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Usget

5,426 posts

212 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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gl20 said:
One thing I was going to ask on here. Sometimes when going up a small incline I notice my speed drops right off. My cadence / gear is such that I'd expect to be doing 12-14 mph but Zwift says 5 mph. Where am I going wrong? I use a Kickr.
Ignore the speed you think you should be doing, Zwift speed is all based on w/kg. So if your trainer is only providing enough resistance that you can do 200w and you're doing the steep section up to the radio tower you'll be doing walking pace, whatever your wheel speed.

You can turn up "trainer difficulty" in settings to combat this. However don't whack it up too far or you'll run out of legs/gears!

gl20

1,123 posts

150 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Usget said:
gl20 said:
One thing I was going to ask on here. Sometimes when going up a small incline I notice my speed drops right off. My cadence / gear is such that I'd expect to be doing 12-14 mph but Zwift says 5 mph. Where am I going wrong? I use a Kickr.
Ignore the speed you think you should be doing, Zwift speed is all based on w/kg. So if your trainer is only providing enough resistance that you can do 200w and you're doing the steep section up to the radio tower you'll be doing walking pace, whatever your wheel speed.

You can turn up "trainer difficulty" in settings to combat this. However don't whack it up too far or you'll run out of legs/gears!
Great. Much appreciated. Will take a look and have a play with that. No doubt reverting to existing setting if it all gets too much!

mcelliott

8,712 posts

182 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Zwift makes everyone awesome wink

simonF10

68 posts

203 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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I have switched over to zwift from trainerroad and haven’t looked back.

Jumping into a race or on to a fast group ride for me is much more interesting than following a trainerroad workout.

Racing is great fun even if there are people who cheat. It’s a always a great workout. Maybe we should start a PH team.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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I zwift a bit

I rode stage 2 of the tour of zwift earlier this evening in fact

Looking forward to the new London roads when the course switches

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 8th January 21:19

nammynake

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2,590 posts

174 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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I’m still using it and after a couple of weeks off over Christmas I’ll be getting stuck in with racing soon - I like the Tuesday and Thursday ZTR series.

simonF10

68 posts

203 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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I like doing the KISS and SZR races. US Sunday spin group ride on a Sunday afternoon is always good fun. Turns into a smash fest for the last few laps

upsidedownmark

2,120 posts

136 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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paulmon said:
Ceeejay said:
Yep.... Tacx trainer is pretty substantial though so standing up isn't too much of a problem for a while...

One stupid issue I find with Zwift, that is when you are using ERG mode.

ERG mode allows the software to control the resistance on the trainer, so that whatever Cadance/gear you are in you are outputting a certain Power. Great for interval training. Racks the resistance up every now and then without you having to touch anything. However if you reduce your cadence, it obviously starts adding resistance to keep same power output. As you get really slow, the Trainer obviously runs out of resistance it can apply at those slow revs, and the software pops out of ERG mode.

So you've got to keep continually spinning through the session... no rests at all. Might be ok for pro's but for a fat lad not good.
I've stopped using ERG mode with Zwift now for this reason. Works fine in TR.
Best will in the world, if you can't keep pedalling through the workout, then you probably need to set your FTP to something more appropriate. Taking rests to get through is kinda defeating the object. That said, it deliberately cancels ERG mode if you can't keep to the interval, precisely so you can spin easy, get yourself together and will resume at the next interval.

Alternatively, if you want to stop, pause the workout. MobileLink, or hit the up arrow then click pause.
Then start pedalling again and hit the resume button to get going.
Only difference with TR is it has an autopause/pedal to resume option.

Guess I'm quite shocked how much I do use Zwift. 1) Turbo is definitely a good way to get faster. 2) I also have TrainerRoad (currently). Workout/plan execution (and powermatch) are far better in TR, but the social/game aspect keeps bringing me back to zwift.

z4RRSchris

11,355 posts

180 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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so who is racing tonight? im thinking of the KISS europe race at 8pm, ill be in the B's

simonF10

68 posts

203 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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z4RRSchris said:
so who is racing tonight? im thinking of the KISS europe race at 8pm, ill be in the B's
Should be there. Start in the A group but then I normally get caught by the B’s laugh

z4RRSchris

11,355 posts

180 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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whats your zwift name thingy?

simonF10

68 posts

203 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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#simon.l

What’s yours? I’ll keep an eye out.

Chicken Chaser

7,864 posts

225 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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I found I did nearly 800 virtual miles on Zwift last year, so its definitely motivated me however, I do know of people who only use Zwift and hardly ever ride on the road.

It puts the fun into Turbo training so if it can do that, it achieves its goal. Its very motivating whether you're taking part in a group training session or a simulated race.

I've no doubt that there are people 'weight doping' but theyre only cheating themselves!

CAH706

1,975 posts

165 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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I quite fancy getting this now I have a spare bike to use on it.

What's a reasonable set up for occasional use that wouldn't break the bank?

smn159

12,788 posts

218 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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CAH706 said:
I quite fancy getting this now I have a spare bike to use on it.

What's a reasonable set up for occasional use that wouldn't break the bank?
Tacx Flow for <£200 and an iPhone (assuming you already have one) I would have thought?

Sk00p

3,961 posts

228 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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I'm using a Tacx Flow and it seems to work ok. Well my legs hurt again today after a lap of the Surrey Hills last night.

Dannbodge

2,168 posts

122 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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I did my first workout last night (Hill Attacks) and it makes such a difference to how quick the time goes compared to "just ride"
Leith hill looks quite difficult, so I'm looking forward to just riding that next week.

Chicken Chaser

7,864 posts

225 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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CAH706 said:
I quite fancy getting this now I have a spare bike to use on it.

What's a reasonable set up for occasional use that wouldn't break the bank?
If you havent got a smart trainer, you'll need a Ant+ stick and a USB Cable extender, plus a cadence and speed sensor (the likes available with a Garmin for instance) combined with a laptop or desktop to make it work.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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Dannbodge said:
I did my first workout last night (Hill Attacks) and it makes such a difference to how quick the time goes compared to "just ride"
Leith hill looks quite difficult, so I'm looking forward to just riding that next week.
Hill attacks is a nice stern one to start out on!

Dannbodge

2,168 posts

122 months

Wednesday 10th January 2018
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JPJPJP said:
Hill attacks is a nice stern one to start out on!
I do a lot of riding generally and have been on zwift a fair bit too so it wasn't too difficult,
It helps that my 1 min power is over 400w and the intervals on the workout were only 325w.