FOS 2021

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Big Nanas

1,495 posts

86 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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9.3 said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
It doesn’t really. Wimbledon and Wembley are controlled seated crowds.
When they’re seated yes - but before they’re seated it’s a bunfest from my personal experience.
Surely stadiums are much easier to set up crowd control, rather than the free-for-all that is FoS.

delta0

2,367 posts

108 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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F20CN16 said:
Yup. Plus they are both hosting elite sport. FoS is not that.
It’s something between entertainment and a motorsports event which would likely go ahead. These pilot events are usually completely unrestricted like the music ones we saw.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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delta0 said:
F20CN16 said:
Yup. Plus they are both hosting elite sport. FoS is not that.
It’s something between entertainment and a motorsports event which would likely go ahead. These pilot events are usually completely unrestricted like the music ones we saw.
Yeah actually, having seen the info above that someone posted, I see now that the pilot events could be all sorts of things. So fingers crossed biggrin

RacerMike

4,269 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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F20CN16 said:
delta0 said:
F20CN16 said:
Yup. Plus they are both hosting elite sport. FoS is not that.
It’s something between entertainment and a motorsports event which would likely go ahead. These pilot events are usually completely unrestricted like the music ones we saw.
Yeah actually, having seen the info above that someone posted, I see now that the pilot events could be all sorts of things. So fingers crossed biggrin
To me at least (someone who generally sees the positive in things), the fact they haven't immediately cancelled would suggest to me they've already had positive discussions with the Govt and the way their note this morning is worded, sounds more like they're organising the details around what will be required from attendees.

ecsrobin

17,388 posts

167 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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I really want the event to go ahead but if its not in its usual format I don’t know if I’d bother, I want to jump in manufacturers cars try them out for size and have a good hands on experience, I somehow think with no lifting of restrictions and Goodwood not wanting to be seen as source of covid they’ll stop manufacturers from letting us touch (if all that makes sense).

RacerMike

4,269 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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ecsrobin said:
I really want the event to go ahead but if its not in its usual format I don’t know if I’d bother, I want to jump in manufacturers cars try them out for size and have a good hands on experience, I somehow think with no lifting of restrictions and Goodwood not wanting to be seen as source of covid they’ll stop manufacturers from letting us touch (if all that makes sense).
Generally these trial events are being run 'like normal' to study how/if it spreads. So if it goes ahead, expect it to be as normal, but with the need to probably take an LFT yourself at home before hand within 48hrs of travel, and a PCR after the event.

MarkJames1

26 posts

37 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Do you have to pay for pcr tests?

Bobtherallyfan

1,283 posts

80 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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MarkJames1 said:
Do you have to pay for pcr tests?
According to the Ascot system no…they provide them for free.

m4tti

5,443 posts

157 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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ecsrobin said:
I really want the event to go ahead but if its not in its usual format I don’t know if I’d bother, I want to jump in manufacturers cars try them out for size and have a good hands on experience, I somehow think with no lifting of restrictions and Goodwood not wanting to be seen as source of covid they’ll stop manufacturers from letting us touch (if all that makes sense).
Be surprised if that happens. Landrover wanted £30 to clean the free courtesy car recently offered during a service.

Maybe there’ll be like a pit crew of cleaners.

RacerMike

4,269 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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m4tti said:
ecsrobin said:
I really want the event to go ahead but if its not in its usual format I don’t know if I’d bother, I want to jump in manufacturers cars try them out for size and have a good hands on experience, I somehow think with no lifting of restrictions and Goodwood not wanting to be seen as source of covid they’ll stop manufacturers from letting us touch (if all that makes sense).
Be surprised if that happens. Landrover wanted £30 to clean the free courtesy car recently offered during a service.

Maybe there’ll be like a pit crew of cleaners.
As above, pilot events are done without the normal covid regs. That's the whole point of them, as it allows them to understand potential spreading during large scale events.

Maximus_Meridius101

1,222 posts

39 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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I’m taking an optimistic view on it, however it’s not all about the FOS attendees. If the manufacturers see it as a potential P.R. disaster, and the teams and drivers likewise decide they don’t want to be associated with a risky event, the decision is made for Goodwood. I’ll be interested to see how this pans out. The other consideration is how many people who have tickets, decide they don’t want to risk it, or can’t be bothered with the testing that will almost certainly be a prerequisite of attendance. Again, that could decide it for Goodwood. This really is uncharted territory, I genuinely have no idea what’s about to go down.

ch37

10,642 posts

223 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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I'm not sure why it would be risky if ran as a test event with testing in place. Across the various enclosed/indoor test events there were only 15 confirmed cases out of 58,000 people, most of those in significantly riskier environments than FoS.

If, as everyone suggests, being outdoors is significantly safer, we really shouldn't expect to see many cases even with the delta variant being more easily transmissible.

parkrun (for example) is very tightly packed with heavy breathing etc and the science suggests that the risks are incredibly minimal, and that's technically had approval to go ahead for quite some time now.

Ed Moses

619 posts

122 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Motorsport UK have updated their COVID guidance: https://www.motorsportuk.org/news/motorsport-uk-re...

How do you do this bit at FOS? - Where spectators are permitted by venues they must be segregated from the ‘sporting bubble’.

ecsrobin

17,388 posts

167 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Ed Moses said:
Motorsport UK have updated their COVID guidance: https://www.motorsportuk.org/news/motorsport-uk-re...

How do you do this bit at FOS? - Where spectators are permitted by venues they must be segregated from the ‘sporting bubble’.
No entry to the paddocks?

RacerMike

4,269 posts

213 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Ed Moses said:
Motorsport UK have updated their COVID guidance: https://www.motorsportuk.org/news/motorsport-uk-re...

How do you do this bit at FOS? - Where spectators are permitted by venues they must be segregated from the ‘sporting bubble’.
As per their statement today, they're looking at running as a pilot event and not under current covid restrictions. If approved that would mean that the general rules for spectators under the current Stage 3 wouldn't apply. It would be run as it would have if 21st June had gone ahead.

Ed Moses

619 posts

122 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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ecsrobin said:
No entry to the paddocks?
As a marshal we have had to enforce this at events - it is one of the reasons the Motor Circuit is closed to spectators when there is a licensed sprint or autosolo on. I have not idea how this word work at FoS for the paddocks or the meet and greet activity under these rules. I guess you could keep the competitive cars and drives separate from the Demo side - but it would be a very different event.

Maximus_Meridius101

1,222 posts

39 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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With pretty much all other test events, there’s a financial motive for the performers to do it, that’s pretty much completely the opposite to Goodwood. Goodwood is great marketing tool, but by no means a necessity. If there was an outbreak / hotspot and it was attributed to attendance at Goodwood, I can see the manufacturers not being happy with their association. I’m sure the press would have an absolute field day too. Would the teams consider it far too high a risk? I think that’s what’s ultimately going to decide the fate of the event. Judging by the GRRC breakfast club meeting at the circuit the other week, there’s no lack of appetite from the punters, can the same be said for the protagonists? That’s what we’ll have to wait to see.

Bobtherallyfan

1,283 posts

80 months

Tuesday 15th June 2021
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Spent the weekend happily wandering around the paddocks at the Thruxton Historics event. For a few fleeting hours the world seemed normal again…..

m4tti

5,443 posts

157 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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MarkJames1

26 posts

37 months

Wednesday 16th June 2021
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Are test events at full capacity? Noticed ascot has 12,000 compared to 60,000 capacity