GRRC 2021 Membership

[BrundanBianchi]

ch37 said:

Ballsy.

78MM clashes with another commitment for me and I already have an MM weekend ticket, I guess my chances of getting a refund are slim...

Call the office, I reckon they’ve factored fixture clash refunds into the plan.

[No ideas for a name]

Okay, not sure if I am just having a 'thick' day...

Just gone on to the Goodwood site to renew for GRRC and I see a strange option.
Under GRRC Renewal we have several options;

GRRC Full Membership
Select

Adult Renewal @ £235
Young Person Renewal
Family Renewal
GSA Adult Renewal @ £176.25
GSA Family Renewal


Have I missed something? What is the GSA Renewal?

[BrundanBianchi]

No ideas for a name said:

Okay, not sure if I am just having a 'thick' day...

Just gone on to the Goodwood site to renew for GRRC and I see a strange option.
Under GRRC Renewal we have several options;

GRRC Full Membership
Select

Adult Renewal @ £235
Young Person Renewal
Family Renewal
GSA Adult Renewal @ £176.25
GSA Family Renewal


Have I missed something? What is the GSA Renewal?

Goodwood supporters association membership.

Are the Goodwood Supporters' Association and the Goodwood Road Racing Club connected?

The short answer is no. The Goodwood Road Racing Club (GRRC) is a group of people within a Club who receive annual benefits in return for paying an ongoing subscription. The Goodwood Supporters' Association (GSA) is a group of people who come together to support signficant challenges faced by the Goodwood Estate at specific moments in time. Twenty-five years ago, the challenge was to re-open the Circuit, whereas the challenge today is to support the group through the financial consequences of the coronavirus pandemic. The GRRC and GSA are therefore two separate and unconnected entities, with the GRRC being an annual subscription in exchange for ongoing seasonal benefits, and the 'new' GSA being a one-off contribution for long-lasting one-off benefits in return for supporting in the current circumstances. The GSA and GRRC benefits are unconnected, and designed for different purposes.

Edited by BrundanBianchi on Wednesday 16th December 12:25

[No ideas for a name]

BrundanBianchi said:

Goodwood supporters association membership.

............. the 'new' GSA being a one-off contribution for long-lasting one-off benefits in return for supporting in the current circumstances.

Sorry, I should have been clearer.
As a GRRC member, I was 'given' GSA membership in lieu of this years cancelled programme of events (as all members were).
As you quote above from the website, this year's GSA resurection was supposed to be a one-off.

So, I am just not getting where members can apparently renew Adult Membership OR GSA Membership.

Edited by No ideas for a name on Wednesday 16th December 13:21

[Ian Wegg]

Members of the original GSA have always had a discount on GRRC membership so I assume that is what it is referring to, i.e. adult membership with a 25% discount. I've never noticed it shown on the renewal site before though.

[ecsrobin]

Ian Wegg said:

Members of the original GSA have always had a discount on GRRC membership so I assume that is what it is referring to, i.e. adult membership with a 25% discount. I've never noticed it shown on the renewal site before though.

That’s what I took it as the original GSA members a bit confusing now it’s reintroduced.

[No ideas for a name]

ecsrobin said:

That’s what I took it as the original GSA members a bit confusing now it’s reintroduced.

Renewal documents said £235 so I guess that is the one to go for.
As far as I can remember, the GSA bit has never been on the renewal page before (unless presumably you were in the original GSA, in which case you probably wouldn't see the ordinary GRRC renewal tab). No problem at all with those people getting a discount... Without their efforts the circuit wouldn't have reopened.

Just a little confusing to offer it on an 'ordinary' member's renewal page.
I did wonder if it was a special discount for those who are now in the 'new' GSA. My wondering was quite short - and I realised that wasn't going to happen.

I did email the GRRC office, but haven't had a reply yet.

Looks like we have an upper and lower GSA! In fact original GSA, new silver, and new Gold GSA. Anyone for platinum GSA if the events don't get off the ground next year?

[mk1coopers]

Could be interesting next year, if you paid for GSA this year, then got GRRC membership this year, would you get a discounted renewal over people who got the GSA automatically as they were already GRRC

I'm just looking forward to being able to do 'something' at Goodwood next year, as members no doubt we will get the first options on anything that is happening (hopefully all of it will), I've already written off the possibility of foreign travel next year and booked holidays in the UK so I will have the potential of having the odd day off that I would normally not have had available to me for some Goodwood activities

[9.3]

As there’s an intangible pecking order at Goodwood, does the GSA slot in above or below GRRC ??
This is important to those who feel that these things are important.

[No ideas for a name]

9.3 said:

As there’s an intangible pecking order at Goodwood, does the GSA slot in above or below GRRC ??
This is important to those who feel that these things are important.

It all went wrong when Fellows were named Fellows rather than Associates.

[OtherBusiness]

Never really understood that one!

[ch37]

9.3 said:

As there’s an intangible pecking order at Goodwood, does the GSA slot in above or below GRRC ??
This is important to those who feel that these things are important.

I imagine it could be very important next year if there are (and it seems likely) restrictions on capacity at the big events, even more so considering they've already sold a whole heap of tickets for them. It doesn't seem like too many people exercised the option of asking for a 78MM refund.

I foresee a not too distant future where Fellows are asked nicely to roll over their MM ticket yet another year.

[No ideas for a name]

ch37 said:

I imagine it could be very important next year if there are (and it seems likely) restrictions on capacity at the big events, even more so considering they've already sold a whole heap of tickets for them. It doesn't seem like too many people exercised the option of asking for a 78MM refund.

I foresee a not too distant future where Fellows are asked nicely to roll over their MM ticket yet another year.

There are tickets available for 78MM. Not on sale yet, but will be shortly.
Open to Members first, then Fellows, then general public if there are any left by then.
I don't see any suggestion that Members would effectively take tickets away from Fellows - it appears that if you have a ticket already, then that is safe.
Only issue may be with things being pushed back causing another delay in the 78MM for everyone.

[BrundanBianchi]

ch37 said:

I foresee a not too distant future where Fellows are asked nicely to roll over their MM ticket yet another year.

That won’t happen. If you’ve bought tickets, your going ( unless your plans change) and then there is a ticket exchange mechanism in place. No one knows what will be happening in May, we may all be disappointed again, we may not. Let’s just keep ‘em peeled for now.

[BrundanBianchi]

No ideas for a name said:

There are tickets available for 78MM. Not on sale yet, but will be shortly.
Open to Members first, then Fellows, then general public if there are any left by then.
I don't see any suggestion that Members would effectively take tickets away from Fellows - it appears that if you have a ticket already, then that is safe.
Only issue may be with things being pushed back causing another delay in the 78MM for everyone.

If it gets to ‘full house’ and there’s another pushback, the same rules will apply. All tickets sold will be honoured, if anyone wants a refund, they’ll get it, and the places vacated ( if the circumstances of the customers change and they want to exchange) will be redistributed. These are unprecedented times, everyone is learning, and at the end of the day, Goodwood is run by humans. What this situation will do though, is sort out the genuine motorsport fans, from the ticket scalpers. The former are more likely to ‘go with the flow’, the latter won’t.

Edited by BrundanBianchi on Friday 18th December 18:22

[Ed Moses]

BrundanBianchi said:

No ideas for a name said:

There are tickets available for 78MM. Not on sale yet, but will be shortly.
Open to Members first, then Fellows, then general public if there are any left by then.
I don't see any suggestion that Members would effectively take tickets away from Fellows - it appears that if you have a ticket already, then that is safe.
Only issue may be with things being pushed back causing another delay in the 78MM for everyone.

If it gets to ‘full house’ and there’s another pushback, the same rules will apply. All tickets sold will be honoured, if anyone wants a refund, they’ll get it, and the places vacated ( if the circumstances of the customers change and they want to exchange) will be redistributed. These are unprecedented times, everyone is learning, and at the end of the day, Goodwood is run by humans. What this situation will do though, is sort out the genuine motorsport fans, from the ticket scalpers. The former are more likely to ‘go with the flow’, the latter won’t.

Agreed and not just at Goodwood

Edited by BrundanBianchi on Friday 18th December 18:22

[Ian Wegg]

No ideas for a name said:

There are tickets available for 78MM. Not on sale yet, but will be shortly.
Open to Members first, then Fellows, then general public if there are any left by then.

The recent email from Goodwood was a little ambiguous but essentially it gave the date on which tickets for all next year's events go on sale. MM tickets are only ever sold to the GRRC and Fellowship members.

[BrundanBianchi]

Ian Wegg said:

The recent email from Goodwood was a little ambiguous but essentially it gave the date on which tickets for all next year's events go on sale. MM tickets are only ever sold to the GRRC and Fellowship members.

Yes, there was a big ‘hoo-ha’ early on about the ‘member’ part of ‘members meeting’. It stemmed from a misunderstanding about the term ‘member’. It was originally intended as a revival of the R.A.C. member, racing meetings of the 1960s, open to all enthusiasts, as spectators. But multiple rattles were thrown out of multiple prams, and Goodwood bowed to pressure to make it primarily Goodwood member oriented. Simple economics prevailed over the original aim. As far as I’m concerned, that’s a bad move, as the MM is a great opportunity to bring in people who fall between the FOS and Revival, in terms of what ‘floats their boat’.

[No ideas for a name]

BrundanBianchi said:

Yes, there was a big ‘hoo-ha’ early on about the ‘member’ part of ‘members meeting’. It stemmed from a misunderstanding about the term ‘member’. It was originally intended as a revival of the R.A.C. member, racing meetings of the 1960s, open to all enthusiasts, as spectators. But multiple rattles were thrown out of multiple prams, and Goodwood bowed to pressure to make it primarily Goodwood member oriented. Simple economics prevailed over the original aim. As far as I’m concerned, that’s a bad move, as the MM is a great opportunity to bring in people who fall between the FOS and Revival, in terms of what ‘floats their boat’.

It probably works reasonably well at the moment... members of the public are allowed to attend, it is just that they need to get their tickets bought by a Member or presumably a Fellow. I suppose there is an issue if you are general public that fancies coming along, but don't have friends that are Members.

However, thinking a bit more, I suppose that if a member of the public wants to go and doesn't know anyone who can get tickets - they can join the fellowship and they are then allowed to buy directly. £30 isn't a big on cost if you really want to go.

In theory, the buying window opening for Members first does give them 'first dibs' on purchases - however, in reality not everyone has the spare cash around Xmas (or in fact any time) to buy up MM and FoS and Revival tickets.

[DeejRC]

I liked the post about the pecking order of Goodwood memberships, it made me smile anyway.

Let’s be really honest, it doesn’t matter whether you are GRRC, GSA - Patron or pleb level - we all know the important bit...



...they are all higher than golf club membership!