Discussion
Dizeee said:
Jimbo. said:
Jesus. How much bleating? If how you stack up against others matters that much, go racing.
Can't do weekends.Plus, we are all guilty of being competetive are we not?
Go on get competitive and pin a number on your butt
PGM said:
I did a ride with a mate of mine yesterday and his phone died after 25 miles of the 100 we did. I have uploaded the ride to Strava and it's automatically grouped mine with his. How do I manually tag him to the rest of the ride? They are separate activites.
Assumming you did it on a GPS (doubt a phone would last a 100 mile ride) you can just mail him the .fit file or whatever format your GPS uses. He then deletes his ride and manually uploads the file. Obviously his times will be identical to your times so I wouldn't do it if you were smashing out loads of top 10s but if your times were further down it won't make any difference to others and at least this keeps his ride history correct. duff said:
PGM said:
I did a ride with a mate of mine yesterday and his phone died after 25 miles of the 100 we did. I have uploaded the ride to Strava and it's automatically grouped mine with his. How do I manually tag him to the rest of the ride? They are separate activites.
Assumming you did it on a GPS (doubt a phone would last a 100 mile ride) you can just mail him the .fit file or whatever format your GPS uses. He then deletes his ride and manually uploads the file. Obviously his times will be identical to your times so I wouldn't do it if you were smashing out loads of top 10s but if your times were further down it won't make any difference to others and at least this keeps his ride history correct. Yes, mine is a Bryton GPS device, my friend had iphone which ran out of juice after 25 miles as he started with low battery.
brianthemagical said:
Week night crits, TT's-no one can doctor the time sheet or cry about dodgy Strava data.
What does it matter if there's a faster time? You know you're the fastest person to cycle that stretch of road, while using Strava, assuming yours and everyone else's data is accurate.
I have done some midweek TT's, they are quite fun.What does it matter if there's a faster time? You know you're the fastest person to cycle that stretch of road, while using Strava, assuming yours and everyone else's data is accurate.
Strava is all well and good but I have ridden with some guys before who are lightening fast, proper road racers, and half of them don't even use a computer let alone Strava, so even if your KOM you won't be the fastest person ever to have ridden that stretch.
Dizeee said:
That changes the game entirely.
http://www.scarletfire.co.uk/2013/06/how-to-tell-i...
Hello all. I signed up to Strava last night. I've no GPS as of yet, so I've manually uploaded all of my ride data from this year, and the last two rides in Sept/Oct last year. I've been exploring the Strava site, looking for segments/rides I can 'practice' on while I ponder getting a GPS. I've also joined the PistonHeads club on Strava in anticipation of getting "tech'd up".
One question I have. I can see how to 'flag' a whole ride. Can you 'flag' just a segment? The reason I ask is this... http://app.strava.com/segments/3514746 ...which comes up as a Cat 4 climb with a 17.8% gradient and 518ft of elevation, yet it's a virtually pan-flat road through a business park parallel to the M3!!!
Googlemaps streetview here... http://goo.gl/maps/q3rQq ...which shows no sign of the claimed 518ft elevation difference. Only one rider on the leaderboard so I'm guessing he's the person who called it "M3 Climb"
I don't want to get into a b
h fight as soon as I join Strava, but it's plain ridiculous to suggest that this is anywhere near a Cat4.
Especially since this (real) hill... http://app.strava.com/segments/674252 and http://goo.gl/maps/yq4CC ...only claims 4% and 290ft of elevation.
Is this kind of inaccuracy common on Strava? Am I going to regret signing up? Is getting a GPS pointless?
All these questions and more answered next time. (Same Bat time, same Bat channel
)
ETA: I suspect I can see a reason.....
There is a vertical spike in the middle of the elevation graph. At a guess he's recorded a return trip to/from work, but the weather has changed between arriving and leaving, causing a wild variation in the barometric pressure reading from his Edge500? There are other traces for the segment (same guy) which show 0% gradient, so I don't think he's deliberately fudged the figures, but has taken advantage of it to show a KOM on a Cat4 climb that doesn't exist.
One question I have. I can see how to 'flag' a whole ride. Can you 'flag' just a segment? The reason I ask is this... http://app.strava.com/segments/3514746 ...which comes up as a Cat 4 climb with a 17.8% gradient and 518ft of elevation, yet it's a virtually pan-flat road through a business park parallel to the M3!!!
Googlemaps streetview here... http://goo.gl/maps/q3rQq ...which shows no sign of the claimed 518ft elevation difference. Only one rider on the leaderboard so I'm guessing he's the person who called it "M3 Climb"
I don't want to get into a b
h fight as soon as I join Strava, but it's plain ridiculous to suggest that this is anywhere near a Cat4.Especially since this (real) hill... http://app.strava.com/segments/674252 and http://goo.gl/maps/yq4CC ...only claims 4% and 290ft of elevation.
Is this kind of inaccuracy common on Strava? Am I going to regret signing up? Is getting a GPS pointless?
All these questions and more answered next time. (Same Bat time, same Bat channel
)ETA: I suspect I can see a reason.....
There is a vertical spike in the middle of the elevation graph. At a guess he's recorded a return trip to/from work, but the weather has changed between arriving and leaving, causing a wild variation in the barometric pressure reading from his Edge500? There are other traces for the segment (same guy) which show 0% gradient, so I don't think he's deliberately fudged the figures, but has taken advantage of it to show a KOM on a Cat4 climb that doesn't exist.
Edited by yellowjack on Sunday 23 June 21:55
BliarOut said:
You don't need a GPS, it runs on a lot of mobile phone platforms.
I'm aware of that, but unfortunately not on MY skanky (£10 - pay as you go) Nokia C1. I've also realised that although you CAN flag a segment, it would appear that you need to match it to an activity you have done yourself before the 'flag' option is allowed. Hey ho any excuse - Garmin shopping tomorrow, maybe?Silver940 said:
Dizeee said:
That changes the game entirely.
http://www.scarletfire.co.uk/2013/06/how-to-tell-i...
Websites to compare your rides to other people who may or may not have been riding their hardest over a particular segment.
Websites to doctor your rides to make them look better than they were.
Websites to check if other people have doctored their rides.
Just ride your bike and enjoy it. If you want to race people, enter a race.
el stovey said:
FFS
Websites to compare your rides to other people who may or may not have been riding their hardest over a particular segment.
Websites to doctor your rides to make them look better than they were.
Websites to check if other people have doctored their rides.
Just ride your bike and enjoy it. If you want to race people, enter a race.
Too true, Strava is turning cycling into the new Golf: too much talkin and not enough ridingWebsites to compare your rides to other people who may or may not have been riding their hardest over a particular segment.
Websites to doctor your rides to make them look better than they were.
Websites to check if other people have doctored their rides.
Just ride your bike and enjoy it. If you want to race people, enter a race.
I can see the benefits of Strava in regards to training, but its so fing dulll hearing people whinge on about segments, KOMS and other associated virtual crap. I used to assist in developing GPS tracking and as good as it was there were so many elements that made it susceptible to being inaccurate .
I find it bemusing that people actually try to use Strava like this. To me, it's an easy way to track how long my rides are and see how I'm progressing as I get fitter. Looking at other people's performances is good for setting targets, but I have no desire to beat anyone's time but my own.
The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
uncinqsix said:
I find it bemusing that people actually try to use Strava like this. To me, it's an easy way to track how long my rides are and see how I'm progressing as I get fitter. Looking at other people's performances is good for setting targets, but I have no desire to beat anyone's time but my own.
The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
I agree, much the same for me!The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
PGM said:
uncinqsix said:
I find it bemusing that people actually try to use Strava like this. To me, it's an easy way to track how long my rides are and see how I'm progressing as I get fitter. Looking at other people's performances is good for setting targets, but I have no desire to beat anyone's time but my own.
The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
I agree, much the same for me!The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
Second, bloody second place and I was held up by a car religiously sticking to the speed limit in a twenty zone
One day you will be mine you beauty
BliarOut said:
PGM said:
uncinqsix said:
I find it bemusing that people actually try to use Strava like this. To me, it's an easy way to track how long my rides are and see how I'm progressing as I get fitter. Looking at other people's performances is good for setting targets, but I have no desire to beat anyone's time but my own.
The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
I agree, much the same for me!The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
Second, bloody second place and I was held up by a car religiously sticking to the speed limit in a twenty zone
One day you will be mine you beauty
PGM said:
uncinqsix said:
I find it bemusing that people actually try to use Strava like this. To me, it's an easy way to track how long my rides are and see how I'm progressing as I get fitter. Looking at other people's performances is good for setting targets, but I have no desire to beat anyone's time but my own.
The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
I agree, much the same for me!The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
The worst for competitiveness was when I had exactly the same commute as one of my best mates. There was a pancake flat half mile segment that became a daily battle-ground with the KoM changing hands on a regular basis. Any day with a tailwind was a free for all and he still holds the record with an AVERAGE of 32.9mph.
Which reminds me, I really must head back to that part of town soon
Which reminds me, I really must head back to that part of town soon
CoolC said:
PGM said:
uncinqsix said:
I find it bemusing that people actually try to use Strava like this. To me, it's an easy way to track how long my rides are and see how I'm progressing as I get fitter. Looking at other people's performances is good for setting targets, but I have no desire to beat anyone's time but my own.
The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
I agree, much the same for me!The fact I tend to sit about 2/3rds of the way down any given leaderboard may have some bearing on that, and perhaps I would feel differently if I was not such a slowpoke...
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