UK bike sales plummet

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Billy_Rosewood

3,131 posts

166 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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nickfrog said:
Steve vRS said:
Pah.

If you want dirty bikes, go cyclocross racing!
Steve, your pic is presumably after a first clean?
Love it laugh

Steve vRS

4,876 posts

243 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Billy_Rosewood said:
nickfrog said:
Steve vRS said:
Pah.

If you want dirty bikes, go cyclocross racing!
Steve, your pic is presumably after a first clean?
Love it laugh
A better pic.



President Merkin

3,402 posts

21 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Steve vRS said:
A better pic.


Round here, we don't have to wait for winter. party


Billy_Rosewood

3,131 posts

166 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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All these picture make mine seem like a garage queen! Slightest bit of dirt and it needs a wash!

Not that I go out in anything near as extreme.

Terry Winks

1,239 posts

15 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Steve vRS said:
Pah.

If you want dirty bikes, go cyclocross racing!
Weirdly.... I'm good ta

Court_S

13,141 posts

179 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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bobbo89 said:
I love the way this thread keeps going on and off topic in random directions before coming back again.

Yeah, we had a crap summer, think we got one good week in July then just rain until September. Not even light rain either, just constant heavy downpours, was ste and proper sapped all my enthusiasm for riding!

I don't mind winter riding and actually really enjoy it in the more extremes. Frozen ground, zero wind and blue skies is as good as dry and dusty summer riding IMO. Snow adds another element too and is actually much grippier and more fun than you think. Then there's night riding!
I love those cold, dry days with frozen ground. Forecast is ok for us this week with temps dropping so I’m hoping that’ll firm the ground up a tad.

Court_S

13,141 posts

179 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Billy_Rosewood said:
All these picture make mine seem like a garage queen! Slightest bit of dirt and it needs a wash!

Not that I go out in anything near as extreme.
I’m not as good as keeping my bikes clean like I used to, I usually try and get a few rides between washes although it’s been so wet locally, it’s pretty much been cleaning after every ride.

Timetoleave

373 posts

188 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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Wow. Just wow. Cannondale pulls out of uk as PON shut CSG in Poole…

Chicken Chaser

7,883 posts

226 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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Timetoleave said:
Wow. Just wow. Cannondale pulls out of uk as PON shut CSG in Poole…
Has that just been announced? Nothing on the web about it yet.

scsracing

81 posts

97 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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Chicken Chaser said:
Has that just been announced? Nothing on the web about it yet.
https://cyclingindustry.news/pon-group-to-close-csg-uk-business-unit/

Chasing Potatoes

213 posts

7 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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Where does it say Cannondale are pulling out of the UK?

Timetoleave

373 posts

188 months

Monday 27th November 2023
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Just the UK importers / distributors have been closed down by the parent. Other than that nothings changed…you’ll have to buy your cannondale / submit warranties via PON HQ.
They must be looking at some grim results and predictions to do this. Desperate times for poor staff…

Edited by Timetoleave on Monday 27th November 18:38


Edited by Timetoleave on Monday 27th November 18:39


Edited by Timetoleave on Monday 27th November 18:40

President Merkin

3,402 posts

21 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Right but that isn't quite the same as Cannondale announcing their departure from the UK market.

I think you've extrapolated that while the llikelihood is they're restructuring into direct sales or remote distribution to the Uk market.

nickfrog

21,368 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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^ that's how I read it too. The old distributor/importer business model is being threatened by direct sellers so brands have to adapt and cut/lower at least one intermediary cost centre plus get better control in the process.

Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 28th November 09:25

Timetoleave

373 posts

188 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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I’m a bike retailer. When a brand announces it is closing down its uk importer / distributor we have a fair idea of how things will develop. The industry is confused. There are all kinds of options and combinations of retailing from Giant to Canyon. Nobody knows which is best ! Any bike business that wants to survive has to have a diversified stream of income.

emicen

8,606 posts

220 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Timetoleave said:
I’m a bike retailer. When a brand announces it is closing down its uk importer / distributor we have a fair idea of how things will develop. The industry is confused. There are all kinds of options and combinations of retailing from Giant to Canyon. Nobody knows which is best ! Any bike business that wants to survive has to have a diversified stream of income.
Could you elaborate?

Canyon I’ve come to understand is direct to consumer, what’s Giant’s deal?

President Merkin

3,402 posts

21 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Right. I think I can see your perspective then. Without putting words in your mouth, I'm guessing you feel the threat is your source of bikes from CSG is threatened if PON decide to transition CSG handled brands to DTC sales?

It is nevertheless different from Cannondale becoming unavailable in the UK. No one has said that have they?

nickfrog

21,368 posts

219 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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Yes I can't see Cannondale not being in the UK as a brand, but who knows?

I rarely see Cannondale mountain bikes anymore though.

boyse7en

6,791 posts

167 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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President Merkin said:
Right. I think I can see your perspective then. Without putting words in your mouth, I'm guessing you feel the threat is your source of bikes from CSG is threatened if PON decide to transition CSG handled brands to DTC sales?

It is nevertheless different from Cannondale becoming unavailable in the UK. No one has said that have they?
I doubt that Cannondale will go to a DTC model, as while it does mean that they keep a bigger margin, they also have to put in place a huge logistics system to handle delivery and returns, extra staff, a call centre to handle sales and technical queries, plus they will need to hold all the stock required for the UK , rather than having bike shops effectively provide it for them.

President Merkin

3,402 posts

21 months

Tuesday 28th November 2023
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No comparatively niche bike brand has a huge logistics system. Trust me on that, I work in logistics. Supermarkets have huge logistics systems, bike companies are minnows by comparison.

All of which is away from the query that Cannondale is withdrawing from the UK market. That's the part I'm interested in.