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Has anyone added a heart monitor? Any good?
My biggest gripe with strava which they still haven't fixed. Is that I can't click on a stage and view all my times. Say I get a 2nd best time for a stage - if like to be able to click in that and see all the other times I've done the stage in.
My biggest gripe with strava which they still haven't fixed. Is that I can't click on a stage and view all my times. Say I get a 2nd best time for a stage - if like to be able to click in that and see all the other times I've done the stage in.
I am really annoyed with Strava at the moment, two reasons mainly ( and this does not include their new layout which is utter utter s
te ).
1) Still, it is hiding most segments of interest to me and segments that were never hidden before. I have just got in from a ride and had to go through the usual process of clicking unhide on 48 segments. Because there are hidden, I get no info on personal records or previous times, so the site is basically withholding valuable information that I would like to know about. I have to continually unhide segments and it never seems to remember what I have unhidden - I just don't understand why it does it.
2) The data is iffy. Get this, went out and did a ride last week. My Garmin says I did it in "x" mph. When I upload, as always, this is decreased to "y" mph on the site. However, when looking up the exact same ride on the phone app (just looking at the already existing data) it comes up as "z" mph ??? How can this be possible? For the exact same ride, on the website it shows an average speed and an elevation figure, which then differs when you look up the same ride on the app.
I think I am going to have a look at Garmin Connect.
te ).1) Still, it is hiding most segments of interest to me and segments that were never hidden before. I have just got in from a ride and had to go through the usual process of clicking unhide on 48 segments. Because there are hidden, I get no info on personal records or previous times, so the site is basically withholding valuable information that I would like to know about. I have to continually unhide segments and it never seems to remember what I have unhidden - I just don't understand why it does it.
2) The data is iffy. Get this, went out and did a ride last week. My Garmin says I did it in "x" mph. When I upload, as always, this is decreased to "y" mph on the site. However, when looking up the exact same ride on the phone app (just looking at the already existing data) it comes up as "z" mph ??? How can this be possible? For the exact same ride, on the website it shows an average speed and an elevation figure, which then differs when you look up the same ride on the app.
I think I am going to have a look at Garmin Connect.
^^ For point 1, they created "favorite segments" for that exact reason. So, of those 48 hidden segments, click "favourite" for those you want to see, and it will always show you those, rather than hide them, when you upload a ride.
For point 2 - is it a difference of total average speed including stopping, vs moving average speed?
For point 2 - is it a difference of total average speed including stopping, vs moving average speed?
torqueofthedevil said:
Has anyone added a heart monitor? Any good?
My biggest gripe with strava which they still haven't fixed. Is that I can't click on a stage and view all my times. Say I get a 2nd best time for a stage - if like to be able to click in that and see all the other times I've done the stage in.
Go into the segment, there's a drop down menu where you can select those following, male, female, your results etc. The your results gives you a list of your own attempts and the dates for that segmentMy biggest gripe with strava which they still haven't fixed. Is that I can't click on a stage and view all my times. Say I get a 2nd best time for a stage - if like to be able to click in that and see all the other times I've done the stage in.
TonyHetherington said:
^^ For point 1, they created "favorite segments" for that exact reason. So, of those 48 hidden segments, click "favourite" for those you want to see, and it will always show you those, rather than hide them, when you upload a ride.
For point 2 - is it a difference of total average speed including stopping, vs moving average speed?
I don't want to star or favourite loads of segments though, I just want to see all of them and be bale to pick and choose what I analyse. Many of the hidden ones are long 4 - 10 mile segments that I am particularly interested in.For point 2 - is it a difference of total average speed including stopping, vs moving average speed?
As for point 2, no, it is just for example's sake, Garmin average = 18mph, Strava Upload will always dock that to 17.9 maybe 17.8mph, and on the app this then becomes 17.7mph.
PGM said:
torqueofthedevil said:
Has anyone added a heart monitor? Any good?
My biggest gripe with strava which they still haven't fixed. Is that I can't click on a stage and view all my times. Say I get a 2nd best time for a stage - if like to be able to click in that and see all the other times I've done the stage in.
Go into the segment, there's a drop down menu where you can select those following, male, female, your results etc. The your results gives you a list of your own attempts and the dates for that segmentMy biggest gripe with strava which they still haven't fixed. Is that I can't click on a stage and view all my times. Say I get a 2nd best time for a stage - if like to be able to click in that and see all the other times I've done the stage in.
Dizeee said:
I don't want to star or favourite loads of segments though, I just want to see all of them and be bale to pick and choose what I analyse. Many of the hidden ones are long 4 - 10 mile segments that I am particularly interested in.
As for point 2, no, it is just for example's sake, Garmin average = 18mph, Strava Upload will always dock that to 17.9 maybe 17.8mph, and on the app this then becomes 17.7mph.
Is your garmin set to autostop?As for point 2, no, it is just for example's sake, Garmin average = 18mph, Strava Upload will always dock that to 17.9 maybe 17.8mph, and on the app this then becomes 17.7mph.
The difference will almost certainly be that your garmin is recording data differently. The numbers that strava takes are generally VERY accurate with regards to average speed.
Also, who gives a f
k about 0.1 average speed? torqueofthedevil said:
Has anyone added a heart monitor? Any good?
My biggest gripe with strava which they still haven't fixed. Is that I can't click on a stage and view all my times. Say I get a 2nd best time for a stage - if like to be able to click in that and see all the other times I've done the stage in.
Ive got a HR monitor, you can pretty quickly learn your threshold that you start killing yourself.. My biggest gripe with strava which they still haven't fixed. Is that I can't click on a stage and view all my times. Say I get a 2nd best time for a stage - if like to be able to click in that and see all the other times I've done the stage in.
anything over 170 and i will burn out asap, if i stay under that its fine.
Naive question that has probably been covered elsewhere, sorry if that's the case, but
what stops people doing a road segment in their car, thereby killing everyone else's PBs?
p.s., life's too short for me to do this, but I was wondering if other's with time on their hands might be tempted?
what stops people doing a road segment in their car, thereby killing everyone else's PBs?
p.s., life's too short for me to do this, but I was wondering if other's with time on their hands might be tempted?
I was knocked off my bike by a van 6 weeks ago. I went to the hospital in an ambulance and Hampshire Constabulary kindly delivered the bike home. A couple of weeks later I uploaded the data from my Garmin, and within minutes my ride had been flagged as suspicious. The site took me to the 'crop my ride' option and as soon as I'd cut all of the "motor assisted" segments off, it happily put my data into the system.
I think that there are definitely ways to 'cheat the system' but you'd have to be careful not to absolutely smash long standing times, by too much. It's also VERY suspicious when a quick rider posts times without heart rate or cadence data. If I were to cheat, I'd do it on a turbo trainer strapped down in a transit van, so that the cadence and HRM data was available
Local to me there are some incredible times for off road segments, but I think many of them are due to limitations with the GPS data rather than outright 'cheating'. It still makes it impossible to get a genuine KOM on a segment though.
Personally I don't think it's worth the effort to 'cheat' my way to a KOM. Much better to spend the time riding to try to improve your genuine attempts, or console yourself with the knowledge that most of your local segments have been raced on by much younger athletes, and your time, whilst not top ten, is "not bad for and old git on a cheap bike"
I think that there are definitely ways to 'cheat the system' but you'd have to be careful not to absolutely smash long standing times, by too much. It's also VERY suspicious when a quick rider posts times without heart rate or cadence data. If I were to cheat, I'd do it on a turbo trainer strapped down in a transit van, so that the cadence and HRM data was available
Local to me there are some incredible times for off road segments, but I think many of them are due to limitations with the GPS data rather than outright 'cheating'. It still makes it impossible to get a genuine KOM on a segment though.
Personally I don't think it's worth the effort to 'cheat' my way to a KOM. Much better to spend the time riding to try to improve your genuine attempts, or console yourself with the knowledge that most of your local segments have been raced on by much younger athletes, and your time, whilst not top ten, is "not bad for and old git on a cheap bike"
yellowjack said:
"not bad for and old git on a cheap bike"
That's exactly my approach I'm happy to get in the top 50% on most road segments, and only get near the top 20% on the ones where I've really bust a gut. Off-road it's a bit easier to get near the top 10, but I've only got a couple of them, and then only where the total number of attempts is pretty low already (<100).
It's meant to be fun and I find it so. If it ever stops being fun, I delete the app. Easy.
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