultra brutal, is phenomenally effective and fun.
I've had some interesting sparring with a fair few of the above, plus boxing, very interesting.
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